I just got off the phone with the Kerry campaign and am feeling very

[mzmolly]

encouraged.

I told them that we need to educate voters on Bush's failures on 911 and on National Security.

I said we have plenty of ammo on the 911 report and in Richard Clark's book to go after Bush on 911. We also obviously have plenty of ammo on Iraq as well.

I also said that when they smeared Kerry they used his bio at the convention as an "in" to do so. They in effect said "Kerry opened himself up to criticism by running on his record in Vietnam." So, I suggested to the campaign that we have the PERFECT in to do the same to Bush. "Bush has opened himself up to criticism on the issue of 911 and National Security, because he has run his campaign on these issues." :evilgrin: At that point person taking my suggestions said "that's a very good idea" and was very encouraging. He said he plans to pass the info on, and I got the feeling that he meant it. ;)

Crossing fingers folks!

If your interested in contacting the campaign do so here: I hope everyone who feels we should take this course, (and voted so in my poll) will do so. :hi:

http://www.johnkerry.com/contact/

Contact National Headquarters
Kerry-Edwards 2004, Inc.
P.O. Box 34640
Washington, DC 20043
202-712-3000
202-712-3001 (fax)
202-336-6950 (TTY)

If you contact them, let us know how it went.

[dennis4868]

1. He said he plans to pass the info on

to the wastebasket? Seriuosly, Kerry's campaign team is in serious disarray!

[Scairp]

2. What is your problem?

This is not true, in any way, shape or form. Please read http://talkingpointsmemo.com, and stop with the nonsense about "disarray". This campaign is NOT in disarray and by buying into this media invention you perpetuate it and make it true because people begin to lose hope. Just cut it out, okay?

[jackstraw45]

8. Marshall agreed with many of us at DU

Even though he scolds worried democrats with one hand, he agrees with the other. If you read the fine print at the end of his rant:

"The Kerry campaign needs to get control of the debate back from the president. And they need to start hitting much harder. "

That's exactly what many here at DU have been SLAMMED for saying the past weeks.

Care to fire your wrath at Marshall too?

[lancdem]

11. Hell, even Kerry knows he has to hit back harder

and he will. That's a far cry from saying the campaign's in disarray.

[NV1962]

17. The Kerry campaign can't, shouldn't and won't stoop to * level

it's up to "the rest of us" to level the playing field - because that's exactly what * has done in 2000 and is doing now.

We should hit back with "our" SBVTs - not pin it lazily on Kerry as a problem for him to resolve.

You don't have your candidate winning by riding coattails on his/her campaign.

[mzmolly]

22. I think Kerry and US need to act on this.

:hi:

[LSK]

30. does everyone forget that kerry is saving money in august?????

[mondo joe]

35. The swiftboaters didn't cost Bush a dime

There are ways to get stories in the news other than paying for commercials.

All Kerry has to do is level an attack on Bush on a hot button issue in a speech.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

3. Oh horseshit.

The poll numbers do not reflect your posit.

[mbali]

4. You know this how?

[buff2]

5. You need to quit listening to the GOPervert talking points

They've been pounding the same tripe for days now. :eyes:

[NewYorkerfromMass]

6. I know. When Kerry said "we couldn't win the war on terror"....

oh ... Bush said that. (serious disarray indeed)

[mzmolly]

7. I realize you have over 1000 posts, but that doens't mean were on the

same side. :hi:

Let's just say ... I doubt your intent here.

[dennis4868]

10. Wow.....

I just got flamed by all of you....listen I love Kerry and my wife and I are volunteering for him....I am taking time away from my kids and work to do this....but below is my post from earlier today:

I am depressed about all of this. After Barak Obama's speech at the convention I was on a high....now that has all changed.

I am mad at Kerry for this reason and this reason only. HE SHOULD HAVE LEARNED FROM THE 2000 ELECTION!

Kerry and his people do not understand what they are up against. THEY JUST DON'T GET IT! Their number 1 enemy is not George Bush, it is the mainstreem media, especially the TV and Cable TV mainstreem media.

Take for instance 2 recent political stories/events.

The Swift Boat Vets for Truth come out with these lies about Kerry's military record and the mainstreem media gives it attention. Can you believe that? The Swift Boat Vets for truth have NO FACTS TO BACK UP THEIR STORY AND HAVE BEEN CAUGHT FLAT OUT LIEING ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN SAYING and the media still gives them the attention they want.

Then you have Bush's military record and it is an ugly one....his father gets him in the champaign unit where he HAS NO CHANCE OF GOING TO VIETNAM and then skips out on the Alabama national Guard. THERE IS PLENTY OF FACTS AND EVIDENCE TO BACK THIS UP yet the media for the most part gives it very little, if any, attention.

This tells you something is very fishy about the mainstreem media.

Then you have the Bush statement of "we cant win the war on terror." This is a major Bush flip flop yet the media says, "well he is right you know, you cant ever win this war." (by the way, when Kerry changes his mind the issue is never whether or not Kerry was right about the issue). And then Bush the next day flip flops again and says, "we will win the war on terror." And what does the media say about this?....."Bush CLARIFIED himself on this issue....." Now you can bet your first born child that if Kerry made such a mistatement the media would NEVER let him forget about it....they would be hammering away that this just proves that he is a big league flip flopper.

So this what we are dealing with. Kerry should know this. Kerry should know from the 2000 election that he cannot let a lie about him go unanswered for weeks hoping the media will take care of it for him. The media will never do that for him, only for the other guy. Kerry will not have the help from the media too push lies about him aside. Therefore, he has got to respon immediately and attack back. He does not understand this yet. Why? I have no idea.

Because of the ignorance by Kerry it is hurting him in the polls and could very well lose the election if he does not get his act together.

And please dont tell me not to preach to the Kerry campaign and that they are much smarter than I am and they know what they are doing. According to many reports even Kerry is very mad about all of this but his advisors hold him back from fighting. It is like a boxing trainor who ties one hand behind his fighter's back to fight the world champion. Why are they doign this.

FIGHT BACK MR. KERRY.....PLEASE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE UP AGAINST!

[lancdem]

14. I totally understand your frustration

I was feeling the same way a few days ago but I'm on an even keel now. All campaigns have ups and downs. At worst, Kerry is running even with Bush. The sky is not falling.

[mzmolly]

19. I totally agree. Kerry needs to make bold unmistakable statements

that will both get media attention, and leave no room for doubt. :hi:

[npincus]

28. clever and logical

... it makes perfect sense. Way to go!

[Quahog]

36. I agree 100%

Clinton understood this. He had his rapid response teams in his campaign, and they would not let any bullshit charges leveled by the rethugs sit for more than 24 hours before they had their response together, and they got right in the face of the media and they MADE the response a news item. They hit back hard and fast, and hey, even some of the stuff that was probably true was blown out of the water.

I understand that people who know Kerry say he is "waiting for his moment." But voters are already deciding that he was never wounded in Nam, he never did a heroic thing there, and his whole war record is a pack of lies that he wrote himself and got some general to sign. Soon it will be too late to contradict this impression, and Kerry's NEW job will be to convince people that it's a good idea to vote for a guy who lied about being wounded in Nam.

Exact same thing happened to Al Gore... it got to the point where he had to go on Letterman and Leno and make jokes at his own expense about discovering Love Canal, and the whole tone was, "Can't you see what a cool guy I am that I can look back on my own LIES and make fun of them? Ha ha ha!" What he should have done the DAY that he was accused of claiming to discover Love Canal is to get in front of a camera and say, "You, (name name here), must either be utterly deaf or intentionally lying. Here is the videotape of me speaking to the children at that school about Love Canal:" (roll tape) "You can't be stupid enough to think I was saying I personally went out and physically discovered Love Canal, no one is that dense. So you either didn't listen to what I actually said, or you are intentionally lying about me. Which is it?"

Kerry is, sadly, doing the same thing. How soon before he goes on Letterman and makes a joke about the made-up story about swift boat heroics? This is fucking lame. GHWB said yesterday that people who accuse him of rigging junior's stint in the TANG are "LIARS." He said, "LIARS." He's wrong, of course, everyone knows he rigged it, but when you get your face in a camera and say "LIAR," it tends to deflate the story. Your self-defense becomes the story at that point. It takes balls to call someone a liar, and as well all know, it's supposedly the chimp's balls that people are voting for. We love balls in the US. So when someone is LYING about you and you don't call them a LIAR, people don't think that's noble and moral and fair-minded of you, they think you are fucking WEAK AND BALL-LESS. If someone lies about me, I say, "You lie." I don't sit around and wait for someone who I know doesn't like me or support me to come to my defense.

How can they not see this?

[dennis4868]

12. please dont go there....

I love Kerry and i am losing income so that I can volunteer for Kerry....so please dont question my intent....i can have an opinion that goes against your opinion....dems are allowed to do that....we are not repubs, right?

[mzmolly]

15. Then why not state YOUR opinion instead of saying mine should be

tossed in the wastebasket?! It seems to me YOU are the one who expressed intollerance here.

[dennis4868]

18. Okay I am sorry....

maybe I went overboard there....forgive me....sorry :-)

[truthspeaker]

24. sure about that? check this thread!

Kerry speaks to veterans: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x711789

[dennis4868]

25. WELL THAT IS A GOOD START/////

GO JOHN GO!

[barackmyworld]

33. procedure for comments

If you call the Boston headquarters, you might talk to me on the phone! Whenever people call with comments, we at the front desk fill out a comment form that goes to the head of the office. Sometimes many people will call in saying the same thing, so we will write on the comment form "12 calls suggesting that kerry attack the purple heart band-aids" or something like that.

[mondo joe]

9. Good for you mzmolly!

I'm proud of you and I'm doing the same!

[mzmolly]

13. Thank YOU. Let us know how it goes!

:hi:

[dennis4868]

16. Good for you mzmolly!"

what do you mean by that? No one should question my loyalty to Kerry....i cant sleep at night because I am so worried about Bush and what he will do to this counry if he is reselected for another 4 years!

[mzmolly]

20. I think Mondojoe was just encouraging me, not insulting you.

:hi:

[mondo joe]

21. Not about questioning you - about calling the campaign

Dennis, I wasn't saying GOOD FOR YOU about questioning your loyalty. I was congratulating mzmolly on calling the Kerry Campaign.

I don't know you and I have no reason to doubt your loyalty. Although there are certainly freeper trolls here, I think the accusations are made far too often and too quickly.

[dennis4868]

23. I agree....

sometimes it seems that as soon as someone has an opinion that most others here do not hold that they quickly get accused of being a freeper...and yes, if anyone has concerns about the campaign then call Kerry's office....my stupid comment in my original post that it will just go into the wastebasket was off base.....I apologize for saying that :-)

[mzmolly]

26. You are forgiven, I am sorry for questioning your intent.

:hi:

[dennis4868]

27. Peace.....

:bounce:

[mumon]

29. Yes. Exactly...

We need the 9/11 families for truth, the diplomats for truth, and the Iraq Veterans for Truth.

We will probably get 'em, too.

I've been saying that on my blog for a while: the process is to "de-brand" George W. Bush: de-brand his "9/11 Leadership" with "My Pet Goat," and "AWOL on 9/11," and "al Qaeda's worse than ever," and "where's the anthrax guy?"

Each one could be an ad, each more devastating than the last.

Then we get into "Iraqmire."

[BurtWorm]

31. Mzmolly, that's exactly what they should have been doing all along.

Taking the attitude that, by the time they're through with Bush, Americans won't know if he's Qaeda or Taliban.

[mzmolly]

32. Agreed. But, the convention gives us a perfect in ala the SB liar talking

point. "He opened himself up to criticism because he ran on X"

I think the Kerry camp has been relying to heavilly on surrogates to do this, but Kerry is THE competition, so he must be the one to challenge him on his failure regarding 911. Sounds like you agree. :)

Though I did suggest a *cough* 527 even if that meant someone had to leave the campaign if they were too chicken shit to do it themselves, though I hope they won't be. :hi:

[BurtWorm]

34. Oh I agree all right!

They should never have pulled that McCain ad. That hit like a 527 and "John Kerry approved that message."

:hi:

PS: But since they did pull that ad, it would be great to see another that hit as hard.

[mzmolly]

37. That was a great ad. I think they should hand it off to an existing group

shhhh. ;)