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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:09 PM
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Palin's Attack On Obama's Patriotism Legitimizes Questions About The Palins' Association With AIP.
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Palin's Attack On Obama's Patriotism Legitimizes Questions About The Palins' Association With Group Founded By America-Hating Secessionist
By Greg Sargent - October 4, 2008, 4:55PM

Sarah Palin attacked Obama's patriotism today over his association with former Weatherman Bill Ayers -- a move that makes it perfectly legitimate to raise questions about the Palins' associations with a group founded by an Alaska secessionist who once professed his "hatred for the American government" and cursed our "damn flag."

In Colorado today, Palin seized on the big front-page New York Times story about Ayers and Obama, which concludes that the two men "do not appear to have been close," to launch her most vicious attack yet on the Illinois Senator -- a harbinger of what's to come.

"This is not a man who sees America as you and I do -- as the greatest force for good in the world," Palin said. "This is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country."

If Palin is going to say this, it is now perfectly legitimate to point out that she repeatedly courted a secessionist group founded by someone who openly professed hatred of the American government, cursed our flag, and wanted to secede from the Union. Sarah's husband, Todd Palin, was a member of this group, which continues to venerate that founder to this day, for years.

As you already know, the group is the Alaska Independence Party, which sees as its ultimate goal seceding from the union. Todd was a member, with a brief exception, from 1995 until 2002, according to the Division of Elections in Alaska.

And though Sarah Palin herself was apparently not a member of this group, there's no doubt that she repeatedly courted this secessionist organization over the years. In 1994, Palin attended the group's annual convention, according to witnesses who spoke to ABC News' Jake Tapper. The McCain campaign has confirmed she visited the group's 2000 convention, and she addressed its convention this year, as an incumbent governor whose oath of office includes upholding the Constitution of the United States.

The founder of the AIP was a man named Joe Vogler. Here's what he had to say in a 1991 interview, only a few years before Palin attended its convention: "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government."

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http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/palins_attack_on_obamas_patrio.php
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:11 PM
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1. Such questions were already legitimate.
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:11 PM
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2. Let's make her truly regret even going there.
The counter-attack shall be overwhelming.
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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:12 PM
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3. Palin wants to play with fire...
Burn, Baby, Burn!
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:15 PM
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4. SO THEN WRITE TO YOUR EDITOR AND TELL THEM WHAT A NUT SHE IS !!
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:17 PM
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5. "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government."
This single sentence should be quoted, trumpeted and highlighted by every Democrat until every citizen
knows it by heart.

This is worse than all of Jeremiah Wrights wrongs, put together.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:17 PM
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6. Hatred for the American government - isn't that in the repuke platform? nt
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Teacher in SC Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:19 PM
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7. Same basic thread as one posted earlier at 5:52
A similar thread has been posted earlier on this subject with the same reference.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:30 PM
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8. We need a really crafty 527 to make ads using the audio clip of Mr. Vogler
with pics of Todd & Sarah. If the "first dude" didn't want to be part of the US then, what has changed?
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:31 PM
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9. It was always legitimate. More so now than ever though.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:31 PM
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10. In her address to them, she told them to "keep up the good work"
WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA, SARAH?
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chicagoexpat Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:33 PM
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11. YUP! Palin and the Alaska Secessionist Party
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:43 PM
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12. Drill here, drill now!
:grr:
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:41 PM
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13. This is great, I can't wait to find out what all the Dem ladies think of this on the
All ladies forum I like to post on
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