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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:27 PM
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KOS has up entire Bush speech
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 08:29 PM by newsguyatl
check it out!

and see if you're as underwhelmed as i am.


http://dailykos.com/story/2004/9/2/212546/7374
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:30 PM
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1. discuss here when you're done.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:31 PM
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Thanks to our policies, homeownership in America is at an all-time high.
And shouldn't he continue with foreclosure rates being at an all time high???? :shrug:

Very boring and no big words to wait for. I'm kind of bummed.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:36 PM
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19. downtown saw the bankruptcy court, popped head in
and asked the two men i saw...............with bush economy how is business

i had a huge smile, surprised the shit out of them and they stuttered a bit and one said, doing well thank you

oh so funny just a busting up laughin all the was down the street
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:38 PM
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26. You're evil...
But I like it!
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:36 PM
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17. That's it!
Good Lord, that was pitiful. Where's the vision for this country-- he's still talking about spreading freedom throughout the world. He should just say mothers and fathers hide your sons and daughters-- the draft is coming!
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Calm Like A Bomb Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:44 PM
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35. Surprise! More of the same.
Fear, fear, 9/11, terra, Ronald Reagan, terra, 9/11, $87 billion, terra, terra, terra, tax cuts, fear, terra, ad infinitum.

What a joke. :dunce:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:30 PM
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2. Any new proposal or just rehash of the same crap? I know there is
no $ for anything, thanks to dimson but when did fiscal soundness ever effect anything this idiot does.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:30 PM
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3. Hillarious
He is using some kerry talking points.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:37 PM
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25. he does that. been doing it for a while n/t
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:30 PM
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4. yep...4th grade vernacular.
this is great for us. No real anything?
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:31 PM
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so i can read it without having to listen to that smarmy...
.....sickening Satan Jr. voice of his?
THANKS!
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:31 PM
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5. Thanks!
Inoffensive, gentle, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, but long, with lots of oppty to blow it...!

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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:31 PM
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6. That speech sounds like the one he's been giving on the stump.
If this is all he's got, Kerry's gonna kick his ass tonight!
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:34 PM
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12. It takes six weeks to three months...
....to feed him a State of the Union address, or a stump speech. There isn't time, even with a Crawford vacation, to load a completely new speech into Junta Boy -- all they can really do on the fly, in the midst of a campaign, is to basically patch the speech that's already in there.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:32 PM
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7. "Senator Kerry opposed Medicare reform and health savings accounts."
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 08:33 PM by zulchzulu
Nice one, Chimpitty Chimp.

In full, Chimpified doofus form:

"These changing times can be exciting times of expanded opportunity. And here, you face a choice. My opponent's policies are dramatically different from ours. Senator Kerry opposed Medicare reform and health savings accounts. After supporting my education reforms, he now wants to dilute them. He opposes legal and medical liability reform. He opposed reducing the marriage penalty, opposed doubling the child credit, and opposed lowering income taxes for all who pay them. To be fair, there are some things my opponent is for ? he's proposed more than two trillion dollars in new federal spending so far, and that's a lot, even for a senator from Massachusetts. To pay for that spending, he is running on a platform of increasing taxes - and that's the kind of promise a politician usually keeps.

His policies of tax and spend - of expanding government rather than expanding opportunity - are the policies of the past. We are on the path to the future - and we are not turning back. "
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:33 PM
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8. what stuck out to me most
was the line about how kerry rightly referred to the reagan years as "moral darkness" and he immediately follows that with the defining moment in HIS presidency -- the 9/11 bullhorn scene...


just shameless exploitation of those poor people. makes me sick.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:37 PM
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23. My advice to Bush: Leave New York IMMEDIATELY after the speech.
Pretty emotional stuff from a man who has not attended a SINGLE F**KING MILITARY FUNERAL:

"One thing I have learned about the presidency is that whatever shortcomings you have, people are going to notice them - and whatever strengths you have, you're going to need them. These four years have brought moments I could not foresee and will not forget. I have tried to comfort Americans who lost the most on September 11th - people who showed me a picture or told me a story, so I would know how much was taken from them. I have learned first-hand that ordering Americans into battle is the hardest decision, even when it is right. I have returned the salute of wounded soldiers, some with a very tough road ahead, who say they were just doing their job. I've held the children of the fallen, who are told their dad or mom is a hero, but would rather just have their dad or mom.

And I have met with parents and wives and husbands who have received a folded flag, and said a final goodbye to a soldier they loved. I am awed that so many have used those meetings to say that I am in their prayers - to offer encouragement to me. Where does strength like that come from? How can people so burdened with sorrow also feel such pride? It is because they know their loved one was last seen doing good. Because they know that liberty was precious to the one they lost. And in those military families, I have seen the character of a great nation: decent, and idealistic, and strong.

The world saw that spirit three miles from here, when the people of this city faced peril together, and lifted a flag over the ruins, and defied the enemy with their courage. My fellow Americans, for as long as our country stands, people will look to the resurrection of New York City and they will say: Here buildings fell, and here a nation rose.

We see America's character in our military, which finds a way or makes one. We see it in our veterans, who are supporting military families in their days of worry. We see it in our young people, who have found heroes once again. We see that character in workers and entrepreneurs, who are renewing our economy with their effort and optimism. And all of this has confirmed one belief beyond doubt: Having come this far, our tested and confident Nation can achieve anything."
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:33 PM
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9. check this out ....
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 08:34 PM by hadrons
My plan begins with providing the security and opportunity of a growing economy. We now compete in a global market that provides new buyers for our goods, but new competition for our workers. To create more jobs in America, America must be the best place in the world to do business. To create jobs, my plan will encourage investment and expansion by restraining federal spending, reducing regulation, and making tax relief permanent. To create jobs, we will make our country less dependent on foreign sources of energy. To create jobs, we will expand trade and level the playing field to sell American goods and services across the globe. And we must protect small business owners and workers from the explosion of frivolous lawsuits that threaten jobs across America.

....

"To create jobs"??? You mean they haven't been created??? We have to wait until your "plan" is in place???
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:42 PM
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32. If he wins this thing
I might have to move to Canada.
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FlaIndie Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:33 PM
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10. this line won't be so popular to vets
And we have seen Americans in uniform storming mountain strongholds, and charging through sandstorms, and liberating millions, with acts of valor that would make the men of Normandy proud.

What? Not to put down our troops, but nobody will top the sacrifice of the greatest generation. More people died on Normandy Beach on one day than in Operation Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom over the past 3 years.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:48 PM
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40. More exploiting of military experience he knows nothing about....n/t
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:33 PM
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11. I reallt hate this part....disgusting!
Again, my opponent and I have different approaches. I proposed, and the Congress overwhelmingly passed, 87 billion dollars in funding needed by our troops doing battle in Afghanistan and Iraq. My opponent and his running mate voted against this money for bullets, and fuel, and vehicles, and body armor. When asked to explain his vote, the Senator said, "I actually did vote for the 87 billion dollars before I voted against it." Then he said he was "proud" of that vote. Then, when pressed, he said it was a "complicated" matter. There is nothing complicated about supporting our troops in combat.

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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:35 PM
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15. of course Bush....
threatened to veto the first vote on the $87 billion legislation....Mr. Bush how could you threaten to vote for a bill that woulg give the troops what they need?
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:47 PM
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39. dumbya's been saying this for months.
Mocking Kerry about the $87B and getting big yucks out of his audiences.

Kerry is way overdue to address this.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:34 PM
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13. "nevadadem" had the first best response:
great now I don't have to watch it (none / 0)

I'll go swimming in my pool get out for the daily show AND THE KERRY RESPONSE FROM OHIO AT MIDNIGHT
GAME ON MOTHERF**KERS:

this is your mission: TERMINATE the Bush presidency

by nevadadem on Fri Sep 3rd, 2004 at 01:27:50 GMT

http://dailykos.com/story/2004/9/2/212546/7374
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:34 PM
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14. he forgot to say he was going to VETO THIS BILL
Again, my opponent and I have different approaches. I proposed, and the Congress overwhelmingly passed, 87 billion dollars in funding needed by our troops doing battle in Afghanistan and Iraq. My opponent and his running mate voted against this money for bullets, and fuel, and vehicles, and body armor. When asked to explain his vote, the Senator said, "I actually did vote for the 87 billion dollars before I voted against it." Then he said he was "proud" of that vote. Then, when pressed, he said it was a "complicated" matter. There is nothing complicated about supporting our troops in combat.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:35 PM
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16. I have that horrible gagging reflex running fullspeed
And the most dreadful feeling that Bush is going to break into tears midway through this speech.

Please, If the is a God, let Bush continue to smirk his way through these self congradulatory ramblings, especially when it comes at the expense of those who have died so that AWOL asshats like GW wouldn't have to...

Let the mask fall tonight. Let America see this smug, childish, insensitive bully for whom he truly is.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:36 PM
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18. hmm "tax reform"
"Another drag on our economy is the current tax code, which is a complicated mess - filled with special interest loopholes, saddling our people with more than six billion hours of paperwork and headache every year. The American people deserve ? and our economic future demands ? a simpler, fairer, pro-growth system. In a new term, I will lead a bipartisan effort to reform and simplify the federal tax code."
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:36 PM
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20. " The story of America is the story of expanding liberty"
He must mean everywhere else, whilst diminishing ours.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:36 PM
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21. CNTRL-F
opponent -> 8
Osama -> 0
fear -> 2
terror -> 16
god -> 4
september 11th -> 4
security -> 0
iraq -> 13
afghanistan -> 9

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Protected Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:45 PM
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36. Reagan: 2
I bet some are still hoping for the Bush/Zombie Reagan ticket.
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GimmeDANEger Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:57 PM
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47. saddam 5
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:36 PM
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22. Kum-Ba-Ya Bullshit from a extremist tool
all this time they said Kerry was going to recast himself at the convention. Its true what was said - they try desparately to tar their other guy with thier weaknesses...

Now Bush is progrssive? Bull

health savings account= no health insurance
Complicated tax code = flat tax
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:37 PM
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24. You can tell by reading this speech
the jobs report tomorrow won't be good.
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independentpiney Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:38 PM
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27. Is that the 'Valley of Death' he's referring to?
"Now, because we have made the hard journey, we can see the valley below."
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Protected Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:39 PM
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28. More "ownership society" bullcrap
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 08:42 PM by Jonathan Little
This stuff should be easy for Kerry to knock down.

Here is a decent opinion piece on the "ownership society" (warning: he bashes both Democrats and Republicans)
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:40 PM
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29. "Many workers want to go back to school"
"Another priority in a new term will be to help workers take advantage of the expanding economy to find better, higher-paying jobs. In this time of change, many workers want to go back to school to learn different or higher-level skills. So we will double the number of people served by our principal job training program and increase funding for community colleges. I know that with the right skills, American workers can compete with anyone, anywhere in the world."

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:56 PM
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45. that is what an old person like me wants to do
40 something raising two little ones, boyscouts baseball house to keep up husband to keep hubby happy, at least i dont have to put food on the table too....................go back to school

damn that bushie boy is full of wisdom.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:40 PM
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30. So...no God plug? No, God has been speaking to me stuff?
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:45 PM
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38. God will be mad for being left out! n/t
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:42 PM
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31. Tort reform has morphed into "medical liability reform"
How do you reform medical liability without addressing medical liability?
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Queen Jane Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:42 PM
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33. hmm
"In this time of change, government must take the side of working families. In a new term, we will change outdated labor laws to offer comp-time and flex-time. Our laws should never stand in the way of a more family-friendly workplace."

Apparently a "family-friendly" workplace is one in which employers are free to screw their employees out of overtime pay?


And this:

"As I've traveled the country, I've met many workers and small business owners who have told me they are worried they cannot afford health care. More than half of the uninsured are small business employees and their families. In a new term, we must allow small firms to join together to purchase insurance at the discounts available to big companies. We will offer a tax credit to encourage small businesses and their employees to set up health savings accounts, and provide direct help for low-income Americans to purchase them. These accounts give workers the security of insurance against major illness, the opportunity to save tax-free for routine health expenses, and the freedom of knowing you can take your account with you whenever you change jobs. And we will provide low-income Americans with better access to health care: In a new term, I will ensure every poor county in America has a community or rural health center."

has got to be the biggest cop-out I've ever seen. Hey, you can't afford health insurance or decent medical care? Don't worry - you get a community health center! :puke:
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:42 PM
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34. Same tired old "He voted against body armor" crap. Go get him, Kerry!
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Dangerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:45 PM
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37. Hhmmph!
"And we have seen Americans in uniform storming mountain strongholds, and charging through sandstorms, and liberating millions, with acts of valor that would make the men of Normandy proud."

More like make Hitler and the Nazis proud.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:52 PM
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41. Wow
completely underwhelming. I found grammatical and structural errors I couldn't blame on transcription.

And what the FUCK? He said we are giving people local control of their schools!!!

NO YOU THE HELL AREN'T!! NCLB is an unmitigated disaster, I can't find ONE educator willing to defend it and I live in Texas. We've been under a version of it the LONGEST and it is a fucking mess.

It is the OPPOSITE of local control you bastage from hell.

Vile.

The speech is so freaking bland. More of the same goo ga stuff he's been spewing for months.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:53 PM
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42. we have climbed the hill and see the valley below us?
for everything there is a season?


argh :argh:
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:54 PM
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43. Here you go fundies!!!
I'm throwing you a big ol meaty bone now! Catch it:

"Because a caring society will value its weakest members, we must make a place for the unborn child. Because religious charities provide a safety net of mercy and compassion, our government must never discriminate against them. Because the union of a man and woman deserves an honored place in our society, I support the protection of marriage against activist judges. And I will continue to appoint federal judges who know the difference between personal opinion and the strict interpretation of the law."

Make a place for the unborn child? Um, a place at the dinner table?

And buh-bye Log Cabin-ers.
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LonghornJack Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:54 PM
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44. Isn't This Speech Kind of Long?
Is it just me or does this speech seem kind of long?

If I remember my history right, it seems that a sitting president in trouble feels compelled to put a lot of rhetoric into his acceptance speech. I recall Carter's speech in 1980 being really, really long; it was as though he had to throw out a lot of arguments out there to counter the Reagan campaign. I remember the media's comments that the speech was uninspiring and long. Then, of course, Carter went on to lose in a landslide.

I'd like to think that there's a parallel here. Duhbya's playing the Carter part of the '80 convention. Here's hoping anyway.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:57 PM
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46. GWB's Rule of the Jungle Speech
This changed world can be a time of great opportunity for all Americans to earn a better living, support your family, and have a rewarding career. And government must take your side. Many of our most fundamental systems - the tax code, health coverage, pension plans, worker training - were created for the world of yesterday, not tomorrow. We will transform these systems so that all citizens are equipped, prepared - and thus truly free - to make your own choices and pursue your own dreams.

Read: Prepare to fend for yourself because we're going to raid SS and gut every saftey net for the disadvantaged. Only the strong survive.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:59 PM
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48. OMG!! GUYS!! We have to "name" his speech NOW!
then start spreading the word!

The "Law of the Jungle" speech, as suggested above?

What? Something that REALLY sums it up! LABEL IT NOW!!! That's exactly what they do! Stick a label on it!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:05 PM
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49. This speech is terrible!!!!
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:14 PM
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50. we're all talking along with him
It's really hard to talk that sloooow.

He's not veering off text at all.
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