HEADS UP! Atrios: "Young Bush story out tonight/tomorrow..."

[johnfunk]

... on Salon. Posted to Eschaton about a half hour ago (7:11PM EST). He is not talking about the Ben Barnes story (by the way, make a date to watch 60 Minutes this Sunday -- Barnes reportedly tells all).

[lancdem]

1. I'm confused

atrios is not referring to the Barnes story? What is he referring to?

[johnfunk]

5. Good question. I doubt he'd be giving a heads-up...

... unless it's something really juicy, damaging and/or embarrassing.

[Renew Deal]

31. Could be the abortion story.

[VolcanoJen]

It's not out yet... Atrios/Eschaton is just providing a heads-up...

... to the forthcoming Salon story.

Salon usually web-publishes their big stories around 11:00 pm edt. Keep your eyes peeled!!!

[seemslikeadream]

2. Confused also

please explain

[11cents]

3. Barnes is on 60 Minutes Sunday after next

Not this Sunday. Just to clarify.

[librechik]

21. No, Wednesday on 60 min II

CBS trying to bury it.

[AmerDem]

4. what the fuck

What is it with so many people here starting open ended posts with NO info to back up the subject heading!


DETAILS!

[mzmolly]

6. Wow! Excellente' Timing couldn't be better if we get this to the media

before next sunday :toast:

:evilgrin:

Think I'll send it out ... now!

[Langis]

7. He deleted the post?!?!

Am I going crazy? Or did he delete the post, I just read it a minute ago.

[City Lights]

9. It's still there. eom

[seemslikeadream]

8. Comment on Eschaton

George Bush photographed wearing a medal he did not earn.

www.bluelemur.com
Bart | Email | Homepage | 09.01.04 - 7:31 pm | #

[johnfunk]

11. If that's the story, DUers have been ahead of the curve for a week

Now, is there someone out there with, say, a couple hundred thousand handy to finance a 527 to do some nice swing state spots?

TANG Veteran 1: "I served with George Bush."

TANG Veteran 2: "I served with George Bush."

AlabamaNG Veteran: "I was supposed to have served with George Bush -- but I never saw him when he was supposed to be at drills in Alabama."

TANG Veteran 1: "His daddy's pals deprived a more qualified man a spot in the Texas Air Guard during the Vietnam War."

TANG Veteran 2: "He wore a ribbon he never earned."

AlabamaNG Veteran: "Why did he walk out on his duty to taxpayers -- and still pick up a paycheck?."

TANG Veteran 1: "He was more interested in booze and broads than doing his duty."

TANG Veteran 2: "Wearing a ribbon he didn't earn is an insult to the men and women who earned it."

AlabamaNG Veteran: "He violated his oath as an officer."

Voiceover: "Air National Guard Veterans for Truth call for George W. Bush to explain the many unanswered questions about his chequered military career -- and why so many records of his service seem to have vanished."

[seemslikeadream]

12. Wouldn't that be great! Walt Starr!

George W. Bush was photographed wearing a ribbon he did not earn

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x654437

[Junkdrawer]

10. If Dubya can make Young Kerry an issue......

As Edwards said, everthing is in play.

[johnfunk]

13. Damn right, and let's not let him hide behind "Jaaaay-zus forgave me"

I don't care if you're "born again" and have a clean slate -- time to pay back all that TANG cash you bilked from taxpayers. Better late than never!

[brook]

14. It's Up!

Check it out on Salon.

Widow of old Bush family friend comes forward to illuminate * in Alabama. She says he was sent by Poppy to her husband "to babysit" because he was a 'political liability' in Houston.

[ramblin_dave]

15. Link to Salon article

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/09/02/allison/index.html

George W. Bush's missing year
The widow of a Bush family confidant says her husband gave the future president an Alabama Senate campaign job as a favor to his worried father. Did they see him do any National Guard service? "Good lord, no."

[annabanana]

17. dee lisheous! n/t

[Bozita]

20. Age 26, going on 12 --- Bush's antics

from the Salon article:

The break happened not long after a boozy election-night wake for Blount, who lost his Senate bid to the incumbent Democrat, John Sparkman. Leaving the election-night "celebration," Allison remembers encountering George W. Bush in the parking lot, urinating on a car, and hearing later about how he'd yelled obscenities at police officers that night. Bush left a house he'd rented in Montgomery trashed -- the furniture broken, walls damaged and a chandelier destroyed, the Birmingham News reported in February. "He was just a rich kid who had no respect for other people's possessions," Mary Smith, a member of the family who rented the house, told the newspaper, adding that a bill sent to Bush for repairs was never paid. And a month later, in December, during a visit to his parents' home in Washington, Bush drunkenly challenged his father to go "mano a mano," as has often been reported.

Around the same time, for the 1972 Christmas holiday, the Allisons met up with the Bushes on vacation in Hobe Sound, Fla. Tension was still evident between Bush and his parents. Linda was a passenger in a car driven by Barbara Bush as they headed to lunch at the local beach club. Bush, who was 26 years old, got on a bicycle and rode in front of the car in a slow, serpentine manner, forcing his mother to crawl along. "He rode so slowly that he kept having to put his foot down to get his balance, and he kept in a weaving pattern so we couldn't get past," Allison recalled. "He was obviously furious with his mother about something, and she was furious at him, too."

more...

[underseasurveyor]

16. To babysit Houston's political liability?

AHA ha ha BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

There's your "LEGACY" Asshole Boosh heh heh :evilgrin:
The Babysat President.
Some things never change, even with age.

[papau]

19. Wasn't he age 25 when he got the 15 year old girlfriend the abortion?

I guess he really was "raising hell"

One always wonders what kind of background one should look for in the folks trying for your support in order to become the "leader"

[librechik]

22. naughty thoughts!

ooo they so deserve to get busted for what they're doing to Kerry (and the American People) though.


If it's true it should come out.
The truth is never a low blow.

But I suspect this old story. I don't have any reason to believe it's true at the moment, though it's certainly possible.

Also it is not politically pertinent. If W had secretly joined the Weathermen or spied for the CIA in Laos or something, that would be interesting.

The abortion chestnut is just sad.

[papau]

23. Link to details below to Robin Lowman (now Robin Garner) & her abortion

From: http://www.democrats.com/display.cfm?id=159

Was George W. Bush "Involved"
in an Illegal Abortion??

In the winter of 1971 George W. Bush was dating a woman named Robin Lowman (now Robin Garner). Miss Lowman became pregnant by Smirk and he arranged for her to have an abortion - which in the great state of Texas in 1971 was very illegal! Not to mention that George W. is running as a pro-life candidate for the presidency.
The unnamed source of this story, was a friend of Robin Lowman's and the girlfriend of the man who arranged the abortion. His name is Robert Carl Chandler. Chandler is a Bush friend and supporter from way back and he made the arrangements for Miss Lowman's abortion at the Twelve Oaks Hospital in Houston, TX (now the Bayou City Medical Center). The source overheard the call by Mr. Chandler to arrange the abortion and the source visited Robin Lowman at the Twelve Oaks Hospital after the procedure.

The source meanwhile, is afraid of coming forward, saying that she was threatened by Chandler and another Bush friend and supporter named Jim Bath. Bath has longstanding intelligence connections, and played a role in the BCCI scandal. Robin Lowman (now Garner) is married to Jerry Lee Garner who is an FBI agent.

The CNN Coverup

Amazingly, CNN scrubbed its own story!!!!

This has all the markings of a cover-up by CNN - just like the cover-ups of Bush's many other scandals, from going AWOL, to using illegal drugs, to corruption in Texas government, to lying under oath.

Here is the original transcript that was published by CNN, but has now been scrubbed.

NOVAK: Mr. Flynt, never let it be said that we censor any of our guests here on CROSSFIRE, and you said you wanted to talk about the election. Tell me what you wanted to say.

FLYNT: Well, during the impeachment debacle, we did an investigation which resulted in the resignation of Bob Livingston and others and we have continued this investigation and for eight months we've been looking into George W. Bush's background. And we've found out in the early 1970s he was involved in an abortion in Texas, and I just think that it's sad that the mainstream media, who's aware of this story, won't ask him that question when they were able to ask him the drug question without any proof at all, and we've got all kinds of proof on this issue.

NOVAK: Well, you're...

FLYNT: You know, the guy admitted he was a drunk for 20 years, and if the abortion issue is true then that puts him lower on the morality scale than Bill Clinton.

NOVAK: Mr. Flynt, you said if it's true and you have no proof of that. I gather you are a very strong...

FLYNT: The hell we don't have proof.

NOVAK: Sir, I gather you're a very strong Gore supporter. Is that correct?

FLYNT: I'll vote for the lesser of the two evils. I don't like either one of them.

PRESS: All Right, Larry Flynt, a man who speaks his word, but we remind you they are Larry Flynt's words and not ours. Larry Flynt, thank you very, very much for joining us.

This was followed by an online chat, in which Flynt went into greater detail:

CNN - Mr. Flynt, I would like to know how you plan to protect yourself from a law suit by claiming to have the goods on GWBush.

Flynt: Because we have them and the truth is an absolute defense.

CNN; When and where are you going to publish information about George W. Bush?

Flynt: When I said that we had the proof, I am referring to knowing who the girl was, knowing who the doctor was that pereformed the abortion, evidence from girlfriends of hers at the time, who knew about the romance and the subsequent abortion. The young lady does not want to go public, and without her willingness, we don't feel that we're on solid enough legal ground to go with the story, because should she say it never happened, then we've got a potential libel suit. But we know we have enough evidence that we believe completely. One of the things that interested us was that this abortion took place before Roe Vs. Wade in 1970, which made it a crime at the time. I'd just like the national media to ask him if abortion is okay for him and his family, but not for the rest of America. We're not looking at it as a big issue, we're looking at it as a situation of people not being told the truth. I think the American people have a right to know everything there is to know about someone running for President.

AND MUCH MORE!!!!!!

[librechik]

28. ok, But I still don't think the Dems should dwell on this

anymore than the Pukkkes should have brought up Monica. I don't want to win like that, do you?

Anyway, maybe it's not possible for us to win. Then how would we feel that we turned into pimps like Larry Flynt for nothing? He's an effective champion for fringey 1st amendment rights, but we can't use him in the election, IMO

[papau]

30. I agree - It could've destroyed his credibility with media -but US media

is owned by right wing GOP who even have media types discussing the left wing bias in the media - LOL - but sad

Discussing the future takes longer to register in the polls - but is a better way to go.

:-)

[Joefess]

18. Kerry and Co. would have to be crazy not to use this news about Ben Barnes

Why aren't they jumping on this news already?

[louis c]

24. That picture in Salon of Bush

looks like a young Johnny Carson dressed as a Flying A gas attendant from the 50's.

[kskiska]

25. Why have these stories taken so long

to surface? All of a sudden, all the questions are being answered.

[LizW]

27. Because normal people are basically decent

This Mrs. Allison probably thought it would be better to let bygones be bygones. She gave W credit (undeserved) that he had changed and gotten his act together. She has probably known ever since W ran for his first public office that she had the goods on him and could ruin him if she wanted to, but she didn't do it. But after a while she started to choke on the hypocrisy of it all. Maybe when she finally saw him viciously attacking someone else for stuff that happened long ago, something snapped in her and she realized she couldn't keep quiet anymore.

I think we'll hear from more people soon. I lived in Mongtomery in the 80's and even then it was a small, close knit city. Old southern "society" is very big there. Knowing "connected" people is big there. I'll bet, unless GHWB and Bar put out orders to keep W hidden away, there are many people who recall meeting George Bush in Montgomery that year. I'll bet lots of people have stories to tell.

[johnfunk]

26. Can't wait for the motion picture: "Pissing On Cars With (Good Ol') Boys"

Leaving the election-night "celebration," Allison remembers encountering George W. Bush in the parking lot, urinating on a car, and hearing later about how he'd yelled obscenities at police officers that night. Bush left a house he'd rented in Montgomery trashed -- the furniture broken, walls damaged and a chandelier destroyed, the Birmingham News reported in February. "He was just a rich kid who had no respect for other people's possessions," Mary Smith, a member of the family who rented the house, told the newspaper, adding that a bill sent to Bush for repairs was never paid. And a month later, in December, during a visit to his parents' home in Washington, Bush drunkenly challenged his father to go "mano a mano," as has often been reported.

You've GOTTA read the whole article!

[kentuck]

32. The next paragraph says a lot about George W also...

<snip>
Around the same time, for the 1972 Christmas holiday, the Allisons met up with the Bushes on vacation in Hobe Sound, Fla. Tension was still evident between Bush and his parents. Linda was a passenger in a car driven by Barbara Bush as they headed to lunch at the local beach club. Bush, who was 26 years old, got on a bicycle and rode in front of the car in a slow, serpentine manner, forcing his mother to crawl along. "He rode so slowly that he kept having to put his foot down to get his balance, and he kept in a weaving pattern so we couldn't get past," Allison recalled. "He was obviously furious with his mother about something, and she was furious at him, too."

..more

[Stephanie]

29. a kick

:kick:

[Keirsey]

33. regarding the abortion allegation

Since the girl was only 15, wouldn't it be statutory rape?

[johnfunk]

34. Anyone know what the age of consent was in Texas back then...

... before the Bush Boy was sent to the Nanny State of Alabama?