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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 01:23 PM
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Nader on the GOP convention
from his mailing list:

The New Bush Slogan: “The Ownership Society”

Will Make Americans Poorer and Add to the Wealth of the Wealthiest

The selected President George W. Bush is expected to sound the theme of an “ownership society” featuring personal savings accounts at the
expense of social security, and medical accounts at the expense of full health care for all. This charade continues the duplicitous performance of Republicans at their corporate-saturated Convention in New York.

The new slogan is reminiscent of claims of being a “compassionate
conservative” in 2000 reinforced with the New York Convention’s slogan “People of Compassion.”

Were George W. Bush authentic about the “ownership society” he would
propose measures that would give control to what the American people
already own but have lost to the corporations.

He would give control over the public airwaves which the public owns. Presently and since the 1920s the radio and TV stations control the public airwaves as tenants though they are licensed from the Federal Communications Commission. These stations are the tenants. The people are the landlords. These tenants pay no rent (no license fee) to the landlords via the FCC. These tenants receive this public property free and decide who says and who does not say what 24 hours a day. The landlords neither have their audience networks nor any TV or radio stations based on a return of their property for an allotted time during prime time and drive time each day. These time periods would be programmed with experienced staff and studios and open widely the kind of information, participation and communication worthy of this great
public commonwealth that has been so trivialized and debased with
commercialism and more media concentration.

He would give control over the public’s federal lands to the American people who own these lands which amount to one third of the United States. Presently these federal lands are controlled by mining, timber and other extractive corporations through their compliant servants (often their former business associates) in the Department of Interior and the Department of Agriculture). As a result, the giveaways of the peoples’ natural resources are a form of legalized theft, matched by no other country in the world.

Finally he would not give away the results of federal research and
development – newly discovered drugs and many other innovations – paid for by hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars. Drug companies are presently given free of charge important drugs discovered and tested by government or university scientists under contract or grant.

These giant drug companies then turn around and gouge patients
mercilessly for such anticancer drugs as Taxol (Brisol Meyers Squibb) without any price restraints from the federal government. An ownership society would give the taxpayers more control through their governmental representatives over what they own and have paid for. Government R&D has represented a very major portion of the entire nation’s research and development budget over the past fifty years.

George W. Bush has been representing the interests of the giant
corporations rather than the interests of the people. Over-two-thirds of the American people polled believe this to be the truth.

The American people should not be deceived by this evening’s deceptive Bush brand of “ownership society” which means turning over the people’ money in the health and social security sectors to corporate control. Mr. Bush’s corporate control brings with it woefully inadequate disclosure, regulation or prosecution when these companies proceed to rip-off defenseless Americans or when stock markets fail them after the corporate manipulators jump ship with their profits.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 01:28 PM
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1. "So, hey! Vote for me, esp, in FL, and make sure he gets in AGAIN!"
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 01:33 PM
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2. Your post says it all.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 01:38 PM
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4. it certainly does: forget about republicans
the bushes and katherine harris. forget about the the *enhanced felon purge* that disenfranshised democratic voters. forget about the democrats non-existent response to all of the above.
yep...that says it all :puke:
the one thing i will say about nader...he's setting himself up to to be the democrats' fall guy if the republicans steal the election again.
that way they don't have to do anything remotely like actually challenging the voter purge (i.e., the republicans).
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 02:32 PM
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21. Psst. It's not an either-or, really it's not.
It is possible to work to make sure this is a fair election AND despise the egomaniac little weasel that is Nader. many of us do.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 02:43 PM
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22. You misunderstood my point.
I meant that the post said it all about Nader.

You are correct to point out that there was a terrible array of factors, all contributing the the disaster in Florida.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 01:35 PM
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3. Ralph, I sure wish I could vote for ya this time around. :^(
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kerryin2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 01:43 PM
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5. nader is an asshat..
cheney him and cheney anything he says!!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 01:54 PM
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6. Too bad Ralph cancels his thoughtful attacks with a willingness to
provide cover for Republicans election day gaming shennanigans.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 01:56 PM
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7. love him or hate him, he makes some good points
now if kerry will just steal them...
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 02:01 PM
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12. There lies the irony
Nader speaks to the issues most everyone wishes Kerry would address.
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silleq Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 01:57 PM
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8. Democrats Stop Nader
Why are Democrats getting Nader kcike doff of ballots? That is not the American way!
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 02:07 PM
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14. Because he rains on the ABB parade
which is the only way Kerry can beat Bush.

Although Nader is better on the issues, Kerry is the only credible choice, therefore Nader is the enemy. Amazing how many people pick up DLC talking points when it comes to Nader. Sure makes their job easy of marginalizing progressive issues and activists through the hate they can rally for Nader.

Talk about the Right inducing people to vote against their own best interests.

If you don't want to vote for Nader, don't, but he is right on when it comes to the issues...Is Kerry?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 02:30 PM
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19. You say Nader is better on the issues. What has he done lately? Anything?
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 02:31 PM
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20. zzzz. Kucinich says many of the same things. and still supports Kerry.
why? because he isn't a NARCISSISTIC BUNGHOLE who cares more about his own ego than making sure that the issues he supports have the remotest slightest chance of actually being supported, even some of them, even in a watered-down form.

"the good is the enemy of the perfect."

also: "talk is cheap."

also: "When you're in a hole, rule #1: stop digging."
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 02:09 PM
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15. you really rushed that post before getting tombstoned eh?
LOL!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 02:11 PM
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16. he is not getting on ballots
because he can't collect enough signatures or he collects fraudulent signatures. Also, in some states it's illegal to run if you accept nominations from 2 parties, and he did.
So, if he has anybody to blame for not getting on ballots, it's himself.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 02:22 PM
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17. Sure it is!
Seeing as there are laws he was supposed to follow and we just caught him on them.

Anyways, you're already gone so...

DUM DUM DA DUM,
DUM DA DUM DA DUM DA DUMMMMMMMM!

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21winner Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 01:58 PM
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9. Ralph has to run!
Small as they might be compared to others his speaking fees keep him above a middleclass life. He needs a another Prez run to have more suckers pay for the nonsense. It is so hard to be a saint.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 02:47 PM
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23. yep, keeping bread on the table
he's a con
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 01:59 PM
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10. Phoney
Slippery tongue...possibly one of the worst. A gigantic chasm exists between his mouth and his private, behind the scenes treaties he agrees to and invests in.

Caution - he'll catch you with the words and then let them fund him to allow them to rule. Check out how he invests.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 02:00 PM
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11. "But hey - he's not that bad because I'm willing to help make it happen"
n/t
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 02:01 PM
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13. Most of what he says is true
too bad he has to be poster boy for boys behaving badly
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wwbarnes Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 02:26 PM
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18. Ralph Nader = Harold Stassen
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