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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 09:47 AM
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What's up with the Hotline tracking poll? Obama's only up 2 today
They say the race has tightened considerably since yesterday, when Obama led by 5, and that Obama's lead on handling the economy has evaporated. Could be an outlier but combined with the CBS poll yesterday I'm a little worried...I've been afraid of the race tightening in the face of these character attacks.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/docs/Hotline_100708.htm
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 09:51 AM
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1. The internals showed a jump in Republican identification
Self identified Democrats went down by one percent and Republicans went up by three percent.
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Schulzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 09:53 AM
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4. You are right.
Party ID Breakdown: 40%D, 38%R, 18%I.

Not going to happen.
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:01 AM
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14. Which is also the difference between yesterday's results and today's
Yesterday: 47 - 41
Today: 46 - 44
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jezebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 09:51 AM
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2. that poll only interviews 300 people each night, so there is a lot more volatility and error in each
nights sample.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 09:52 AM
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3. Is the report based on one-day results or a 3-day average?
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occe Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 09:54 AM
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5. That's a bad sign
That is not good.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 09:58 AM
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12. Really, on the basis of one poll? I think not, especially when you consider all the polls /nt
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:02 AM
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15. ...
:scared:

Uh-huh.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:08 AM
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18. and how come you are ignoring Rassmesun and Gallop which have different results?
Edited on Tue Oct-07-08 10:08 AM by still_one
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occe Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:10 AM
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21. Makes me feel better
That makes me feel better :) Its just I get worry when things are close. Zogby said things are tied now, but
i'm not sure if I trust Zogby. Thanks for the insight :)
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:21 AM
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24. I am not saying we should not be concerned, but we should not be too depressed either
The economy implosion has really focused attention on the issues, and since the republicans controlled the show for most of that time, it is going to be quite difficult for them to run away from that involvement, especially Phil Graham and his association with McCain


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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:08 AM
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19. Not necessarily. Americans know that Republicans couldn't run a decent
economy if it bit them on the ass. And the economy isn't going to just go away, it's going to get worse, and the worse it gets, the more it will bring down McSame and that nit wit woman he picked for VP.
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 09:55 AM
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6. The race is bound to tighten as we approach election day.
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Ashy Larry Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 09:56 AM
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7. I think they may have oversampled republicans
The party breakdown is 40% Democrat, 38% Republican, and 18% Independents. Yesterday it was 41%D, 36%R, 19%I and the result was Obama 47% McCain 41%.
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Schulzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 09:58 AM
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10. Yes, Rasmussen for expample uses 39:33.
If they used the same sample, Obama would be ahead by at least 6.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 09:56 AM
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8. OH MY GOD THE SKY IS FALLING.GEEEZ.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 09:58 AM
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11. National polls show movement before state polls. IT takes state polls a couple of days to catch up.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:32 AM
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25. So you are expecting Obama to start slip in the state polls because of ONE FUCKING NATIONAL POLL?
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:42 AM
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26. By the way you are wrong.National polls doesn`t necessarily reflect state polls.I remember...
that even until the end of the Democratic primary Obama was leading Hillary only with a couple of few points but won in some states with double digit numbers.The OP is focusing only on one or should I say two national polls which is of course the wrong way to do if you want to know the AVERAGE of ALL national polls.It`s just another "concern" post.

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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 09:57 AM
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9. It will tighten folks
Also if the party ID did change that could have some impact.

That is exactly why while everyone was throwing out parties for the winner I was saying let's keep kicking ass.
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Celebrandil Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 09:59 AM
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13. Don't trust tracking polls
Those tracking polls are not as accurate as one might think. When you smooth small sample sets across a number of days, you may see trends that are not actually there. If you analyze the raw data you more easily see how volatile it really is.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:05 AM
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16. As long as the economy is the front and center issue, McCain has no chance.
And one set of polling numbers is not changing that fact.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:06 AM
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17. Party ID is fucked up in that poll
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:10 AM
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20. M$M bullshit spin. The Political Elites are sweating bricks that Obama may win. M$M manipulation.
Why? Because they can ($$$$$$$$). :evilgrin:
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:11 AM
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22. Let's not forget that TERROR AND SMEARS tend to work -- especially when combined
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Godhumor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:21 AM
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23. Something is out of whack--they have independents favoring McCain by 8 points on the economy
Which runs opposite of pretty much everything else that has been reported. Looking at the poll numbers, I think Hotline has adjusted its weighting or sampling methods within the last day.
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