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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:03 PM
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Break it down for us: What is Obama's solution to this Wall Street problem.
Who is he going to tax? Not small business.

What are his plans regarding CEO over-compensation? How will he enforce that?

Who will "own" this problem when he is President?

Does ANYONE have any SERIOUS answers to this problem?

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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:07 PM
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1. Kick for a reply.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:08 PM
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2. He supported the bailout..... I think he'll push for it harder now
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:13 PM
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What is his plan? The "bailout" is a broad term. Where does he stand on limiting CEO compensation
for failed companies?

How will he address the fact that small businesses will be pinched by the lending crisis?

Where does he stand on the bailout of people trapped in ARM mortgages?

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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:37 PM
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11. You know, the 100+ page bill is available to the public
I haven't read it in detail, but I think I can answer your question. Obama has already stated that he is against "golden parachutes" for CEOs for failing companies. He even ran an ad criticizing Carly Fiorina for this. I'm sure the bill has all the specifics about how they want to accomplish this, because this isn't a simple thing to implement. Probably a mixture of having the companies open their books, giving Congress the power to subpoena their records, etc.

It's my understanding that the bill had language in it to help people with bad mortgages, something the Dems insisted on adding into the bill.

Here's the bill:
http://edgruberman.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/ayo08c04_xml.pdf

:hi:
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:13 PM
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3. Well, Way Back In March He Was Talking About This Crisis Before...
It became the really big crisis it is now:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/us/politics/27text-obama.html?pagewanted=print

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Secretary Paulson admitted this in his remarks yesterday. The Federal Reserve should have basic supervisory authority over any institution to which it may make credit available as a lender of last resort. When the Fed steps in, it is providing lenders an insurance policy underwritten by the American taxpayer. In return, taxpayers have every right to expect that these institutions are not taking excessive risks. Now, the nature of regulation should depend on the degree and extent of the Fed's exposure. But, at the very least, these new regulations should include liquidity and capital requirements. Second, there needs to be general reform of the requirements to which all regulated financial institutions are subjected. Capital requirements should be strengthened, particularly for complex financial instruments like some of the mortgage securities that led to our current crisis. We must develop and rigorously manage liquidity risks. We must investigate ratings agencies and potential conflicts of interest with the people that they are rating. And transparency requirements must demand full disclosure by financial institutions to shareholders and counter parties. As we reform our regulatory system at home, we should work with international arrangements, like the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision, the International Accounting Standards Board, and the Financial Stability Forum, to address the same problems abroad.

The goal should be to ensure that financial institutions around the world are subject to similar rules of the road, both to make the system more stable and to keep our financial institutions competitive. Third, we need to streamline a framework of overlapping and competing regulatory agencies. Reshuffling bureaucracies should not be an end in itself. But the large, complex institutions that dominate the financial landscape don't fit into categories created decades ago. Different institutions compete in multiple markets. Our regulatory system should not pretend otherwise. A streamlined system will provide better oversight and be less costly for regulated institutions. Fourth, we need to regulate institutions for what they do, not what they are. Over the last few years, commercial banks and thrift institutions were subject to guidelines on subprime mortgages that did not apply to mortgage brokers and companies. Now, it makes no sense for the Fed to tighten mortgage guidelines for banks when two-thirds of subprime mortgages don't originate from banks. This regulatory framework...

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This regulatory framework has failed to protect homeowners and it is now clear that it made no sense for our financial system. When it comes to protecting the American people, it should make no difference what kind of institution they are dealing with. Fifth, we must remain vigilant and crack down on trading activity that crosses the line to market manipulation. On recent days, reports have circulated that some traders may have intentionally spread rumors that Bear Stearns (NYSE:BSC) was in financial distress while making market bets against the country. The SEC should investigate and punish this kind of market manipulation and report its conclusions to Congress. Sixth, we need a process that identifies systemic risks to the financial system.

Too often we deal with threats to the financial system that weren't anticipated by regulators. That's why we should create a financial market oversight commission, which would meet regularly and provide advice to the president, Congress and regulators on the state of our financial markets and the risks that face them. These experts' views could help anticipate risks before they erupt into a crisis.

These six principles should guide the legal reforms needed to establish a 21st-century regulatory system, but the changes we need goes beyond the laws and regulation. We need a shift in the cultures of our financial institutions and our regulatory agencies. Financial institutions have to do a better job at managing risk. There is something wrong when board of directors or senior managers don't understand the implications of the risks assumed by their own institutions. It's time to realign incentives and the compensation packages so that both high-level executives and employees better serve the interests of shareholders. And it's time to confront the risks that come with excessive complexity. Even the best government regulation cannot fully substitute for internal risk management. For supervisory agencies, oversight has to keep pace with innovation. As the subprime crisis unfolded, tough questions about new and complex financial instruments were not asked. As a result, the public interest was not protected. We do American business and the American people no favors when we turn a blind eye to excessive leverage and dangerous risks. And finally, the American people must be able to trust that their government is looking out for all of us, not just those who donate to political campaigns. I...

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I fought in the Senate for the most extensive ethics reforms since Watergate, and we got those passed.

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:13 PM
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4. go to his website and read his plan.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:15 PM
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6. Please sum it up for me. I'm interested in your interpretation of his plan.
It's time to talk about this. Tell me what you think about his plan.
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soccermomforobama Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:20 PM
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8. Just guessing. .
Just a wild guess, but maybe he will push to roll back some of the deregulations that got us into this mess. I think asking either candidate to get really specific is dangerous because neither of them know the real depths of the mess we are in and they won't know until they get behind the desk.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:15 PM
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5. Two words: more regulation. And a modern New Deal
Obama will be the new FDR.


Look, this problem will be fixed with a LOT of socialism. Republicans will gnash their teeth, but they will really have no choice but to go along with it. They got us into this mess in the first place by lifting the very regulations that were protecting us from this mess. Maybe they will FINALLY learn that if you don't want TRUE socialism, then you need to have referees on the effing field.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:16 PM
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7. Agree 100% that this is a Republican disaster...but..."more regulation" of what?
What is Obama going to regulate?

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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:23 PM
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9. He will have to re-implement the banking regulations that were in place
that prevented lenders from becoming greedy predators and other regulations lifted during the Reagan era. Essentially, we're going to have to roll back the clock a few decades. Cutting spending is also going to have to happen if he hopes to have money for both bailing out these institutions and the other programs he wants to pay for. And it will call for a tax increase on the wealthiest 1%.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:37 PM
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10. OK, now we are getting somewhere. But what were those regulations?
I've been in a banking family all my life. In my former life, I was a Private Banker....basically, a glorified teller except I could take 100K and put it in a CD, all the while making minimum wage.

The asset to debt ratio has always been the Golden Rule.

What regulations need to be re-enacted?
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:37 PM
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12. In 1999 the Financial Services Modernization Act...
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 10:38 PM by casus belli
did away with some of the remaining regulations that had been implemented in the early 30s to separate consumer banks from investment banks. This came on the heels of two other major deregulatory bills in the early 80s that served to deregulate savings and loan institutions. That deregulation is seen by many to be the primary culprit in our current crisis. When the FSMA passed, banks were free to consolidate into much larger, previously illegal entities, and the markets grew wild with speculative trade and exotic contracts.

There is a reason we went more than 50 years with no crisis, and it had everything to do with the regulations put in place in the early 30s. One of the first things we need to do is look at repealing some of these deregulatory measures and implementing controls and checks to prevent further abuses by financial institutions. Obama has frequently said he supports similar actions.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:46 PM
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13. "There is a reason we went more than 50 years with no crisis" That is incorrect. Remember the S&L
bailout?

I sure as hell do. Do you have ANY idea how many folks lost their life savings due to that?


It's nice that you cut and pasted a Wiki passage, but that doesn't really help with the current situation.
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:55 PM
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14. Not wiki, and you asked for an explanation.
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 11:06 PM by casus belli
The savings and loan problems in the 80s were nowhere near the magnitude of our current situation. That is because many of the contributing factors were illegal up until the deregulation that occurred in 99. That is, unless you're willing to argue that the crash in 87 was anything more than a hiccup compared to what we currently face.

Look, you ask where regulation needs to occur, and I answer your question. We can start with repealing, in whole or in part, the legislation passed in 99. You then responded with Ad Hominem attacks. I'm ready at this point to call your concern trolling and move on. It's evident you're looking for an argument and not an explanation.

Good day...


edit: to clarify an ambiguous sentence
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kurt_cagle Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 12:37 AM
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15. The 87 "Crash"
was dramatic, but if I remembered correctly the market righted itself pretty quickly thereafter; there was a "mild" recession that hit around then, but it was short even for recessions.

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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 01:31 AM
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16. It is correct: late 1930s to late 1980's no crisis
Edited on Tue Sep-30-08 01:32 AM by CreekDog
do you know what you are talking about?
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