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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:22 AM
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I do not know how you all feel, however, with all this 'kill him stuff', am
scared, Tried to contribute to Obama's campaign but Canadians cannot contribute. Please assure us that Senator Obama will be safe.

The world wants him to be the next President of the USA and am sure you too want that. Please assure me that the secret service can protect him as far as they can!

Best regards,
Your Canadian friend
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:24 AM
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1. What I do know is these fear-mongering type threads are not productive to getting Obama elected.
And they seemingly spew forth this eve like explosive diarrhea.

We are doing the right wing's job for them when we perpetuate the speculations and FEAR-MONGERING. :(
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:26 AM
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2. Please believe me, am not fear mongering. I just want Senator
Obama to be safe. And trust me, the world is looking for him to get elected, even us Canadians!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:32 AM
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6. Albeit with good intentions ... you are fear mongering.
Sorry, but this banter is not productive. :(
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:41 AM
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11. No, am not fear mongering. Always liked your posts but wanted
to speak out. With Palin getting her crowd all worked up, who knows which idiot might take her seriously?

Am really sorry if I have offended you but I know how difficult it is for a minority to be on center stage!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:44 AM
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14. With respect, yes, that's exactly what you are doing - inadvertently helping the right wing.
Really, if you know of a threat, report it to the SS. There are nuts everywhere. Even the mindless celebrities must hire body guards.

I know you mean well but this is not helpful to anyone ... it only stirs up more fear. :shrug:
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:48 AM
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16. Am sorry, I was very concerned, however, let's hope for the best
and we will get President Obama. I too want him as a President as we are dealing with this loser Harper!

It was not my intention to offend anyone on here. I have been rooting for Senator Obama all the time and I would welcome any Americans who want to come to BC!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:53 AM
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20. You're not offending anyone. However, without intention, you are encouraging people to hold
onto their fears. Yes, it's dangerous for Obama but it's not helping him to continue to obsess on that fact because it FEEDS INTO the right wing's desire to frighten the populace into a sense of "learned helplessness." It's just my 2 cents but I don't think we're helping either each other or Obama's campaign by focusing on "the fears." :shrug:

Best wishes - I'm sorry if I came off as too harsh. :hi:
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:00 AM
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25. No, I was not. On the contrary, I am rooting for Obama and Biden!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:04 AM
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27. "without intention" ... it's all a part of PsyOps. People become depressed when we hyper-focus. eom
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:09 AM
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30. You are reading this so wrong! I am here supporting both Senators
Obama/Biden and like I said, I always liked your posts. Am here to support you all!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:14 AM
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33. We are having a failure to communicate. Think: Sub-text? eom
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:51 AM
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18. There's no doubt about that.
However, it's a reasonable fear. I don't begrudge her that. I'm surprised you little slide and call this helping the right wing. It's far from it.

This is ginuine and no doubt there are nuts everywhere but this is one of the first on tapes post the instigation from another candidate. This is unforgiviable and says a lot about how far the McCAin-Palin stupidity will go and it's reasonable once again, for people to be a bit panicky. Not everyone responds the same.

I think you're being unnatural insensitive to the OPs concern.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:06 AM
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28. personally I want it brought up
I want the media to see that people are upset at the vileness of these speeches and the danger in them. If we let the bar be lowered this low what next? I want the Dem party and Move on and everybody else out there raising hell about this. It scares me to see this kind of crap being spewed. Shame them into ceasing this line of attack is what I want.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:48 AM
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15. Oh what ever!! It's not fear mongering when the shit is all over the place.
She has a right to be frightened and want to talk to us about it. I think a good few of us our scared by the extent of the Republican tactics. This is not just for fun or hilarity any longer. This is extremely serious situation where other candidates are inciting mobs of people to violence.

The government is not talking to us about the economic crisis and now we're being faced with threats to our candidate and make no mistake that was to our candidate. They can spin it to oblivion they knew what they were doing and they went to damn far.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:50 AM
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17. Then what better way to spend our time than tell each other "horror scenarios?"
:eyes:
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:55 AM
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21. It's not horror scenarios.
She has a genuine fear and she's coming from Canada. I say give him/her a break.

My anger and several other posters anger over this was all over this board earlier today and it's still going on tonight. So our anger would be helping the right wingers? Our anger is coming from a level of concern for our candidate, you realize.

People actually shouldn't be put on the defensive when this has been made very real and this reality is hitting people hard. There's one thing to talk about it, and hear about it by word of mouth and this looming threat and when someone starts a thread on it to be like "your concern is noted."

However, this somethign entirely different. It's on screen and shows how extreme the other side is and to waht extent these republicans will go...with a bit of instigation of hate by their leader. It riles my nerves and makes me so angry because this is reminiscint of the lynching stories I've read about.

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:57 AM
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23. Yes, feel free to carry on ... and on. If this thread isn't enough there's over a dozen others.
Sorry, I don't wish to tweak anyone's feelings ONLY to suggest THIS ISN'T HEALTHY. :shrug:
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:04 AM
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26. You Truely read me wrong! I am here to support Senator Obama
and even though I have lurked on here for many months, I really liked your posts. Am not here to be negative am here to support Senator Obama and I know that if he is elected along with Biden, the world will be a better place. That's all! Sorry if you think am against you!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:06 AM
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29. Your intentions are good. It's the negative focus that can have diminishing returns.
Edited on Tue Oct-07-08 01:06 AM by ShortnFiery
I guess we are having a problem communicating. I've done my best. Have a good one. :hi:
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:17 AM
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35. Thanks for the genuine concern.
I don't think you are fear-mongering. There's a lot of idealists at this site, and they are freaked that the USA appears to be coming unglued.
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:52 AM
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19. I did want to talk to you all about this as I am getting anxious about
Palin and McCain getting the upper hand. But it seems as though some people think we should just butt out! That's very sad because I understand the crap Americans had to put up with during the last 7 years and I really want America to take her place in the world and not bomb countries. Alas, guess, I was out of place!
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:42 AM
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43. your concern is not out of place. We are all concerned, but I have
faith Obama and Biden will be kept safe.
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:58 AM
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24. Precisely, not only Americans are scared, people all over the world
are now scared if McCain and that Palin woman get into power. Can you imagine what they can do to the world. We need a new leader who is intelligent and knows how to bring America back into the power she once was. And I honestly and truely trust Obama/Biden.

Peace
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:27 AM
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3. I can understand why people are concerned, but the Secret Service has a job to do and they have been
doing it quite successfully so far even though it is particularly difficult. Have faith. Have Hope.... that's what we have. The World is literally rooting for Obama and so are many of us, hopefully more than 50%
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:30 AM
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4. It is more than 50% of the world who are rooting for Obama, actually
it is like 75% and for sure, he has a tall order and even if he displeases us initially, he will do right by us, me and you included. I just want him to get elected and then we will hold his feet to the fire but with him and Biden, America will be back to her usual self. No more war mongering, just peace!
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:43 AM
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13. I mean 50% in THIS country, I know it's like 80% in every other country... why is it always us??
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:12 AM
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31. Gosh, you know it is about America. If there is no change and McCain
gets in then what, it will always be you, not 'us'! McCain is not an option!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:31 AM
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5. It wasn't directed at Obama, but at the mention of Ayer's name.
Not to worry.
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:33 AM
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8. Well, from what I read today on here, seems as though Senator Obama
has to defend himself when he was eight years old. Isn't that beyond stupid?
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:56 AM
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22. There has been absolutely no confirmation of that being true.
Edited on Tue Oct-07-08 12:57 AM by vaberella
Some writers have spun it that way.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:33 AM
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7. I am not scared, I am angry.....
....and everyone who heard that "kill him" remark should be incensed.
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:36 AM
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9. I agree with you. Is this still the dark ages? Where we can demand
that a person be killed? This is beyond stupid to me! I am not god fearing but am wishing he can be safe. Please Lord, keep Senator Obama safe for all of us!
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:39 AM
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10. Why worry about some racist idiot in a crowd. Obama is already getting Presidential Protection
Those morons won't get close to him
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:42 AM
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12. I really hope so and thanks for that consolation, n/t
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:13 AM
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32. Send some money to the Nouveau Parti démocratique for me, I'll send the Democrats some for you.
:hi:
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:16 AM
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34. heheh, always looked at your posts and that was cute!
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:19 AM
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36. I've been DEPRESSED and embarrassed for America.
Akbacchus, on the forum I co-administer Candians are as SHOCKED as i was today when i watched what my friend Vincent called the "mini-Nurembergs" All day and night long I have been shocked and panicked. I can't believe CNN doesn't report these un-American attacks as the evil attacks which they are.

I never thought much of McCain but this is THE LOWEST LOW in electoral politics in my whole life!
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:24 AM
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38. Hi, we are not needed on here. Americans rule!
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:20 AM
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37. that was just one knucklehead... mho, NOT, to minimize the risk or horrific nature of it
after all, all it takes is one knucklehead

but I can hate on the GOPers with appropriate ire without associating them all with this incident
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:28 AM
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39. I just hope an asshole does not try to peg Obama out. We have seen
that before. And with Palin and her santimonious remarks, who knows what fear she is instilling in some people. As for me, am wishing Obama will leave as I prefer him alive. America is not ready for a black President and she will never ever be!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:31 AM
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40. Ok that crosses the line with me ... "America is not ready for a black President." ?!?
What? I thought you were Canadian? :(
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:35 AM
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41. Is that so difficult for you to understand? MLK was murdered. Am just
hoping the SS will be able to protect Obama, especially since Palin's supporters wants him to be killed. I fear for his life!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:37 AM
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42. I'm not going to continue feeding "the beastie" that is this thread.
Only to bid you Good Day.
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:46 AM
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44. Think about it, this is reality. Everyday Senator Obama is in a crowd
he is fair game. I am hoping that the SS are vigilant! That is all I have to say and I still like chatting with you.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:49 AM
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45. A suggestion for Canadians
Email this PAC and ask if you are allowed to donate:

http://truthandhope.org

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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 02:07 AM
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46. I just suggest prayer and prayer for those with that much negativity can find their hearts.>
Edited on Tue Oct-07-08 02:07 AM by barack the house
Not obligatory I'm mostly atheist but it's the best suggestion I can think of. Or at least keep him positive in our thoughts fear isn't an emotion that can keep us motivated.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 02:15 AM
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47. Akbacchus, I've been SICK all day. Many Americans are embarrassed by McCain/Palin
I'm scared, threatened, sick and horrified by Mccain?Palin. HOW LOW CAN THEY GO?
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 05:12 AM
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48. I'm confident they'll protect him, friend, but I pray for his safety every day.
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