Freeper Response to Latest Gallup: "Well, now I’m getting worried." Schadenfreude anyone?

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09.28.08 Gallup: O-50 M-42 Obama +8
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Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:02:58 PM by Perdogg

09.28.08 Gallup: O-50 M-42 Obama +8


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1 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:02:58 PM by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg
I just cannot believe people will elect a dumbhead for President



3 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:03:57 PM by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Perdogg
And Zogby has the tied.
Polls.........



4 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:04:17 PM by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: Perdogg
Wow, that is an impressive and decisive lead. So much for all the contorted arguments invented by people here. I think the bailout has hurt McCain, perhaps irreparably.



5 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:04:53 PM by nwrep
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To: Norman Bates
you were right.



6 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:04:59 PM by Perdogg (Vice President Sarah H Palin - Make it happen !!!!)
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To: Perdogg
Is this that “registered voters” crap, again?



7 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:05:39 PM by Cedric
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To: Perdogg
The political education of America is terrible. I see that even in people I know are otherwise very smart. Obama promises more to the people, and that’s all a lot of them need to know. Sadly.



8 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:05:42 PM by kc8ukw
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To: Perdogg
Pray for a miracle.



9 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:07:13 PM by Hattie
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To: Perdogg
weekend poll, still not out of the economic crisis, gallup always has bigger fluctuations, so dont go all wobbly.



10 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:07:17 PM by Canedawg (“If the law supposes that,” said Mr. Bumble,… “the law is a ass—a idiot.")
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To: Perdogg
I think it’s Barry’s lunch time.



11 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:07:28 PM by Rudder
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To: nwrep
Not if it's “registered voters”.
The Dems are in full flight retreat on the bailout, as we type.

Brilliant move by McCain!


12 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:07:36 PM by Cedric
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To: nwrep
I think the bailout has hurt McCain, perhaps irreparably.
It's not the bailout. It's the financial crisis. That lays on the doorstep of Bush and the Republicans. And it may not be fixable in a month.

If I had my tin hat handy I would accuse the Dems of orchestrating a September Surprise.


13 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:07:54 PM by InterceptPoint
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To: Perdogg
The United States has officially jumped the shark. Although there is a very large Obama number from Thursday that will drop off tomorrow, this number looks like Obama still won Saturday significantly (around 47-40).



14 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:08:15 PM by Azzurri
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To: Canedawg
it aint over yet. remember: mccain was always the underdog and a miracle he’s still around



15 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:08:42 PM by ari-freedom (Just let Sarah be Sarah!)
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To: Perdogg
The democrats are pinning this mess on Republicans and its working.



16 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:09:08 PM by linn37 (Hail Me, Obama or be cast into the fiery pits of eternal damnation!")
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To: kc8ukw
damn..
Republicans in general, and McCain in particlar, are not hitting Obama hard enough on who he is, who his friends are, and what he wants to give give give to the American people.
I think I need to go lay down..maybe till after the election.



17 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:09:16 PM by Lets Be Frank
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To: Perdogg
Well, now I’m getting worried.



18 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:09:18 PM by jokemoke
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To: Perdogg
Actually, I really like the Heritage Foundation’s Leadership for America campaign. I don’t know if it’ll work, but it’s the right idea. We’re reaching the point where conservatives will not be able to win elections even if we all get behind our candidates. Our problem is more basic than that. We need to reteach Americans about the philosophical principles that this nation was built on, and why they are the best.



19 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:09:22 PM by kc8ukw
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To: Perdogg
I the last 4 days it’s went from:

Thur: Even
Fri: O +3
Sat: O +5
Sun: O +8

It’s not the actual poll number that should concern everyone, it’s the direction and magnitude of the move.



20 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:09:29 PM by tatown (How to piss off a liberal: Work hard and be happy!)
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To: Perdogg
The problem here is that people blame the politicians that have been in power for this mess.

Rational or not, McCain is part of the Washington establishment so he gets the blame.

People are in an UGLY mood. They want CHANGE and are not rational enough to discern good change from bad change.



21 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:09:38 PM by EEDUDE
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To: yldstrk
people are like sheep. And dumb people will vote for whoever tells them what they want to hear. If I were to say that God is going to avenge the dead of abortion on a national level, anyone gonna listen? Historically, no. But I still have to warn them. It is their choice, and therefore, the judgment and consequences are justified.



22 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:10:28 PM by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: InterceptPoint
and Bush was responsible for encouraging homeownership as a key part of “compassionate conservatism.” I hate this.



23 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:10:39 PM by ari-freedom (Just let Sarah be Sarah!)
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To: Cedric
“Is this that “registered voters” crap, again?”

Yes, it’s registered voters. And Gallup weights their results, but unlike Rasmussen, Gallup does not publish how they manipulate the data.

Wizbang analysis of Gallup poll from a week ago:
“So, put it all together, and in the past week Obama has stayed steady or lost support in every party identification group, yet Gallup says his overall support went up four points. And McCain stayed steady or went up in every party identification group, yet we are supposed to accept the claim that his overall support went down by four points? Anyone have an answer for how that is even possible?

Well, actually I do. There is one, and only one, possible way that such a thing can happen mathematically. And that way, is that Gallup made major changes to the political affiliation weighting from the last week to now. Gallup has significantly increased the proportional weight of Democrat response and reduced the weight of Republican response. Bear in mind that this assumes that people change the foundation of their political opinion like a showgirl changes costumes, which has no scientific basis or historical support whatsoever.”

http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/09/19/how-liberal-trolls-are-working-to-get-mccain-elected-president.php



24 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:10:52 PM by frankjr
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To: Perdogg
Another FReeper posted yesterday that Gallup's 3 day rolling average had:
Wed: McCain 46, Obama 44%
Thurs: McCain 39%, Obama 56%
Fri: McCain 47%, Obama 47%

If true, then today's Gallup still has Thursday's OUTLIER included in the 3 day rolling average: Thurs, Fri, Saturday. Tomorrow's Gallup sould be more interesting without Thursday's huge outlier.


25 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:10:58 PM by avacado
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To: yldstrk
Neither can I. I’m just at a loss for words. This is the effect of the MSM on the public.

They have successfully covered up Obama’s marxist past, totally glossed over Rev. Wright anti-Americanism and racism and have the people brainwashed into believing that this whole Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac mess is the fault of the Republicans.

Obama is like teflon. We’re going to lose this election.



26 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:11:10 PM by faithinchaos ("You can put a flag pin on a marxist but he's still a marxist."---Jim Quinn)
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To: Perdogg
Obambi may just be the next president, but he will always be Chairman Mao to me.

I refuse to call this Marxist president.



27 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:11:25 PM by OpusatFR (UMD Russia Studies long before you were born.)
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To: InterceptPoint
If I had my tin hat handy I would accuse the Dems of orchestrating a September Surprise.
The Dems and Paulson (another Dem) have known this economic showdown was coming for nearly a year. The bill was concocted by them for just when they decided it should hit. They couldn't stop Palin so they pulled the trigger in Sept.

Time for reality.


28 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:11:26 PM by Hattie
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To: Perdogg
Bad economic news is always good for the Democrat



29 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:12:21 PM by flyfree (Biden is no Palin and Obama is no McCain)
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To: Perdogg
Well, Rasmussen and Gallup both showed Obama pulling away immediately after McCain suspended his campaign (in which he also pulled his ads).

As for the debate, the Sheeple may just be so pissed off with Republicans that all Obama had to do come ahead is not piss all over himself.

At this point, the media’s narrative will turn to Obama’s “big lead”. Any attack by McCain will be framed as “desperation.”

Still not over by a long shot.



30 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:12:33 PM by Chet 99
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To: Hattie
i mean come on...just right before an election. this is so stupid



31 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:12:35 PM by ari-freedom (Just let Sarah be Sarah!)
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To: Perdogg
There is something seriously wrong with this poll. The breakdown shows "pure independents" breaking for McCain by 4-6% more each time a new poll comes out.
The LIBS break left and the CONS break right has remained steady.

Since we cannot see the sample breakdown we need to adjust for oversampling of RATS by the Rass % of 6-9 pts.

McCain needs to stress that without SECURITY (a position he is well favored) there will be no ECONOMY ( a poition that he trails in)


32 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:13:37 PM by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I Love The Smell Of Schmidt Storm in the Morning...and Afternoon....and at Night!!!!!)
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To: Perdogg
Party ID: The Case for Weights and Historical Margins (Current polls all oversampling Dems)

33 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:13:46 PM by TonyInOhio (This is no time to go wobbly.)
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To: frankjr; All
Thanks.
No responsible polling agency puts out a “registered voters” poll this late in the game unless it's trying to deflate one side and buoy the other.


34 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:14:30 PM by Cedric
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To: EEDUDE
Rational or not, McCain is part of the Washington establishment so he gets the blame.
And Obama and Biden aren't?


35 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:14:51 PM by NonZeroSum
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To: Perdogg
This just tells me that the people living in this country aren’t as smart as they think they are.



36 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:14:53 PM by FlingWingFlyer (Obama - The Next Josef Stalin.)
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To: Perdogg
It looks like the “experience” angle isn’t the right tactic for either the Republicans or the Democrats - it simply hasn’t worked against either Obama or Palin. The McCain campaign hasn’t effectively tied Obama and the Democrats to the subprime mortgage crisis and somehow this Democratic mess is now associated in the minds of the public with the Republicans - incredible.



37 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:15:26 PM by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Perdogg
Well, I can see that this bogus, “registered voters” poll is having precisely the effect desired!



38 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:18:19 PM by Cedric
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Well, they’re not smart at all. They’ll get what they deserve if Zero wins, but unfortunately, we’ll get what they deserve too. He’s going to destroy this country if he gets the chance.



39 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:18:31 PM by GiveEmDubya (You go girl!)
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To: EEDUDE
The trend has been all Obama the last 2 weeks. McCain was up about 3 points 2 weeks ago. even a week ago, and now down 6-8 points. Athough I don’t think Obama truly has a 6-8 point lead, or will carry that through Nov, it is not great right now.

It is hard to believe when the dems were 80% responsible for this financial crisis, that McCain is getting the blame. Bush and McCain have been calling for reform of the financial system since 2002. They have sponsored hearings and bills. The democrats have said for 8 years, there is no crisis. This is all clearly documented. Yet Bush/McCain get the blame.

We have got to get a bailout bill signed to calm the markets. That will relieve some of the fear Americans have right now. Also, it will allow McCain and the 527’s to go on attack to show who really caused this mess. Until the financial news if off the radar screen, McCain cannot get his messages out.

Keep the faith everyone. We still have 5 weeks to go, and that is a long time in politics. I remember in 2000 around 7:40pm on election night, thinking it was over when they called Florida for Gore. But things have a way of working out. In my heart, I just cannot believe that America will elect the most liberal inexperienced politician of the last 100 years.



40 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:18:46 PM by gswilder
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To: yldstrk
I've been trying to warn folks, but to no avail.
Nobama had to meet a certain threshold, but most here are too partisan to see he met it. After the last 8 years, that bar has been lowered. The economy sucks, and a lot of people don't like this war.

Nobama spoke well without a teleprompter. He articulated the liberal view pretty well, and unless a miracle happens, I think people are going to vote for that liberal view.

We need to be out canvassing our neighborhoods and manning the phones instead of talking here.

In my case, I'm in a very red state, so I'm emailing everyone I know who lives in blue states making the very best case I can make. I'm going to see if I can work phone banks to other states.


41 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:19:22 PM by Texas_shutterbug
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To: Perdogg
If this is true then we will have elected a Marxist for president and we can be expected to be carted off to the gulags and reeducation camps. Won’t be long until we are made into soap and our skin into lampshades. This is the Third Reich all over again right here in Obama’s New America. Fascist to the core.



42 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:19:24 PM by RichardW
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To: Perdogg
Didn't Gallup have McCain up by 10 points just a few weeks ago?
You can put whatever spin you want on it,,,,

but it has been an absolutely incredible shift to Hussein.


43 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:19:39 PM by stockstrader (VOTE DEMOCRATIC--it's so much easier than thinking.)
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To: avacado
Sorry but I not buying the outlier theory anymore. I have been hearing for a week here now, that the 2 day ago outlier would drop off. However, Obama is continuing to grow his lead.



44 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:20:52 PM by gswilder
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To: Cedric
I hope you are joking. Even a registered voter lead that is expanding every day is worrisome. The general direction of all polls points to a blowout victory by the Obama machine.



45 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:21:46 PM by nwrep
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To: Texas_shutterbug
Nobama spoke well without a teleprompter. He articulated the liberal view pretty well, and unless a miracle happens, I think people are going to vote for that liberal view.
Exactly. Independents were looking only at 'body language'--and NOT at the issues or what was spoken.

That is precisely why I think these 'so-called' debates are a joke--because the gulf between the parties has never been bigger....

and who does better at 'performance art'--should have very little to do with who is elected. Sad. Very sad.


46 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:22:05 PM by stockstrader (VOTE DEMOCRATIC--it's so much easier than thinking.)
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To: ari-freedom
The Sheeple may vote for Obama. If they do, I place most of the blame on the Republican party. The stupid party has allowed the Democrats to set the agenda and have for the past 8 years played nice. Obama and company are not interested in playing nice-they want to win to obtain power and control of our lives.
It's not over-we have 2 more debates between McCain and Obama and we have debate between Palin and Biden. We also have the NRA ads coming. I am not optimistic but I am not ready to concede.
Also, like many Freepers, I now only give time and money to conservative candidates. I hung up on a caller from the Maine Republican Party the other day. I am nice guy but I have had it with the Republican Party, local, state, and national

47 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:22:05 PM by Maine Mariner
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To: stockstrader
It's not helping with the base 1. this bail out and 2. the fact the Palin is MIA and when she is allowed to speak she's only allowed to repeat the same ten inane lines.
They don't call the GOP the Stupid Party for nothing.

[saltpoint]

1. Their worry is justified because they're going to get their

butts kicked.

[jefferson_dem]

5. As it should be, Old Crusoe.

:thumbsup:

[Mz Pip]

2. Good.

He should be worried. It's a new dawn and peole like him can either evolve or crawl back under their rocks.

[Jennicut]

3. Some of them are legitimately worried. Not good for McTroll when the Freepers think you are tanking.

[Happyhippychick]

4. Someone called Obama a "dumbhead"? Now that hurts.

[Bicoastal]

8. What will we do when they call Obama Mr.Poopypants?

[Happyhippychick]

20. Ouch. They're such meanies.

[CitizenLeft]

33. it's astounding, isn't it?

A former pres of the Harvard Law Review and a constitutional law professor at a major institution is a "dumbhead." I really don't know what to say about that. I can't fathom someone's ability to delude themselves that drastically.

And that Marxist theme is just hysterical.

And... the issues? Most people AGREE with Obama on the issues - the only thing he had to overcome was that incessant "is he presidential enough" question, which was never a question for me.

They are genuinely braindead, not a single active neuron in evidence.

[OKNancy]

6. I enjoy their pain, but I think it is a lesson for all of us

at DU too. Sometimes we get way crazy about a dip in the polls.
LOL - but as long as it is them and not us, I'm pretty satisfied.

BTW- thanks for all the thoughtful and useful posts you make here jeff.dem

[kirby]

7. Apparently DUers and Freepers have common ground...

"I just cannot believe people will elect a dumbhead for President" - yldstrk

[Cassandra]

18. I can believe it.

Those dumbasses think Bush is a cowboy hero. Oy!

[BlooInBloo]

9. It's funny when idiots call smart people "dumbhead"s

[RichGirl]

10. No Schadenfreude!

Karma's a bitch!

Let's just be grateful and happy that we are ahead and we have the best damn candidate ever!!!

[deadparrot]

11. "I just cannot believe people will elect a dumbhead for President"

Indeed.



Indeed. :rofl:

[Liberal_in_LA]

47. LOL n/t

[FatDave]

67. Yeah, I was thinking "well I have proof that they will"

[Starry Messenger]

12. But is that "pre-bracelet"?

LOL. Suck it Freepers.

[pdxmom]

13. Here is the scariest one:

"We need to reteach Americans about the philosophical principles that this nation was built on, and why they are the best."

They are actually calling for re-education camps!

[PatGund]

27. They don't seem to understand.....

That the philosophical principles this nation was built on bear NO simularity to the NeoCon agenda.

If you reteach Americans those principles, the GOP has it exists today would fade out of existence.

[Webster Green]

14. Idiots!

I love this brilliant insight:
"The problem here is that people blame the politicians that have been in power for this mess." :rofl:

[Boojatta]

28. Benito Mussolini should have used that line shortly before he met his maker.

[1corona4u]

41. LOL, DUH....

stupid asses.

[FVZA_Colonel]

15. I don't believe in Revenge, but I have no problem with Schadenfreude.

This is wonderful.

[samsingh]

16. the irony of freeper idiots saying

"I just cannot believe people will elect a dumbhead for President"

yup
that's what we think about imbeciles supporting mccain and pallin.

how can freepers be sooo stupid?

[Guava Jelly]

17. These guys are fuc_en whackos!

"people are like sheep. And dumb people will vote for whoever tells them what they want to hear. If I were to say that God is going to avenge the dead of abortion on a national level, anyone gonna listen? Historically, no. But I still have to warn them. It is their choice, and therefore, the judgment and consequences are justified."

This guy is on to something. He should purchase a mirror

[hey560]

19. *SHUDDERS* That website is full of very scary people.

[LongTomH]

59. Great name for a Freeper: Norman Bates

Oh My God.............Motherrrr!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Matariki]

21. Wouldn't it be funny if ALL BUT THREE Freepers were really trolls from DU

pretending to be idiots? All aguing with other DUers pretending to be idiots...

:rofl:

[vaberella]

23. I had that feeling. About two posters there seemed to be undercover. n/t

[1corona4u]

42. Uh, yeah, so did I...

:-) Must be hard to pretend to be an idiot freeper. And you have to purposely misspell words too...so as not to blow your cover. :rofl:

[vaberella]

53. hahahaha....

:rofl: too true. I just noticed a bit of logic seeping through and I was like...wtf?!

[janx]

55. It's not as hard as you think!

;-)

I did it for years, and once I ran into another DUer there who was doing the same thing. But you're right about purposeful misspellings, yes.

[vaberella]

22. Got to love this: "Republicans in general, and McCain in particlar, ...

are not hitting Obama hard enough on who he is, who his friends are,"

I really like this for several reasons. Do you want to go there? Because we have McCain's little friends in the Keating 5, we have Rick Davis----running around ad nauseum. We have a crazy witch hunting priest for Governor Palin. I'd love to get into a debate on friends. They should have held on to Rev. Wright in hiding until now. Obama managed to clear the air and people sort of forgot that drama.

Bring it up and we'll bring up the others. As far as who he is? McCain voted on torture, he voted always against Vets, he doesn't believe in social welfare programs, he thinks the fundamentals of our economy is good and believes in excessive troop force to the point of reinstating the draft. Yet, this is all well and good?!

Not for the logically thinking American people.

[PatGund]

24. *chuckle*

"I just cannot believe people will elect a dumbhead for President'

Well, they elected Reagan and Bush the younger, so I'd say believe it.

[Boojatta]

25. That was a big chunk of text! I noticed this little part:

"If I were to say that God is going to avenge the dead of abortion on a national level, anyone gonna listen?"

I'm wondering how we know that the cause of divine wrath isn't people making graven images, bowing down to them, and serving them?

[adamuu]

26. that's too much freep

its stuck to my shoe

next time, post less of it.

:)

[Giant Robot]

29. Somebody wake them up and tell them the cold war is over

The bad guys are not Marxists any more. Please come join us the the 21st century. I promise it will not hurt.

[PerfectSage]

30. If I was a freeper I'd be worried by the Gallop, Raz, Hotline and DkosR2000 national tracking polls.

:bounce:

[MadrasT]

31. "Ahhhhhh"....

I feel so much better now. Nothing better than freeper meltdowns. :popcorn:

[regnaD kciN]

32. Huh...?

No responsible polling agency puts out a “registered voters” poll this late in the game unless it's trying to deflate one side and buoy the other.

:wtf:

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

34. I love the smell of freeper meltdown in morning...

[regnaD kciN]

35. And then there's this...

If this is true then we will have elected a Marxist for president and we can be expected to be carted off to the gulags and reeducation camps. Won’t be long until we are made into soap and our skin into lampshades. This is the Third Reich all over again right here in Obama’s New America. Fascist to the core.

Uh...guys? It isn't our side that's imposed suspension of habeus corpus and written into law the ability of the President to lock up anyone for life without charges or trial...

And the notion that Obama is both "Marxist" and "Fascist" is really amusing. You do realize those are polar opposites, don't you? Kind of like "militant Religious-Right atheist."

:crazy:

[JustAnotherGen]

63. DITTO!

:crazy: Was going to post the same thing. You beat me to it! :rofl:

[VAliberal]

36. Reading those comments

from FR is like reading the rants and blather from an insane asylum.

[janx]

37. That thread is still going!

:kick:

[Captiosus]

38. I defer to the wisdom of "Avenue Q: The Musical"

Schadenfreude!

GARY COLEMAN:
Right now you are down and out and feeling really crappy

NICKY:
I'll say.

GARY COLEMAN:
And when I see how sad you are
It sort of makes me...
Happy!

NICKY:
Happy?!

GARY COLEMAN:
Sorry, Nicky, human nature-
Nothing I can do!
It's...
Schadenfreude!
Making me feel glad that I'm not you.

NICKY:
Well that's not very nice, Gary!

GARY COLEMAN:
I didn't say it was nice! But everybody does it!

D'ja ever clap when a waitress falls and drops a tray of glasses?

NICKY:
Yeah...

GARY COLEMAN:
And ain't it fun to watch figure skaters falling on their asses?

NICKY:
Sure!

GARY COLEMAN:
And don'tcha feel all warm and cozy,
Watching people out in the rain!

NICKY:
You bet!

GARY COLEMAN:
That's...

GARY AND NICKY:
Schadenfreude!

GARY COLEMAN:
People taking pleasure in your pain!

NICKY:
Oh, Schadenfreude, huh?
What's that, some kinda Nazi word?

GARY COLEMAN:
Yup! It's German for "happiness at the misfortune of others!"

NICKY:
"Happiness at the misfortune of others." That is German!

Watching a vegetarian being told she just ate chicken

GARY COLEMAN:
Or watching a frat boy realize just what he put his dick in!

NICKY:
Being on the elevator when somebody shouts "Hold the door!"

GARY AND NICKY:
"No!!!"
Schadenfreude!

GARY COLEMAN:
"Fuck you lady, that's what stairs are for!"

NICKY:
Ooh, how about...
Straight-A students getting Bs?

GARY COLEMAN:
Exes getting STDs!

NICKY:
Waking doormen from their naps!

GARY COLEMAN:
Watching tourists reading maps!

NICKY:
Football players getting tackled!

GARY COLEMAN:
CEOs getting shackled!

NICKY:
Watching actors never reach

GARY AND NICKY:
The ending of their oscar speech!
Schadenfreude!
Schadenfreude!
Schadenfreude!
Schadenfreude!

GARY COLEMAN:
The world needs people like you and me who've been knocked around by fate.
'Cause when people see us, they don't want to be us, and that makes them feel great.

NICKY:
Sure!
We provide a vital service to society!

GARY AND NICKY:
You and me!
Schadenfreude!
Making the world a better place...
Making the world a better place...
Making the world a better place...
To be!

GARY COLEMAN:
S-C-H-A-D-E-N-F-R-E-U-D-E!

[PermanentRevolution]

39. Schadenfreude is wrong...

Yet so, so satisfying!

:evilgrin:

[1corona4u]

40. LOL, "he's going to destroy this country"..

NEWSFLASH FREEPERS; THE COUNTRY IS ALREADY DISTROYED, AND BY THE HANDS OF YOUR PRESIDENT!!

Talk about who's stupid...

[Critters2]

43. I especially love this one:

"If this is true then we will have elected a Marxist for president and we can be expected to be carted off to the gulags and reeducation camps. Won’t be long until we are made into soap and our skin into lampshades. This is the Third Reich all over again right here in Obama’s New America. Fascist to the core."

We're both Marxist and fascist!! My God, we're a clever bunch! Run little freepers! Run! :rofl:

[TNMOM]

44. Fascist?! Now, that is rich. These people are unbelieveable

They vote in the worse president ever. He makes mistake after mistake, and still they think the GOP is all that? I agree with the poster who said the GOp is the "stupid party."

[alcibiades_mystery]

45. WORK HARDER!!!! Schadenfreude ONLY ON NOVEMBER 5

Go go go!!!!

Stop oogling the idiots and donate, phone bank, walk. Do it!!!!

[kevinds13]

46. Elect a "dumbhead" ????

WTF are they talking about. Nothing makes me happier than seeing them squirm and realize that THEY caused this economic mess and THEY get to reap the consequences.

[high density]

56. The Freeps are worried that Obama and the Dems "want to control their lives"

And what has Bush been doing to us? He's definitely been controlling in regards to ignoring our own country and its infrastructure for blowing up others. I guess most of these people are more anti-Democrats than anything else. They don't particularly strike me as "conservative" in the standard sense of the word. I have an "anti-Democrat" coworker that can't explain why he feels that way but he's not going to change his philosophy.

[CatsDogsBabies]

48. The McCain is always the underdog - it's a miracle he is still around

comment was pretty funny. Not a vote a confidence - it sounded like he was emphasizing that McCain loses.

[Goat or Panic]

49. "I just cannot believe people will elect a dumbhead for President'

That's "elitist" dumbhead to you freeper.

[alcibiades_mystery]

58. Not to mention a meany poopieface

What the flying fuck is wrong with those people?

[Tatiana]

50. HILARIOUS! "People are in an UGLY mood. They want CHANGE..."

:rofl:

No shit, morans!

[high density]

51. Freeps seem to forget that Obama was an "underdog" too

And came out of nowhere to take down the largest name in Dem politics.

[calico1]

52. They do not live among us...

they live in some bizarre parallel universe.

That's the only thing that can explain this.

[johnfunk]

54. UPDATE: more SERIES replies!!!!1 It's HUGH!!!11 and no TROOLing, please

To: Perdogg

I think it is time to quote Peggy Noonan “It’s over”

52 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:23:57 PM by GWB00 (Barbara Streisand barely made it out of high school.)

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To: yldstrk
>> I just cannot believe people will elect a dumbhead for President

Let's face it, history is NOT on our side.

Historically, if the economy is bad ( as it is now ), the incumbent President's party tends to lose.

Ford lost to Carter because of the 1974-75 recession. Carter lost to Reagan because of the 70's stagflation. Bush sr. lost to the slimeball slick one because of the 1991 recession. Gore lost to Bush Jr because of the Dot Com bubble.

Ask yourself, where are we in right now economically ?
53 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:24:49 PM by SeekAndFind

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To: GWB00
>> I think it is time to quote Peggy Noonan “It’s over”

It may be, however, I suggest you look up Peggy's explanation of that comment.
54 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:25:28 PM by stockstrader (VOTE DEMOCRATIC--it's so much easier than thinking.)

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To: Maine Mariner

man I wish we had people like david cameron or stephen harper.

55 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:25:28 PM by ari-freedom (Just let Sarah be Sarah!)

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To: avacado; kesg; tatown; mathprof

So Obama won Saturday 47-40. Hell, that’s still +7.

57 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:26:05 PM by Perdogg (Vice President Sarah H Palin - Make it happen !!!!)

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To: stockstrader; kesg

that was the likely voter pole, this is an RV

58 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:27:18 PM by Perdogg (Vice President Sarah H Palin - Make it happen !!!!)

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To: SeekAndFind
No question about it. People debate all issues in their 'bartalk',,,,

but when it comes down to it....

they vote ONLY ONE ISSUE--THEIR POCKETBOOKS!!!

The economy is all that matters to most people. Period. Just ask Slick.

P.S. Heck, the WOT isn't even a major factor now to many people--it's like 9/11 never happened. Sigh.
59 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:28:05 PM by stockstrader (VOTE DEMOCRATIC--it's so much easier than thinking.)

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To: stockstrader
It wasn't just body language and performance - people are mad about the war, and mad about the economy, and when that happens, the incumbent party generally loses.

And when Palin debates Biden the gaffer, it will get worse. Biden has a way of putting his foot in his mouth on stupid stuff like FDR and the television set, but he will still know more about his liberal view point than Palin will and he will be able to articulate that pretty well. Palin is going to be a bundle of nerves. Speaking in front of fifty million people without a teleprompter would scare the SHIT out of me! LOL

Wait until next Monday's polls. Then, we'll really know how much work we have to do. Do we have a group here willing to work in a swing state? My state is already red, so I might go to Louisiana. I think it's still in the "maybe" category.
60 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:29:11 PM by Texas_shutterbug

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To: Perdogg
The text below from today's Gallup release would tend to make me believe that the current 3 day rolling average does include a rather large Obama day as some are guessing because they point that Obama maintained a lead in yesterday's polling is all that they say. Having said that, IF this does not go down by multiple points in the next couple days then it is truly worrisome regardless of likely voter vs. registered, Bradley effect, etc.

The full impact of the debate and its aftermath will not be reflected in the tracking data until Tuesday's report, which will be based on interviewing conducted Saturday, Sunday, and Monday. Still, Gallup's one-day read on the standing of the two candidates on Saturday suggests that Obama held the lead over McCain among registered voters that night, just as he had for the two previous nights.
63 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:30:24 PM by bcatwilly (West Virginia is McCain-Palin Country!)

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To: Perdogg

For more than a week now I’ve been saying that McCain is in trouble. Once you give up momentum, it’s hard to get it back, especially with the entire MSM on your side.

67 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:32:21 PM by tatown (How to piss off a liberal: Work hard and be happy!)

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To: tatown

I still think there is an October suprise coming! ;)

70 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:33:21 PM by TapsBrowning

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To: tatown
>> Once you give up momentum, it’s hard to get it back, especially with the entire MSM on your side.

Exactly! Changing momentum (because you are talking millions of votes here) is like the cliche'--turning a battleship. It takes a lot of effort and a long time.
71 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:34:26 PM by stockstrader (VOTE DEMOCRATIC--it's so much easier than thinking.)

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To: Texas_shutterbug

People are mad? Then this country will get exactly what it deserves in Obama. Having Obama as president and a Democrat congress in control will be payback for the morons who voted for them.

74 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:35:16 PM by David1

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To: Cedric
Come on, man, be reasonable. You are not going to change the facts by yelling or increasing font size. If it is any comfort to you, know that you are not alone, and I know you mean well. Unfortunately, these are exactly the kinds of responses that well-meaning and overly optimistic people made here in the early fall of 2006. In fact, they used some of the same rationalizations.

I know a Congressional election is not the same as a Presidential election, but I just want to remind everyone of this.

Denying reality will not alter reality. There is no way there is a double digit gap between registered and likely voters, especially in a year when the Democrats have more enthusiasm.

You can make a different argument, a more plausible one, which is that we still have more than a month to go, and things can change. However, please do not deny that if the election were held today, Obama would win easily.
75 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:35:25 PM by nwrep

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To: Cedric
>>John McCain singlehandedly stopped the first bailout bill!

The Reid, Pelosi and the entire democratic party ATTACK MACHINE blamed him for it--with the able assistance of the MSM,,,,

while 'piling on' him--accusing him of ducking the debates.

Only if he says "THIS BAILOUT SHALL NOT STAND"--will he get any credit. But at this point--he would never, ever take that kind of risk.

It's now lose/lose for McCain.
76 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:37:16 PM by stockstrader (VOTE DEMOCRATIC--it's so much easier than thinking.)

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To: Cedric
>> “McCain will do at least 8% better among “likely voters”.”

>> “Get a grip, you’re being played!”

Yes we are being played. Psyco warfare at it's finest.
77 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:37:18 PM by scratcher

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To: nwrep
"....especially in a year when the Democrats have more enthusiasm.

The most important 'operative words' when discussing this (and all) polls this year.
81 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:38:58 PM by stockstrader (VOTE DEMOCRATIC--it's so much easier than thinking.)

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To: Lets Be Frank
>> I think I need to go lay down..maybe till after the election.

As long as you get back up long enough to vote.
82 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:39:33 PM by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)

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To: All

It will take about 5 days to get a new read. Wall Street will fall off the radar screen and the big sampling nights for Obama will roll off.

But make no mistake. McCain has lost 5-7% of his support, and it didn’t come off the far right. Only the middle is willing to change their minds. He has to win the middle back, mostly women, and that means health care, the economy and oil (which he could tie to Iraq).

No red meat for the right. Those are not the votes that flipped.

84 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:40:56 PM by Owen

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To: yldstrk

As discouraging as this news is, I will not let it disuade me from my beliefs, values, and love for my country. Much can and will happen over the next few weeks and we can only control so much of it. McCain is a great campaigner and I know he will not give up. This election isn’t over yet.

Now, should the worst happen and should Obama be elected, it will not be the end of this country. I am so sick of hearing the mantra from the left and I can’t stand hearing it from the right. The left has bitched and moaned for 8 years about President Bush. If they think they can do better, have at it. The American people will be watching. So go get ‘em Dems, give it your best shot.

As I said before, the election isn’t over. Did you really think McCain was just gonna skate into the Whitehouse? The idea is foolish. If he wants it he needs to fight for it and so do we.

85 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:41:34 PM by ShandaLear (Barack Obama, he is the Kwisatz Haderach!)

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To: stockstrader

Wrong.

The DBM and the Dems, blamed McCain for stopping the original bill, a POS that 80% of the public was against.

How’s that a loser for McCain?

86 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:41:39 PM by Cedric

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To: Perdogg
>> "So Obama won Saturday 47-40. Hell, that’s still +7."

Damn, you're right. I hadn't done the math, but that does put Obama at +7 for Saturday. Ouch!!! What is wrong with America!
87 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:42:00 PM by avacado

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To: grobdriver

>>Oh..yeah. but, since I’m in Illinois does it really matter?

j/k..of course I’ll be voting against the radical socialist.

88 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:42:53 PM by Lets Be Frank

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To: Perdogg

Why is it not seen as the Democrats and the evil Bush are in alignment on this one? Each for their own reasons.

Puke me.

89 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:42:54 PM by indylindy

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To: Proudcongal

Ya, I didn’t wanna say it, but I smell sleeper trolls.

90 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:43:17 PM by Cedric

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To: Cedric

It’s a loser if he then supports THIS bailout—as if the difference between the two is really THAT big!!!!

91 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:44:23 PM by stockstrader (VOTE DEMOCRATIC--it's so much easier than thinking.)

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To: faithinchaos
Obama is like teflon. We’re going to lose this election.

Don't you have a feale relative you can get hysterical with?
92 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:44:25 PM by Stentor (Obama is Bill Ayers' Renfield.)

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To: kesg
>> McCain's only mistake this week was asking to suspend the debate

No kidding.

I got into my car just as they were going to a commercial and all I heard was...."suspending campaign and canceling the debate", and I thought, "Alright....Obama's chickening out and will look like a coward trying to duck McCain!"

Then after the break....."Uh oh".
93 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:44:44 PM by eddie willers

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To: indylindy

McCain has brilliantly tied the Dems to Bush on this!!!

94 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:45:17 PM by Cedric

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To: stockstrader

>> “they vote ONLY ONE ISSUE—THEIR POCKETBOOKS!!!”

Then expect all the polls to swing the other way after the next debate. PORKER OBAMA has no defense for his enormous spending. How can he explain spending $950 million in taxpayer’s money on his special little projects? That is the kind of stuff that flames out the working people.

95 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:45:21 PM by scratcher

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To: nwrep
>> However, please do not deny that if the election were held today, Obama would win easily.

I for one do NOT believe that even today Obama would win this election easily. It is hard to argue that he wouldn't win if it were held today, but I still think it would be pretty close for various reasons:

* He is black (can't be ignored for some impact)
* Even one of the most favorable polls to Obama post debate still had a 12% advantage to McCain on who is more ready to be President. I think that there will still be some voting booth conversions to McCain on this point.
* I think that Christians are going to come out in greater numbers than some think due to abortion and quite frankly the rumors of his Muslim faith.

So my 2 cents, which isn't worth much I realize, is that IF McCain can even be right at the margin of error in final pre-election polls then there is a chance of him pulling it out. Yes, I would be terrified if all polls showed at least a small Obama lead at the end, but not out of the question to win if in that range. The current state does not appear to have it right at that range though, so he probably would win if held today.


96 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:45:28 PM by bcatwilly (West Virginia is McCain-Palin Country!)

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To: Cedric

Well, you know, I agree, but do you hear that being hammered home anywhere?

97 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:46:33 PM by indylindy

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To: EEDUDE

Well if the GOP was out there every minute slamming the Democrats on it then we would be at least at parity if not ahead but this gentleman not going to politicize the bailout crap when the Democrats who created this mess are blaming the GOP falsely. I’m tired of the gutless suit and tie GOP. I’m tired. I’m proud of our Congressional Republicans but we need to turn this around and I don’t give a damn how we do it. We need to be in Obama’s face any chance we can. We need to be in the face of the Press any chance we get. We need a 527 dedicated to hitting the Democrats on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Why we don’t have anything is crazy. We haven’t lost this. We have plenty of time to get things back where they should be but this battle is not going to be won by pretending everything is fine.

98 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:46:41 PM by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")

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To: stockstrader

Then McCain can stop this one, too.

No bailout will pass until and unless McCain says so.

99 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:47:37 PM by Cedric

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To: nwrep

According to my non-political, in college daughter, a vote for the big ZERO is a wasted vote cuz he may not be around long after being elected. I guess this is what is being tossed around at her Calif. school.

100 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:48:23 PM by yadent
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[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

60. If only this would came true...

To: stockstrader

Then McCain can stop this one, too.

No bailout will pass until and unless McCain says so.

99 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:47:37 PM by Cedric

Yeah McDouche! Stop IT!
:rofl:

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

64. Looks like there are a few DU moles

on that thread. :)

[PermanentRevolution]

65. Are we counting Louisiana as a swing state?

'Cause it sounds like they are...

"Do we have a group here willing to work in a swing state? My state is already red, so I might go to Louisiana. I think it's still in the "maybe" category."

[Kalyke]

66. 9/11, 9/11, 9/11

P.S. Heck, the WOT isn't even a major factor now to many people--it's like 9/11 never happened. Sigh.

No, you idiot. We all know it happened, but we haven't figured out how invading a sovereign nation that had nothing to do with 9/11 was appropriate. We haven't figured out why they haven't captured bin Laden. However, we have figured out that spending trillions of dollars on a war that isn't necessary is breaking America's economy.

[Curtland1015]

57. Bwahahahaha! Watch 'em squirm!!!

:rofl:

[renie408]

61. The GOP has 'played nice' for the past eight years...WTF?

Has this guy ever heard of Karl Rove?

The disconnect is bizarre.

[rosesaylavee]

62. I am so confused. What kind of policies are they accusing Obama of promoting?

Fascism or Marxism? Our educational system has certainly failed this group if they think those philosophies are interchangeable.

These poor little boys. Some of them actually think they will be carted off to a gulag if he wins? What a sad sad thing that is.