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George W. Dunce Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:35 AM
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Cheneys disappearing votes from congress
I think this is every weapons system that crazy Zell mentioned last night. He must of had time restraints that kept him from getting to this.

Cheney Proposed Cutting F-16 Aircraft. In testimony before the House Armed Services Committee, Cheney said, "If you're going to have a smaller air force, you don't need as many F-16s...The F-16D we basically continue to buy and close it out because we're not going to have as big a force structure and we won't need as many F-16s." According to the Boston Globe, Bush's 1991 defense budget "kill 81 programs for potential savings of $ 11.9 billion...Major weapons killed include....the Air Force's F-16 airplane."

Cheney Proposed Cuts to B-2 Program. According to the Boston Globe, in 1990, "Defense Secretary Richard Cheney announced a cutback... of nearly 45 percent in the administration's B-2 Stealth bomber program, from 132 airplanes to 75..."

Cheney Proposed Cutting AH-64 Apaches. In testimony before the Senate Appropriations Committee, Defense Subcommittee, Cheney said, "This is just a list of some of the programs that I've recommended termination: the V-22 Osprey, the F-14D, the Army Helicopter Improvement Program, Phoenix missile, F-15E, the Apache helicopter, the M1 tank, et cetera." In testimony before the House Armed Services Committee, Cheney said, "The Army, as I indicated in my earlier testimony, recommended to me that we keep a robust Apache helicopter program going forward, AH-64...I forced the Army to make choices...So I recommended that we cancel the AH- 64 program two years out."

Cheney Proposed Cutting M-1 Abrams Tanks. In testimony before the Senate Appropriations Committee, Defense Subcommittee, Cheney said, "This is just a list of some of the programs that I've recommended termination: the V-22 Osprey, the F-14D, the Army Helicopter Improvement Program, Phoenix missile, F-15E, the Apache helicopter, the M1 tank, et cetera." The Boston Globe reported on the impact of Cheney's cuts to armored tanks: "The Army's cupboard is left particularly bare. Coming in the wake of last year's killing of the M- 1 tank and the Apache helicopter, the death of the M-2 means the Army will soon have virtually no major weapons in production."

Cheney Proposed Cutting B-52 Bombers. In 1990, Cheney proposed cutting 14 B-52 bombers. Cheney also sought the retirement of two Navy battleships, two nuclear cruisers, and eight nuclear-powered attack submarines. In 1991, Cheney scrapped the Navy's A-12 Stealth attack plane, a fighter that was proclaimed to be a key part of the future of navy aviation in advanced stealth technology.

Cheney's Record as Secretary of Defense Includes Cutting Troops and Bases

Cheney Cut Thousands of Active-Duty, Reserve, and Civilian Forces. In January 1990, Cheney banned the hiring of any new civilian personnel in the Defense Department through the end of September, which left more than 65,000 jobs vacant. Under the budget proposed in 1990, the Pentagon would have reduced active military personnel by 38,000; selected reserves would have fallen by 3,000. The budget called for the deactivation of two Army divisions. Long range, the Pentagon planned to reduce its work force by 300,000, including about 200,000 military personnel and 100,000 civilians. In 1991, he called for reduction of 200,000 active and reserve military personnel over two years. In 1992, Cheney called for cutting 500,000 active-duty people, 200,000 reservists, and 200,000 civilians over five years.

Active-Duty and Reserve Forces Endured Huge Reductions Under Cheney. The LA Times reported in November 1991 that the number of active-duty military personnel had decreased by over 106,000, or 5 percent of the total forces. The National Guard and Reserves had been cut by nearly 38,000, instead of the 105,000 the Bush Administration sought.

Cheney Proposed Over 70 Base Closures. In 1990, Cheney proposed the closure of 72 domestic military installations and 12 overseas facilities. On April 12, 1991, Cheney proposed to close 31 major domestic military bases. The plan also called for shutting 12 smaller bases and reducing operations at 28 others. He submitted his list of closures to a commission on base closings on April 15, 1991. In 1992, Cheney proposed 70 overseas military base closures, three of which were in Turkey.

In 1981, Cheney Voted Against Raising Military Pay for Senior and Junior Enlisted Personnel. In 1981, Cheney voted against an amendment to increase the pay of senior enlisted personnel by 18-22 percent and the basic pay of junior enlisted personnel by 7-9 percent. The amendment was rejected 170-232. <1981 CQ Almanac, p.66-H, vote #192>

In 1982, Cheney Voted Against Authorizing Military Pay Raise. In 1982, Cheney voted against the "Uniformed Services Pay Act" which would have authorized a pay raise in FY 1983 for uniformed members of the armed services. The bill would have also restricted the hiring of private contractors to perform Department of Defense services. The vote was a motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill. The motion was rejected 214-186. <1982 CQ Almanac, p.98-H, vote #330>

As Congressman, Cheney Consistently Voted Against Veterans Administration Funding. In 1980, 1981, 1982, 1985, 1986, 1987, and 1988, Cheney was one of a small number of House members to passage of bills that provided funding for the Veterans Administration. In 1983, Cheney voted against bringing a bill to the House floor and paired against House passage of a bill that provided funding for the Veterans Administration. In 1981, Cheney was one of only 41 House members to vote against House passage of a bill that provided business loans and additional educational benefits to Vietnam veterans. In 1983, Cheney was one of only 30 House members to vote against House passage of a bill that would have provided $54 million for Agent Orange studies and $75 million for the Emergency Veterans Jobs Training Act.

Sorry it's so long. I just don't understand why it's not being talked about every time they spew this crap.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:37 AM
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1. Got a link? I'd like to pass this info on...
Thanks!

:yourock:
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:40 AM
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2. What a great collection of info. Thanks!
n/t
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21winner Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:43 AM
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3. At that time,
he was a budget hawk. Cheney swims with current the tide. It is just amoralty. There is never enough.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:47 AM
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4. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:47 AM
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5. this was shared on the CNN interview with Miller....he was freaking
facts are many people were against these systems... they need to cherry pick and smear
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:52 AM
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6. This is why Miller threatened to shoot and kill Tweety
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:44 AM
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12. What CNN show was this?
I would like to read the transcripts.
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:02 AM
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7. This is homepage worthy. n/t
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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:07 AM
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8. Excellent Work Here - Keep it Up & Everybody Please Send to the Media!
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Beltway and Texas Republicans
Against Bush-Cheney ’04, Inc.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:10 AM
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9. Some OTHER memorable Cheney votes...
Cheney Was One of Only 4 House Members to Vote Against Banning Plastic Guns in 1988.

One of Only 12 House Members to Oppose Older Americans Act Amendments in 1984.

One of Only 39 House Members to Back Capping Social Security COLAs in 1985.

One of Only 8 House Members to Oppose Renewing the Older Americans Act Providing Nutrition and Support Services for Elderly People in 1987.

One of Only 7 House Members to Oppose Renewing the Conference Report on the Older Americans Act in 1987.

One of Only 33 House Members to Vote Against Reauthorization of the Head Start Plan in 1986.

One of Only 27 House Members to Oppose Funding for Head Start in 1986.

One of Only 25 House Members to Vote Against a Bill to Reauthorize College Student Aid in 1986.

One of Only 8 Members to Vote Against Reauthorizing Both the National Health Service Corps and the Federal Immunization Program in 1987.

One of Only 16 House Members to Oppose 1983 Crime Bill Designed to Help States Fight Crime.

One of Only 31 House Members to Oppose Family Violence Prevention Program in 1984.

One of Only 21 House Members to Oppose Ban on Armor Piercing Bullets in 1985.

One of Only 18 House Members to Oppose Reauthorizing "Federal Water Pollution Act" in 1981.

One of Only 9 House Members to Oppose EPA Research and Development in 1984.

One of Only 33 House Members to Oppose Reauthorization of "Superfund" in 1985.

One of Only 27 House Members to Oppose Reauthorization of Superfund in 1986.

One of Only 21 House Members to Oppose Refunding "Safe Drinking Water Act" in 1986.

One of Only 8 House Members to Oppose Reauthorization of Clean Water Act in 1987.

One of Only 26 House Members to Support Reagan's Veto of Reauthorization of Clean Water Act in 1987.

One of Only 16 House Members to Oppose Reauthorization of Endangered Species Act in 1987.

One of Only 33 House Members to Oppose Guaranteeing Death Benefits for Firefighters and Cop Widows in 1983.

One of Only 9 Members to Vote Against Allowing Federal Employees to Take Time Off for Sick Family Members in 1988.

One of Only 29 House Members to Oppose Collection of Hate Crime Data in 1988.

One of Only 16 House Members to Vote Against Support for Nutrition Programs in 1983.

One of Only 39 House Members to Vote Against Hunger Relief Plan in 1984.
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:21 AM
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10. If Tweety had this info and Miller came on his show tonight
We might have ourselves a duel.
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George W. Dunce Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:44 AM
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11. He could have
He knows this info. That is why I get so pissed, instead of asking him if John Kerry really wants to defend the country "with spitballs" he should have cited some of the bills that Cheney not only voted to cut as a congressmen but actually cut as secretary of defense.I am sure tweety could of had a staffer of his hit the ole' LexisNexis and they could have matched them bill for bill.

Let me also say that at the time Cheney was right as was Kerry. The cold war was over and the deficit was out of control. These cuts made sense at the time. I do not understand why they don't politely cut these people off and cite some of these bills to them and put it to rest and move on to some other issue. If we had real journalist who would do this on a consistent basis we could have some meaningful debate in this country.
But as some one much smarter then I once said

"Freedom of press is limited to those who own one"
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