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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 09:00 AM
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Fact Check: Is Obama 'palling around with terrorists'? Verdict: LIE!
Edited on Sun Oct-05-08 09:00 AM by jefferson_dem
Fact Check: Is Obama 'palling around with terrorists'?
Posted: 09:00 AM ET

The Statement: Republican vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin said Saturday, October 4, that Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama is "someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country."

Get the facts!

The Facts: In making the charge at a fund-raising event in Englewood, Colorado, and a rally in Carson, California, Palin was referring at least in part to William Ayers, a 1960s radical. In both appearances, Palin cited a front-page article in Saturday's New York Times detailing the working relationship between Obama and Ayers.

In the 1960s, Ayers was a founding member of the radical Weather Underground group that carried out a string of bombings of federal buildings, including the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol, in protest against the Vietnam War. The now-defunct group was labeled a "domestic terrorist group" by the FBI, and Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn — also a Weather Underground member — spent 10 years as fugitives in the 1970s. Federal charges against them were dropped due to FBI misconduct in gathering evidence against them, and they resurfaced in 1980. Both Ayers and Dohrn ultimately became university professors in Chicago, with Ayers, 63, now an education professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

Obama's Chicago home is in the same neighborhood where Ayers and Dohrn live. Beginning in 1995, Ayers and Obama worked with the non-profit Chicago Annenberg Challenge on a huge school improvement project. The Annenberg Challenge was for cities to compete for $50 million grants to improve public education. Ayers fought to bring the grant to Chicago, and Obama was recruited onto the board. Also from 1999 through 2001 both were board members on the Woods Fund, a charitable foundation that gave money to various causes, including the Trinity United Church that Obama attended and Northwestern University Law Schools' Children and Family Justice Center, where Dohrn worked.


CNN's review of project records found nothing to suggest anything inappropriate in the volunteer projects in which the two men were involved.

Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt told CNN that after meeting Obama through the Annenberg project, Ayers hosted a campaign event for him that same year when then-Illinois state Sen. Alice Palmer, who planned to run for Congress, introduced the young community organizer as her chosen successor. LaBolt also said the two have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Obama came to the U.S. Senate in 2005 and last met more than a year ago when they encountered each other on the street in their Hyde Park neighborhood.

The extent of Obama's relationship with Ayers came up during the Democratic presidential primaries earlier this year, and Obama explained it by saying, "This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood … the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago — when I was 8 years old — somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense."

The New York Times article cited by Palin concluded that "the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers." Other publications, including the Washington Post, Time magazine, the Chicago Sun-Times, The New Yorker and The New Republic, have said that their reporting doesn't support the idea that Obama and Ayers had a close relationship.

The McCain campaign did not respond Saturday to a request for elaboration on Palin's use of the plural "terrorists."

Verdict: False. There is no indication that Ayers and Obama are now "palling around," or that they have had an ongoing relationship in the past three years. Also, there is nothing to suggest that Ayers is now involved in terrorist activity or that other Obama associates are.


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/05/fact-check-is-obama-palling-around-with-terrorists/
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 09:04 AM
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1. mccrap doesn't care....
he's lied about everything. Why stop now? Time for this country to let them know what we think about liars. Only the terminally stupid will buy this shit.

I hope this comes back to haunt him. (mccrap)
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 10:05 AM
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8. I think it will totally backfire on him corona
and I love the nickname...McCrap. I might bave to start using that one. I had McTroll for awhile courtesy of Chris Matthews.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 09:05 AM
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2. This is nice....
but it will not stop the talking heads on TV from talking about it and the rethugs and FOX from spreading the lies....
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 09:12 AM
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5. Actually most of the MSM is saying the accusation has no merit /nt
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 09:07 AM
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3. K & R!
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 09:09 AM
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4. It doesn't matter if it is false
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FloridaGrl Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 09:44 AM
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6. It does matter
all some people will hear is Obama- terrorist and get scared enough to vote against him. The republicans scare tactics have worked before. We need to come out strong against this and turn their lies against them. First we need to make sure it's known that it is a LIE, then let us paint Miss Sarah as being in the "old boys" club and using dirty politics and scare tactics to score points. She maybe not from Washington but she sure has mastered their nasty tricks. Let's make people see that she is just another politician and that to them change is just a slogan and nothing else. This is our chance to take away the maverick from their game.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 09:50 AM
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7. Next Mccain will get Palin to push a; Mischelle isn't patriotic enough...?"
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