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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:47 AM
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Is the liberal media disappearing Zell Miller's meltdown?
I didn't hear anything about it on the Today show (at least at the beginning) or NPR. If Al Sharpton is deserving of abuse for his speech, surely Miller's performance is worth a word or two, even if the guy is white and conservative.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:52 AM
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1. Doesn't matter if they try to....
It's going to grow in the retelling....this has been the Worst. Convention. Ever.

And we've still got "the next Churchill" tonight...
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:54 AM
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3. This convention is pretty close to the 1992 GOP convention
in terms of disaster. Miller last night reminds me of Pat Buchanan in '92.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:56 AM
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6. bingo...the repugs are hateful liars ... this could change their party for
years to come
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:02 AM
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9. I think it tops 92 (or bottoms, depending)
Miller does remind one of Pitchfork Pat...but I don't recall any horror in '92 akin to the Tequila Twins babbling drunkenly....

And "Dun't be an economic girlyman" is going to be haunting every Republican running for anything this fall....

Also, I don't recall anybody mentioning Nixon in 92....it WAS sweet of Ahnuld to remind the country which party gave America Watergate, and the 18 minute gap, and tape recordings full of paranoid mutterings about Jews, wasn't it?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:55 AM
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5. according to my LiberaL paper
this is the greatest convention ever!!! thanks boston gLobe
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:53 AM
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2. I heard it on NPR's morning edition
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:55 AM
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4. I heard Liasson review the speech, but did they later mention his
challenge to Chris Matthews? I can't imagine them ignoring it if Al Shaprton had challenged Wolf Blitzer to a duel.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:59 AM
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7. Miller threatened to shoot and kill Matthews
we need to be saying that today.
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:02 AM
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10. Are you serious?
I've been studiously avoiding the RNC because I want to keep my blood pressure regulated. Did that angry, old POS traitor actually say that?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:41 AM
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14. He used the Bill O'Really line of "I wish I could challenge you to a duel"
Does anyone else think Zell's meltdown was a Democratic mole attack? I mean, if he got up there and did a "with a heavy heart" speech, it would have been MUCH more effective than last night's Prime Time Meltdown. :shrug:
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Texas_Dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:04 AM
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11. Really?
Wow, old Zell there needs to be put in an mental care facility. He might hurt himself otherwise.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:01 AM
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8. Imus replayed it this morning
But I haven't heard anything on CNN, but then I might have missed it. I had to turn it off when Bill Hemmer started gushing over with Bush's sister. Revolting.
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:05 AM
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12. I listened live last night, commentary called Zell 'over the top'.
NPR followed the speech with comments from a guy from the Washington Post, one from the Weekly Standard and one from NPR. The Post and the NPR commentators were pretty flabbergasted and called it 'over the top' and said it was likely to be counterproductive. Said they'd looked into Miller's litany of votes and found that they were votes against amendments that had nothing to do with the systems Miller called out. They also gave the actual quote that Miller mis-stated as the position of refusing to use force until after the country was attacked and the statement about 'aksing permission' from the UN before using force.

The Weekly Standard guy was less adamant, but even he was unhappy and used the same phrase - 'over the top'.

It's going to be interesting to see how it plays out for the next couple of days.

Richard Ray - Jackson Hole, WY
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:37 AM
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13. Anyone know if our side has blast-faxed the media about this --
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 08:39 AM by DeepModem Mom
calling it a meltdown? I think that's how the Wellstone memorial was turned against us, and how the "Dean Scream" entered political history -- the other side created the stories. Of course, blast-faxes from our side may just be ignored by the media.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:53 AM
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15. those guys in the media....
bush's pushers, need fair trial and quick executions, and will get them, in time (tho i see no need for trials:()
i actually heard this mentioned, i think on the daily show; someone was saying the newsmen are feeling unconfortable with the way everything's going etc with the rnc convention bringing it all out, and the other guy (jon stewart(?)) said that the media maybe can sense they in trouble and they'll be taken to shea stadium (shades of the mass killings in santiago, chile, stadium during pinochet coup)
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:56 AM
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16. Even if it disappears, we've won the Zell situation
The Right expected to be able to use his conversion over and over. But they can't bring it up now without showing/talking about the actual speech. His speech was so over the top that it's radioactive.

So instead of having a weapon to use against the Democrats, they now have a land-mine field surrounding them.
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