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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:14 PM
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CHris Matthews: "One helluva speech."
Any doubters as to which side this ass clown is on? This speech was horrid. How can it be spun any other way?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:15 PM
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1. The Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations
Only helluva kuz nobody expects much
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:15 PM
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2. Chris (Clinton turned me down) Matthews
As if?
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White Mountain Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:17 PM
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3. Maybe Matthews is afraid that
crazy Zell will stalk him!
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:18 PM
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4. The speech was pretty good.
The last 10 minutes, anyway. It was powerful and he rose to the occassion. Won't change my vote, but I have to give credit where credit is due. I usually can't stand to listen to the guy speak, but he had me at the end.
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djg21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:19 PM
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6. But middle america turned the channel by then.
It was too long to hold a moron's attention.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:21 PM
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7. Average at best
Even for him. No credit needed. Now Matthews is orgasming over the baloons.
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AVID Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:33 PM
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18. I saw through the phony - last ten the worst
forced emotion - bad acting
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:37 PM
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19. I was stunned, he was more relaxed and much better than typical
In 2000, Bush stared straight ahead during his acceptance speech, like a wooden zombie. His upper lip sweated and his head basically never moved. He was in no way ready for that stage.

Tonight's speech was simpleton patrtiotism to the core, dishonest, completely lacking in a single numbers-oriented economic accomplishment which usually highlight incumbent acceptance speeches, and probably a considerable boost to GW. He comes across as more genuine and likable than Kerry, even if that is entirely untrue, and that is our main problem this cycle, similar to 2000. As Kimber Scott indicated, the final minutes were the most effective, like a boxer stealing a round with a final impression. As a gambler, my hatred for Bush and anything Republican is not going to cloud or sway the reality of tonight's performance. Even the camerawork was in Bush's favor, several women caught on the verge of tears, then Bush himself.

Kerry needs to step up beginning tonight, bigtime. A great start would be to quit stepping all over his own applause lines, an absolutely maddening habit he can't shake.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:19 PM
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5. Tomorrow they will change thier mind, I bet you
" the speech has not worn well."
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:23 PM
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8. How did the pundits react to the State of the Union speech
immediately after the speech?
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:25 PM
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9. I just turned on CSPAN2 and saw wild cheering...then I realized it was
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 10:26 PM by Gloria
for Jack Kemp's speech at the 96 Convention!

They looked more alive that tonight's bunch.........
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:26 PM
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10. It was, if viewed from Republican rhetoric
For their side, he got some zingers in against Senator Kerry, he was able to portray himself as a strong, caring leader, and he made himself human, by poking fun at himself.

He made himself endearing to his people. He snookered and bamboozled them, once again.

Me? I am so full of angry emotion, I can barely stand it. I'm going to now go pour myself a drink.

:nuke:
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AngryLizard Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:28 PM
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11. I knew when he started talking about his "problems with English"
that they were going to lick him up one side and down the other.

Still sticks in my craw: "3/4 of the high-level Al Qaeda operatives"...except for Osama bin Laden.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:28 PM
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12. Matthews says that about EVERY Bush speech. Remember the SOTU?
He said he hit that one out of the ballpart. Now the conventional wisdom is that it was a miserable failure.

This was a boring speech that had me yawning all the way through. Slow, plodding, heavily enunciated and trite. A long stump speech.

And still no mention of the Osama - the name no one dared to speak!
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:41 PM
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20. "And I have to say, I thought it a very eloquent statement tonight,"
He didn't say this tonight. This is what Matthews said about this year's State of the Union address - now seen as an unmitigated failure.
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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:29 PM
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13. very weak first 35 mins then it got quite good
no need to lie about it. the rhetorical flourishes re: the big picture of the "war on terror" were effective. the shots he took at kerry were effectice and not gratuitous. B+
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:30 PM
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14. He sounded tired.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:30 PM
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15. ???? Bush did NOT write that speech!
It wasn't a bad speech but MY GOD, even I could write such within a small amount of time that could bring tears..omg....he is still no different than he was yestereday...

Why cant the media tell the truth for once on such bs?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:30 PM
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16. My girlfriend likes Kerry and the speech.
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 10:31 PM by Bleachers7
She thought that he "pulled it off" and he wasn't his normal bumbling self.
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KingofRock Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:31 PM
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17. Chris Mathews is a bought and paid for media whore!!!!!
He backs down from Benedict Traitors like zig zag Zell. He wont expose Bush for what he is. I am boycotting as of today.
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:47 PM
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21. Chris's Paycheck-MS(NBC)=GE=War Is Good(sell those bomber engines)
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