Did Pat Buchanon Just give something away? RE: swiftvets/Republican party

[gmaki]

On MSNBC he was talking about the swiftboat ads and he said

"Have you seen the new ones? Yeah well I got 'em over the.."

Sounded like he was about to say internet but caught himself and continued...

"Ya know, I've seen them written up, they are really potent because they deal with the medals and things and they got him throwing the medals over the fence, it is very very powerful..."

Anyway I don't know if he gave something away about getting early access to these ads, and I don't even know if these ads have aired yet but he clearly caught himself and changed the story midstream for some reason.

[expatriot]

1. they are available on the internet... i have seen them.

www.swiftvets.com

they are despicable. they think protest is unamerican.

[dogtag]

2. The latest one

by Ted Sampley basically calls Kerry a communist. It's on the web now. Btw, I'm in California and they've played the Shitboat ad #2 at least 20 times today. (they must be buying a lot of ad space in a 'safe' state.)

[still_one]

5. Kerry should produce ads that call the republicans Joe McCarthey

[Feanorcurufinwe]

6. You must've seen it on a 'national' cable channel like CNN or something

[dogtag]

8. I stand corrected,

I was channel surfing, but I probably did see it on cable.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

9. I think they just started that for the RNC

[maine_raptor]

3. Ayup...he did

and interesting discussion re the Nashvile AM Legion thing tomorrow.

Pat said Kerry should go into it as Daniel and the Lion's Den.


Scarface and Ron in heated argument over vietnam "war crimes".

Hell of great live TV

[napi21]

4. I saw it on TV already.

If I remember right, it's about Kerry throwing his medals away, and saying those awards didn't mean anything to him.

[NightOwwl]

7. The fact that the SBL are still making headlines

reinforces my belief that the campaign is not going well at all.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

10. Yeah the Bush campaign is in the crapper if they're this desperate

[NightOwwl]

12. Aw, cmon...

it's not unreasonable for me to question the effectiveness of the Kerry campaign. :(

I think the campaign shake-up is a positive action on their part.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

13. Huh?

I didn't say anything about anything being 'unreasonable'.

I guess I misunderstood your post. I find the idea that the Bush campaign is doing great to be pretty far-fetched though. You have Kerry ahead in most polls, a half million people protesting Bush on the streets of NY, Kerry leading in the battleground states, rhetoric from the Republicans that has been reduced to calling people 'girlie men' -- I guess you can find reasons to be pessimistic if you want, but I don't see it.

[NightOwwl]

16. Not pessimistic, just dissapointed.

The RNC is giving us tons of material to work with, but Kerry reps are nowhere to be seen or heard. They should be out in force bashing the convention/speeches. Wish they would use Dean and Clark more.

Daily Show is on now. That should cheer me up.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

17. The reality is the networks are actively trying to elect Bush

but it's the people who vote.

[Child_Of_Isis]

11. I have a whole different outlook

on the swift boat ads. Especially the one concerning "they cut off ears, and on and on and on". I am watching them and the guys appearing in the corner talking trash is not something that I hear. I hear this beautiful melodious, poetic sounding Kerry being very anti-war. His words are flashing on the screen, and this voice goes on and I begin to fall in love with the guy. When I see these ads, it is no longer a vote for the democratic party, but a vote for an anti-war Kerry. Michael Moore and everyone always says, well why doesn't he come out and denounce the war. He already did. Years ago. These ads could very well get him the anti-war vote. Have hope, people. Sometimes things are not what they seem.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

14. With these out, the Kerry campaign has no excuse not to use

the "How can you ask a man" clip. It's just a horrible irony that Kerry will have to answer his own question, as President.

[eleny]

15. Time to use the "drunk in 1992" Bush* video in a MoveOn ad

Hey Pat, it's on the net, too!