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Vote2008 Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:27 PM
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Please talk me down from Quaylin "Faking It" in the Charlie/Katie Interviews
I am not usually a "It's a trap' person but is it possible Quaylin is playing stupid so that the press and people are saying "Biden Will Crush her" and "She will be destroyed" and then hen she does horrible but better than anyone expected she will look great?

Also, I think the not doing interviews is also setting up people for the debate. Lowering expectations.

I guess I just think NO ONE could do as bad as she has done unless they were doing it on purpose.

I have seen other debates on YouTube and she was not horrible.

Is she really that incompetent? Is that really possible?






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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:29 PM
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1. What would be the logic behind jerking the country around?!
Do you really think people would be all like "ohhh, she only PRETENDED to not know anything. That Sarah, such an adorable kidder!"

No. I dont think so. Nobody likes to get played for a fool. Regular Joes and MSM included.

That would be political suicide. Period.

Yes, she's really that incompetent.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:04 PM
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23. LOL! she's SUCH a kidder. Anyhow, about 50% of public think she's equal to Biden in debate
ability so it doesn't even matter.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:55 PM
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24. 50% ?!
:banghead: This country is so screwn.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:29 PM
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2. calm down... she is truly, surely, 100% stupid
It's not an act
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:01 PM
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22. She couldnt even get a cheesesteak without screwing McCain, see #20 Shes just that dense.
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 01:02 PM by Boz
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:30 PM
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3. How's this? No, she wasn't faking, but no Biden probably won't crush her, either.
I know that's a mixed bag but the format of the debate doesn't allow for detailed responses like the presidential debate did. This one will be a 90 second response to questions then a 2 minute allowed rebuttal. Even palin can parrot a 90 second talking point then repeat it during a rebuttal. She won't do well, but it's not going to be the wipe out everyone here thinks it will be.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:31 PM
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6. They had to protect her because they know she can't handle long responses
All Joe has to do is just give a good detailed responses and see if Palin can keep up.
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:36 PM
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15. Yep. Palin ended up being an albatross around mcsame's neck.
They're spending so much time and resources on keeping her from screwing up that she's become a drag on the ticket.

First rule of picking a VP: "Do no harm". Mcsame's Hail Mary didn't work and leaves voters wondering if they want a presidency that sees every challenge as a craps shoot.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:36 PM
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14. I agree--I certainly wouldn't build expectations for a Biden blowout or a
Palin failure, simply because she will go in as the underdog and people will cut her a lot of slack and will be rooting for her. If she manages to stick to stump-speech soundbites, she'll do OK.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:57 PM
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20. Heres an easy way she spent 15 minutes getting a cheesesteak Saturday AND McCain had to retract
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 12:59 PM by Boz
what she said in a full blown press release and statement on Stephanopolous today saying she said it but its not HER standing on the policy BECAUSE IT SUPPORTED OBAMAS POSITION and was what he and McCain had sparred about during the debate.

WE GOT NO WORRIES, its not a trap, shes really that unprepeared.

As Palin was glad handling, a man named Michael Rovito, wearing a Temple University t-shirt, approached Palin
“How about the Pakistan situation?" he asked her. "What’s your thoughts about that.”
“In Pakistan?” she asked.
“What’s going on over there," Rovito said, "like Waziristian?”
“It’s working with Zardari to make sure that we’re all working together to stop the guys from coming in over the border," Palin responded. "And we’ll go from there.”
“Waziristan is blowing up!” exclaimed Rovito.
“Yeah it is," said Palin, "and the economy there is blowing up too.”
“So we do cross the border," he asked, "like from Afghanistan to Pakistan, you think?”
“If that’s what we have to do stop the terrorists from coming any further in," she said, "absolutely, we should.”


......

Today on This Week, George Stephanopoulos asked Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., if what Palin said in any way contradicted McCain's criticism of Obama for saying aloud that -- if given actionable intelligence about high-level al Qaeda targets in Pakistan -- the U.S. should strike at targets within Pakistan with or without that government's permission.

"That seems very similar," George said after playing the Palin quote. "She's asked, 'Do we have to cross the border from Afghanistan to Pakistan?' She says, 'If that's what we have to do stop the terrorists from coming any further in, absolutely, we should.'"

McCain said that Palin "shares my view that we will do whatever is necessary. The problem is, you don't announce it. You don't -- you don't say to the Pakistanis, 'We're coming in unilaterally and carry out operations.' Teddy Roosevelt, speak softly but carry a big stick. She shares my view on that. That's just -- that's fundamentals of knowledge and maturity and judgment."

"But she did say there right there we should go in," George said.

"She was in a conversation with some young man that -- or whoever it was," McCain said. "She understands and has stated repeatedly that we're not going to do anything except in America's national security interest and we are not going to, quote, 'announce it ahead of time.' That is -- the important part of it is that you do what you have to do, working with these countries, but to announce you're going to attack another country is not a mature way to address the issue."



http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/grabbing-a-chee.html
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:30 PM
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4. But, remember the prior debates were about Alaskan issues.
This debate is about foreign policy and domestic issues that she has to memorize answers (talking points) about.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:31 PM
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5. ITSAROVIANTRICK!!!! WEREDOOOOOMED!!!!! (Stupid disclaimers notwithstanding.)
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Vote2008 Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:32 PM
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7. Why be a jerk about it???
I was serious. I honestly don't think anyone could do as bad as she has. Why be an ass?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:35 PM
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11. Because you were serious.
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Vote2008 Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:36 PM
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13. Wow, maybe someday I'll be smart as you! Jackass!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:40 PM
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17. Then you'll be average. Dare to dream.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:42 PM
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19. I agree...while running around my apartment naked.
:eyes: I couldn't believe people are seriously worried either.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:34 PM
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8. That's bizarre.
Whatever positive effects might arise from her performing above expectations in the debate cannot offset the high negatives she already picked up in the interviews. Also, her performance in the interviews is perfectly consistent with what we know of her. She's a bubbleheaded, ignorant narcissist with delusions of adequacy, and it comes shining through.
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Vote2008 Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:35 PM
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12. That is a good point. Except I think the average person only remembers the last thing people do.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:34 PM
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9. She has never had to learn much and so she didn't.
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 12:35 PM by Old Crusoe
Not knowing much, she's chosen as a potential leader of the country.

Katie Couric, who is by no means the most penetrative interviewer out there, made Palin look like a vacuous bimbo. Dan Quayle at least had the sense to pad his audiences with color-coded index cards so he would know which hands to pick for "friendly" questions.

Palin appears to have far less political acumen than Quayle, and Quayle was still pathetic. No associative intelligence at all.

Palin is one of the kids from high school who doesn't like History because it's boring. Biden is a valedictorian who believes we all have a debt owed to those who've come before us. The gap between these two is enormous and reflects very well on Obama and very poorly on McCain.

Tom Ridge is a dullard but he could have at least answered Couric's questions. Romney is a psycho-creepazoid, but he would have at least been in the ballgame. Rob Portman would have given flat-spirited but more or less coherent responses. Huckabee would have done better than any of these others, albeit with a folksy, evangelical spin.

Palin couldn't handle the underhand pitches from Couric because she doesn't know much.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:35 PM
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10. Unlikely...
Why would anyone "fake it" in such a way that even a good debate performance won't overcome the hit to her reputation caused by those interviews?

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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:39 PM
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16. I don't think that anyone could fake that stupidity.
Really. Trying to come up with non-sensical, incoherent sentences like Sarah's is almost impossible.

Look at how they even had to use Sarah's own words on SNL.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:40 PM
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18. First off...if you're not Rachel Maddow, the phrase just is not cute. Moving on..
As for what you're talking about. Who saw the debates between Palin, Knowles, and Halcro?

Halcro dominated that damn debate. The man was hitting all the issues. Knowles was definitely the buffoon of the lot and Palin, what a mess. Palin was doing the same thing she does now. She basically overuses words to get her point across and comes across like she's badgering.

Am I the only one who paid attention to that video? Andrew Halcro was amazing. The man was cool, calm, collected, new his information and cared about the concerns close to the heart of the people. He was very much "for the people" person. It's unfortunate he wasn't a Dem because he would have gotten the recognition he deserved.

This is the major problem with running Independent, you're basically discarded much of the time even when you have the clear and strong views. Had he run as the Dem, he would have won. Knowles was a buffoon, and couldn't even remember the questions. His answers were visibly weak. This is not to say he's an idiot, because that's not true. He just wasn't on the ball for that debate and he seemed uncomfortable and disoriented.

Palin sounded like she was a Pageant Queen answering queestions. When she was asked about what they didn't discuss more...she mentioned hunting and fishing rights. WTF? Hunting and fishing rights, and increaseing the caribou population so they could have more hunting and fishing. This is what she wanted to talk about and thought was important enough. That's utter nonsense.

While Halcro was wanting to really discuss the issue of rape, violence, and domestic and substance abuse which is extremely prevalent in Alaska and they tend to be no.1 in those departments. Yet, Palin is considered a strong debator?!

She knows nothign of even Alaska Politics. What kind of esteem do people hold debating on to think she was a strong debator and "faking" her appearance? Obviously, those who have not seen Biden and Obama debate it would seem. Do you honestly think that Palin in her debate as Governor could take on questions that Biden and Obama have worked for and under?! Just on language alone Biden and Obama are 5x more superior than her.

I can't believe I'm even wasting the time to answer this situation. I think it's because it boggles my mind that people would give credit (because to be worried she may be "faking" it) to silly ideas when she's proved otherwise.

I felt she won the seat of governor because Halcro was an Independent. He truly deserved that seat.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:59 PM
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21. Palin isn't playing stupid.
She is stupid.
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