Who is A. Schwarzenegger Trying to Fool?!?!?! - Excellent Read

[GOPAgainstGW]

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Who is A. Schwarzenegger Trying to Fool?!?!?!

Arnold is a Democrat in a Republic suit because it fits his purpose.

He or Kennedy Family wifey Maria have not donated to the Republican Party in over 10 years.

Arnold is an admitted Social Liberal (Democrat). The political pundits say he is a Moderate Liberal Populist

Arnold is:

Pro-choice, supports current family planning programs

Pro-gay rights, prefers Domestic partnership instead of gay marriage.
(And must be within the established laws. He was against the San Fran Mayor deciding he was God and changing CA's law (in his mind) so SF could start passing out gay marriage license like candy)

For school head start and after school social programs

For CA's Family Leave Bill, which is the most social/liberal in the U.S.

Opposed to offshore oil drilling - Pro Environment

Against override of federal exemptions of new air pollution sources

Supports the right to bear arms-2nd Amendment but:
Supports Brady Bill; assault weapon ban; safety locks. GOP opposes
Supports closing the gun show loophole.

Supports Universal Healthcare for low-income families, especially children

Stated that Clinton impeachment was a waste of time and energy.


===EMAIL REPLY from HoustonAttorney===

Like McCain he spoke only to help himself and California issues, and to appear “in the middle” politically as he feels the Democrats have gotten plenty of CA – Hollywood help. Also like many at the RNC he owed Bush Senior a favor. Have to remember that Arnold campaigned for H.W. George Bush Senior in 1988.

This is what kills me, the whole Bush Family is at the RNC in this big love support fest, yet G.W. said he never consulted his father, H.W. and his Bush Mafia advisors including James Baker, on going into Iraq. I know for a fact that G.W. DID consult H.W. and Senior told him not to do it! H.W. has said several times privately around Houston, that he did not support, and George W should not have invaded Iraq, with his present environment (lack of International support and Israel issues). Three months ago H.W. accidentally said this at a medical fund raiser function, and a reporter at the Houston Chronicle heard it and printed his statement.

FYI, Bush Senior and his Texas Mafia boys are involved with both guns, because Clinton and his boys are involved. H.W. stills seriously hates Clinton and will do anything to beat him and the Democrats. Like I said before Bush has to get re-elected so he can do some Clinton style Presidential Pardons for some of the Enron Bush friends et. al., along with Tom DeLay and probably Bob Perry when they get criminally indicted and go to the pen. You know H.W. is still an extremely powerful man. In fact, I think he is the most powerful person in the Country, particularly when you add in his Texas Mafia boys.

Don’t worry, Kerry will carry California, despite the CA Defense contractor issue, and McCain will dump Bush and side with Kerry in the next 30 days. I spoke with McCain personally two weeks ago. His current posture is all just politics, nothing more. Would not be surprised, if John is just setting Bush up to get back at him for the 2000 con game W ran on him. Trust me, John has a real tenacity streak, and he has not forgot what W did to him!

Question:

Do you think the general public is ignorant enough to buy all this GOP bull? For any educated person, the GOP just makes the case for voting for Kerry-Edwards, but the majority of the Country is not well educated, with little or no net worth. What do you think?

– A.L.
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Beltway and Texas Republicans
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[sally343434]

1. I don't know

Arnold is just one of the "moderate masks" that the GOP trots out for these public appearances. And the thing about McCain is wild and, I think, wrong speculation.

McCain is a coward. He chums up with his oppressor (Bush). Makes me wonder about his captivity in 'nam, and his stability in general. The man has no shame or integrity. Frankly, I don't think a McCain "endorsement" for Kerry would have a beneficial effect.

[GOPAgainstGW]

8. Wrong Speculation WTF - The guy talked to McCain and is a MAJOR Supporter!

Cannot get any better confirmation than straight from the horses mouth.

I however am glad you slammed McCain like this because I can tell a lot of DU people really don't know who that man is, or these types of statements would not be made unless you are one of the O'Neill-SBVT moles at this site.

I was as mad at McCain as anyone until I heard the full story, and I/we have substantial GOP inside contacts.

I will post some information on John McCain and his relationship with John Kerry for everyone here at DU to read. Then please let me know if you feel the same as your statements after reading it.

Thanks

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Beltway and Texas Republicans
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[LiberalFighter]

11. Will be looking forward to hearing the scoop

Like to know what really is going on with these people.

[sally343434]

12. So what?

> a lot of DU people really don't know who (McCain) is

I'm just judging the man by what he says, what he does, and the company he keeps.

If your "substantial GOP inside contacts" had this information, you can be sure Bush/Rove would too. And if it were true, Bush would be saying, "John who?" instead of leading McCain around on a short leash like he's been doing.

[Doosh]

14. maybe they do know

maybe they hear the rumors.......and maybe john mccain keeps reassuring them it isn't true. then one fateful day he's up on stage with max cleland and john kerry, the ultimate FU.

[GOPAgainstGW]

20. You got a lot to learn about politics,or are very young,but hang in there!

[GOPAgainstGW]

21. The above comment was to sally343434

[George_Bonanza]

2. Let's trade Schwarzenegger for Miller

Two wolves in sheep's clothing.

[faithnotgreed]

3. im not quite sure i fully follow but in the "reply" from this houston

atty - they say that mccain will be dropping support of bush....? that sounds pretty hard to believe

thanks for sharing

[Julien Sorel]

4. Arnold is one part country club Republican, 9 parts opportunist.

As soon as it is cool to be a Democrat, he'll switch. Arnold has always been about going where the action is, and little else.

[KT2000]

17. Thank you for that

that is exactly what he is! Di$gu$ting fellow.

[GOPAgainstGW]

19. Exactly, Right on the Money!! Literally, haaaaaaa

[abrock]

5. Actually, that thing about McCain might not be far off.

Coming into the convention I could have sworn that McCain was going to choose his speech to get back at Bush. I know he's gonna do it, HE HAS TO. No man who deserves being called a man lets someone do what Bush did to McCain in 99/00 and get away with it.

[Doosh]

6. part of be believes it

that McCain might........just might, turn on Bush within the next 30 days.

you may take me for a fool, whatever. But I just don't believe that McCain could really be behind bush after the 2000 debacle, he can't be this shallow, he can't be this devoid of pride and honor.

remember, mccain is a POW, he knows how to shut up and endure, that's exactly that he's doing right now. The speech he delivered yesterday was lifeless, just going through the motions, and I think he planned it that way. Maybe, just MAYBE, god willing, he'll come to his senses and reject Bush and the rabid religious right that smeared him and his wife back in 2000.

I think that at the age of 68, McCain knows he doesn't have much of a chance as a 72 year old in 2008, running against Jeb, who will likely have rudy as his VP and Rove running the show again. John knows that 2000 was his first.....and last chance, and Karl Rove buried him with the lowest of all blows. This sticks in his craw like you have no idea. Perhaps Kerry has a high profile position guaranteed for McCain (national security advisor?)

[abrock]

9. Man.

I hope you are right. I THINK you are, but I HOPE you are even more. McCain was once a man of honor, and honor is something that is difficult to lose completely. You can supress it, tarnish it, and make a mess of your life, but you will remember what it was like to be an honorable man even after you've committed atrocities against the very people you swore to defend and protect.

[faithnotgreed]

10. why do you think hes been so visibly supporting bush

all of a sudden?

i saw him several times earlier this year and it was clear it was tepid support but he said the line about chairing the arizona for bush committee

anyway why would mccain suddenly appear on the trail with bush, knowing this gives bush some credibility etc hes been all over the country with him and stating publicly how bush has the right thing going to wage this war etc

why do all this so publicly?

im interested to hear your thoughts. thank you

[Doosh]

13. re

perhaps to build bush up, only to nail him with a staggering defection to the kerry campaign, or perhaps just leaving the campaign and withdrawing his support for bush, he doesn't even have to join kerry's campaign to mortally wound bush.

can you imagine a disheveled, confused GW Bush having to explain why all of a sudden John McCain has deserted him in mid october?

How can he just sit back and watch the Bush campaign do to one wounded vet(2 really, Cleland) after what they did to him. I'm sorry, McCain may be a republican, but he's not a dishonest lying neocon like the bush cabal.

for him to sit quietly and offer timid responses to the abhorrent attacks on kerry would mean he's incredibly gutless and pathetic, I refuse to believe that he is.

perhaps that's why the kerry campaign just let this swift boat thing fester, because mccain will come to there rescue. don't hold your breath, but it would be the righteous thing to do.

[faithnotgreed]

15. thanks. i hear what youre saying

and cindy did go out this week on tina browns msnbc show and its pretty clear there is no affection for what bush & co did to her & family.

and i agree - i dont know how he can stand by and know this is tearing veterans up. it is beyond my comprehension. he must have serious deja vu with what he is seeing coming from bush & co

im with you. i cant believe he is "one of them" now. giving him the benefit of the doubt, i try to imagine john in his limited way is working the best he can to hold together some semblance of the republican party that he cherishes or idealizes (lincoln etc) because he knows this is in danger of flying way out of control. it already is on its way of course but it must tear him up that this is what it has all come to in the republican party. and i can only imagine that he sees himself as a white knight of sorts to save the party before its too late

i dont know. either way it doesnt make much sense at this point. but i do pray that he will make amends somehow. because he is doing nothing but enabling the fascism and unless he has sold his soul for some reason, there is no way he would want bush to continue the devastation

[Doosh]

16. i agree

you know, I keep seeing the image of Kerry and Jim Rassman embracing in Iowa. Somehow this needs to be repeated soon, only replace Rassman with McCain. I know there political ideologies may differ, but wounded vets stick together. McCain looks so out of place in the Bush campaign right now.

[abrock]

22. Yes, but Bush would then paint McClain as a wipe swapping athiest.

[GOPAgainstGW]

18. Sec. of State Colin Powell is Leaving, Bush Offered it to McCain

for his support. That what is going on, but.........

Bush-Cheney WILL NOT win in November and McCain will find him a boat to sail on when Bush-Cheney's starts sinking bad. Bush-Cheney have already lost and they know it because of the massive Republican support they are losing.

I can tell than many DUers don't know who U.S. Senator John Sydney McCain III (R-Arizona) really is or McCain's political relationship to John Kerry and key Democratic party members. However we are Republicans & we know McCain and his history well. And, I mean that as a sincere and outstanding positive, not a negative.

I will start a new tread and post information on who John McCain really is, and what caused the Bush-Cheney "Texas Mafia" to try and destroy McCain in 2000, just like they are trying to do to Kerry in 2004 using the same players and playbook.

You can post your thoughts after reading our information on the subject.


Thanks

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

7. Limbaugh was saying the same thing about him last year.

Till he was told to toe the line and support Ahnold.

[ContinentalOp]

23. Oh great, another bullshit defense of Arnold.

I'm getting so sick of seeing this at DU. One minute it's "how could you stupid Californians elect him" and the next it's "oh, he's not so bad, he's actually a social liberal."

So he comes out in favor of a few social issues that Californians overwhelmingly support. Big surprise there. So he pays lip service to "after school programs" which have no funding. And he takes the crazy wild-eyed left wing position that the Clinton impeachment was a waste of time and money? He must be a damn communist!

The fact is this man was in bed with Enron, he's in bed with Bush and his sole purpose is to fuck over the CA economy even further. And his right-wing economic agenda passes by unquestioned thanks to Californians' worship of celebrity and the fact that he panders to a few key lifestyle issues.

[niyad]

24. I just want to know how a man who was a POW, a veteran, can stomach being

the lapdog of a deserter and the whole chickenhawk remf's group in washington.