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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:56 PM
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Possible violation of UCMJ at the RNC
Someone was wearing their military uniform to the event. Even if you're not active duty, that's still not acceptable, according to my understanding of the rules.

Anyone more familiar with this care to comment?
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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:03 PM
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1. Same thought here
Federal Law (Titles 10, 2, and 18, United States Code), Department of Defense (DOD) Directives, and specific military regulations strictly limit a military active duty person's participation in partisan political activities.

My AF Buddy just said the same thing. It is clearly illegal.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:05 PM
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2. He's not active, he's reserve, according to Eric Alterman
He raised this question earlier... but does it matter, if he's in uniform?
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:07 PM
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3. doesn't matter
Uniform is uniform.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:13 PM
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4. OK
That was the question... it'll be interesting to see if there's any fallout from this.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:15 PM
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5. You're quite right. It's against the AFI (Regs)
I just hope his commanding officer is one of us
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Mortos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:16 PM
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6. The DOD directive is 1344.10
Here is a link:

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/html2/d134410x.htm

A member may not:

4.1.2.3. Participate in partisan political management, campaigns, or conventions (unless attending a convention as a spectator when not in uniform).
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:19 PM
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7. That specifically says it only applies to active duty
4.1.2. A member on active duty shall not:
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:44 PM
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9. other regs
3.5.6. Off-Post Demonstrations by Members. Members of the Armed Forces are prohibited from participating in off-post demonstrations when they are on-duty, in a foreign country, when their activities constitute a breach of law and order, when violence is likely to result, or when they are in uniform in violation of DoD Directive 1334.1 (reference (d)).

3.5.8. Prohibited Activities. Military personnel must reject participation in
organizations that espouse supremacist causes; attempt to create illegal discrimination
based on race, creed, color, sex, religion, or national origin; advocate the use of force or
violence; or otherwise engage in efforts to deprive individuals of their civil rights.
Active participation, such as publicly demonstrating or rallying, fund raising, recruiting
and training members, organizing or leading such organizations, or otherwise engaging in
activities in relation to such organizations or in furtherance of the objectives of such
organizations that are viewed by command to be detrimental to the good order,
discipline, or mission accomplishment of the unit, is incompatible with Military
Service, and is, therefore, prohibited. Commanders have authority to employ the full
range of administrative procedures, including separation or appropriate disciplinary
action, against military personnel who actively participate in such groups. Functions of
command include vigilance about the existence of such activities; active use of
investigative authority to include a prompt and fair complaint process; and use of
administrative powers, such as counseling, reprimands, orders, and performance
evaluations to deter such activities. Military Departments shall ensure that this policy
on prohibited activities is included in initial active duty training, pre-commissioning
training, professional military education, commander training, and other appropriate
Service training programs.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:24 PM
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8. yup.
This was talked about earlier. I'm sure Walt Starr will have the details.

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