Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Lying, Flip Flops, Insults:This Makes Bush's Campaign Superior?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 08:38 AM
Original message
Lying, Flip Flops, Insults:This Makes Bush's Campaign Superior?
I am dumbfounded by the assertion of some here that Bush and Co., with their smearing, insulting, prevaricating campaign tactics, are running a smart campaign that is superior to our own nominee's. I don't believe that the Swiftlies are enough for folks to hang their vote on, nor do I believe that Bush will succeed to pick up actual votes with his campaign barrage of personal, distorting insults. I refuse to acknowledge that anything Bush does has any potency or effectiveness. To assert that, to me, is a surrender to a hapless, counterfeit loser.

I don't believe that our candidate or his campaign should spend the bulk of their time parrying personal attacks with Bush. The Bush campaign strategy is to draw our campaign off message and into his petty war of words to divert and distract voters from discovering that John Kerry has a plan of action for America which would serve to draw attention to Bush's miserable record of failure and neglect, at home and abroad.

Yet, Bush's latest efforts have not tarnished the record of John Kerry. New polls show that the majority, 60% of the public believe that Kerry served honorably. What the public isn't sure of is just who John Kerry is and what he stands for. That should be the major focus of his next efforts: To complete the introduction of himself to the uninitiated,lay out his policy prescriptions, and of course, draw deep distinctions between his intentions and Bush's sorry record. Profile, policy, and pounding. In that order.

This is a national election. We should expect some restraint. The voters that we need to convince will respond well to a campaign which is, at least on the surface, positive. Negative campaigns tend to attach negatives to the percieved attacker and have the potential to foster cynicism and depress turnout.

Bush is well known and will bear the burden of a dismal four years of failure and neglect: Record joblessness, record loss of healthcare, lying and 'miscalculations' on our invasion and occupation of Iraq, abandonment of our veterans and soldiers, decimation and compromising of our environment in favor of logging interests, nuclear meddlers, and polluters, the abuse and eviceration of our civil liberties, the abandonment of our nation's poor in favor of giving our hard earned tax dollars to the wealthiest, the sham of declaring himself the 'education president' while refusing to actually fund his own inituitives, the snubbing of science in favor of political meddling and obstruction, the attempted use of our constitution to discriminate against our nation's gays and lesbians, the refusal to sanction anyone in his office responsible for the outing of a CIA agent, the reintroduction of new nuclear weapons and weapon's production . . .

Those pitiful republican smears have also served to draw attention to Bush's absense from duty and Cheney's refusal to serve. They have not actually affected the credibility of John Kerry among anyone who has bothered to look at the facts of the accusation and bothers to pay any mind to Kerry's actual campaign. When we get the spotlight back after the convention, our nominee will stand tall against the counterfeit losers in the White House.


Good luck to us.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 08:42 AM
Response to Original message
1. I agree 100%
The point of an election has to be more than just telling the crowd why the other guy should not be elected...you have to say why you should be. And the Republicans cannot point to a single accomplishment.

And their convention has been one giant suckhole so far, and I expect it to continue to be.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 08:48 AM
Response to Original message
2. Yes! Yes! Yes!
You nailed it! Thank you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
the Kelly Gang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 08:50 AM
Response to Original message
3. right on !..I do not think the sleaze tactics that they are using can be
tackled..all you can do is sit them out until they run their course..unless you get down in the gutter along with them..this type of hate smears only have a limited shelf life..the best thing Kerry can do is be open and honest and present good policies..if people do not respond to that they will not respond to anything you do.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 08:53 AM
Response to Original message
4. Yo! Gutter politics is not "tough" as some would have us believe.
Do not let them substitute "tough" for "slimy, unethical, cowardly, and amoral".

Nice post!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 09:06 AM
Response to Original message
5. LOL! A great PR guy once told me
"Boy, when you start spinning the spin, you're in big trouble." That's the pointing out that if you have to explain how a campaign strategy is working in a thousand words of graduate student prose it's probably a shitty campaign strategy. I guess you're going to cling to it till the last dog dies, even though our candidate has apparently rejected it.

The real world, non-theoretical evidence shows that the GOP attacks viciously with lies and insult that often works. What history shows is that we can beat them if we fight back with the truth, except we fight back just as hard, just as mean, and even smarter.

Clinton said it even more succinctly: They throw the first punch, I pick up a pool cue. What you apparently don't get, but thankfully John Kerry does get, is that the pool cue can be wielded with the sophistication of any rope-a-doping political judo chess master. It just wins elections.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 09:17 AM
Response to Reply #5
8. Sounds good, but I disagree
The majority of voters want a campaign based on the issues and concerns that most affect them. Negative attacks tend to turn off voters and could discourage them fromthe polls. Also, the attacker normally takes on more negatives than positives and turns as many or more away from their campaign than they would attract.

Clinton also refused to be distracted. Remember, 'It's the economy, (stupid).

"Clinton's advice, which has been passed on to Kerry through intermediaries: Don't get diverted by what's in the news media each day; just set your plan and stick to it."
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/archive/bull040729n.htm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 09:06 AM
Response to Original message
6. It's falling apart!
The Puke campaign is in rags! Just look at the last few days:

"Can't win the war"
Band-aids that leave a purple bruise when pulled off.
Iraq.
Jobs.
Too conservative with their compassion.

Boosh can't stand the pressure.... look for more boo-boo's from ol' boo-boo.

He ain't no bubba, he's a boo-boo. LOL

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 09:10 AM
Response to Original message
7. Well said!
The public needs to know who Kerry is and what he stands for. BushCo is sinking itself with negative attacks that are backfiring.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 09:22 AM
Response to Original message
9. with you. excellent post
:toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 18th 2024, 12:55 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC