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palintology Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:40 AM
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Prediction: President Obama will ask Powell to become Sec. of State.
Within two weeks, Powell will endorse Obama.

I think Powell is the only Republican I can have respect for.
Are there any other reasonable Republicans?
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:41 AM
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1. No. He will ask Bill Richardson.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:41 AM
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2. I honestly don't think that is in the cards. Oh, the endorsement maybe but not sec of state.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:42 AM
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3. I don't think so. Powell already blew his first turn as Sec of State. Why would
he be tapped again for a role he failed in the first go-round?
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palintology Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:44 AM
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9. With a better boss he could do a better job ...
that is: rebuilding the Armed Forces. Get out of Iraq.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:50 AM
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24. Again, no--I don't think a Bush retread with damaged credibility
would be considered, no matter how much those two like each other. If Obama was going to go for a Repub for SoS, he'd pick Lugar or Hagel.
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:01 AM
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39. Powell forever blew any chance at any other Gov't job with his...
shameful support of this war. No chance any Dem will have him in their administration and even Repugs don't want a reminder of their run up to war lies.

If I were Obama I'd ask that he ...NOT... endorse me, either. I wouldn't want to be in the position of pointing out Powell's War Lies while he tries to support my campaign.

Powell needs to just fade away.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:42 AM
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4. Powell whored himself to the neocons...
I would hope Obama has better judgment than that.

Powell deserves zero respect.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:52 AM
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26. Powell whored himself to the neocons big time: his building a case for war against
Iraq to the UN by regurgitating known neocon lies forever links him to a war of aggression based on lies imv and makes him too a war criminal if, in fact, the invasion and occupation were war crimes under national law. :P
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:42 AM
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5. I was thinking Hillary. But maybe she should stay in the Senate
for awhile. What should they give to Robert Kennedy Jr? Maybe attorney general.
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palintology Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:46 AM
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17. Hillary might be interested to become a High Court Judge ?
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SurfingAtWork Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:42 AM
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6. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:43 AM
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7. Powell is a liar, unworthy of respect - I would expect Hagel if anyone
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:43 AM
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8. No fucking way
If we want respect in the world, we can't afford to put Powell out there.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:44 AM
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10. After his horrendous "pre-Iraq war" performance at the UN? Nah.
Edited on Tue Oct-07-08 10:46 AM by myrna minx
Um, after he brandished his vile of "Anthrax" and perpetuated the lies about Saddam's aluminum tubes, he lost his credibility. He out of the whole lot of the neo-cons had the most credibility, and he blew it with that display.

On Edit: I'd like Bill Richardson.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:44 AM
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11. Richardson or Dodd. Powell is politically toxic
Powell gave up his credibility on the floor of the UN. Forever.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:44 AM
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12. Ummm... no. Just no. n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:44 AM
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13. Nope. Powell has proven to have poor judgment at best. Here's
three names CQ Politics has suggested:

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=weeklyreport-000002971132

Susan E. Rice, campaign’s senior foreign policy adviser

She was on the National Security Council from 1993 to 1997 and was the assistant secretary of State for African Affairs during Bill Clinton's second term. On leave from her current job as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution — where she focused on global poverty, failing states, and international peacekeeping and conflict resolution — she has been Obama's chief public surrogate on foreign policy issues and has at times been a publicly harsh McCain critic. She also has led Obama's charge for a renewed focus on Afghanistan as the heart of the war on terrorism. Rice's first political foreign policy job was on the 1988 Michael Dukakis presidential campaign, when she was 24.

Richard C. Holbrooke, vice chairman of Perseus

His career has been a robust mix of foreign service and investment banking. He has been at the Washington private equity fund management company since his two-year tour as U.N. ambassador ended with the Clinton administration. In that job, he shone new light on the security implications of the global HIV/AIDS epidemic. As an assistant secretary of State, he was the architect of the 1995 Dayton peace accords that ended the war in Bosnia. Clinton then nearly picked him to his second-term secretary of State, going with Madeleine K. Albright instead. Once a top adviser to Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential bid, he now strongly supports Obama and his approach to foreign policy. Still, his personal conflicts with some Obama advisers are well known, and he received questionable home loans through disgraced lender Countrywide.

Bill Richardson, governor of New Mexico

He was the U.N. envoy for two years before Holbrooke, then spent the rest of the Clinton administration as Energy secretary. Despite those ties, after his own bid for the Democratic nomination came to a quick end last winter, he endorsed Obama, hailing him as "a once-in-a-lifetime leader," over Hillary Rodham Clinton. Since his election as governor in 2002, he has cast himself as an international mediator, traveling to Sudan to negotiate a cease-fire in its Darfur region and broker the release of a Western journalist accused of spying and to North Korea to recover the remains of U.S. soldiers. Richardson also spent seven terms in the House, where he sat on the Intelligence Committee.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:44 AM
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14. Powell? You mean that guy that LIED to the UN and to the
American people about WMD in Iraq? That guy?????

:puke:

He flushed his political future, and any respect I ever had for him with that piece of theater.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:45 AM
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15. Lugar is well respected
and good friends with Joe Biden. I am not sure I would call Powell a Republican. He has served in a Republican administration but I am not sure he has a party affiliation. Lugar does obviously, and he isn't going to endorse Obama, but I bet he gets some consideration for Sec of State.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:00 AM
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37. Lugar's wife is endorsing Obama today..
it was on another thread, so I think you're spot-on regarding the possibility of him being apart of an Obama administration.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:47 AM
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44. I think that was Hagel's wife
Lugar is a loyal party guy, don't expect an endorsement. But you won't find him saying anything bad about Obama either. Not long ago on CNN he was asked whether he agree with Joe Lieberman that Obama didn't put his country first. Lugar dismissed Lieberman's charge, calling it a "partisan statement at a rally".
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:24 PM
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47. You're correct, I had them confused...
I think we'd see Hagel there before Lugar.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:46 AM
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16. Powell was a "political general" rather than a fighting soldier.
He got his tickets punched - served in all the right places - but he was a political animal since he was a young man, and still is.

I doubt Obama will choose Powell for any job in the cabinet, but who knows.
Most of the republicans in power in Washington now are dogshit.


mark
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:47 AM
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18. No way.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:47 AM
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19. Oh god, that ain't happening dude
Powell gave up his last shred of dignity when he gave that pre-invasion speech at the UN, and he has never come out and admitted that what he did was wrong. He's damaged goods. There is no way in hell Obama will touch that, not when there are plenty of other good people to tap.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:47 AM
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20. Powell sacrificed all of his credibility when he chose to lie to the people for Bush
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:49 AM
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21. Highly doubtful... it's time to turn the page on BushCo all around. I predict Gov. Bill Richardson.
Let's see who's right.
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:49 AM
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22. Powell?
God, I hope not. He's already proven that he's not up to the job.

I don't think reasonable and Republican can belong in the same sentence, either. 40 years ago, maybe, but not anymore.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:49 AM
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23. Another reasonable Republican is George Pataki, former Governor of NY
While I never voted for him and I never would because I don't vote R ever, I thought he did a decent job. Also, he is an honest and good person, unlike McCain and Palin.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:51 AM
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25. Why? Because He Did Such A Great Fuckin' Job Before?





:eyes:





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palintology Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:54 AM
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31. No, it's because Obama has to rule from the center if he wants to be effective.
That's how you win following elections.
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proudleftists Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:53 AM
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27. Powell to Endorse Obama
No way,
In order to stay in the good graces of the establishment
Powell lied to the world and promoted this war. Send him off
to prison along with Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, as a war
criminal.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:53 AM
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28. Nope, won't happen
look elsewhere
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:54 AM
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29. You'd make a great TV pundit
They don't have a clue what they're talking about either.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:54 AM
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30. umm....please, no
I lost all respect for Powell with the part he played in pushing the Iraq war. Everyone trusted his opinion. When he pushed for the war, people believed it may really be necessary. There has to be better options.
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:55 AM
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32. No, because it would validate bushco
It would send a message that bushco's policies will continue.

An endorsement would be a good thing, and there might be something else in the admin for powell.
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freestyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:55 AM
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33. I think the U. N. speech destroyed Powell's credibility.
Now we know that he had to know that he went before a world body and spread lies that he knew were lies to start a war. I lost any respect I had for Powell after that performance, and I don't what he can do to regain it.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:57 AM
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34. Susan Rice
another woman (and another Rice) to wipe away the toxic stains left by Condi.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:57 AM
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35. Can you predict some losing lottery numbers for me?
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:58 AM
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36. Powell could have saved us from the
war in Iraq. He didn't do it. And I have never believed in the mantra Who could have known.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:00 AM
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38. I certainly hope not..
Colin Powell would be a pipeline of intelligence from Obama to Poppy Bush. I hope Obama is smarter than that.
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blue-kite Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:01 AM
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40. That would be a shame...
Powell lost all credibility over IRaq. Either he was stupid or lying... frankly for Sec of State I suggest an alternative to either of those!
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:01 AM
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41. Ha. What do you think was Richardson's price for his endorsement ??
Ya think he Understood that hew was not going to be the CLinton's guy?


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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:18 AM
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42. No no no. He will be smart enough to put a Democrat in that position.
Republican LIES have been that they are better in defense and national security which is TOTALLY FALSE as has been painfully proven over these past eight years and in previous administrations.

They are old fashioned and believe in WAR rather than diplomacy. ENOUGH with them.

No thank you on the Bomb Bomb Bomb Republican crowd.

I hope Obama will return respect to the State Department and give the job of Secretary of State to someone who has been a diplomat or involved in diplomatic negotiations for their whole career. I hope he will bring the many professionals who left during the anti-American Bush regime back to the department to rebuild its reputation and intelligence networks around the globe so we can offset conflict through other means in a more nimble 21st century foreign policy.



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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:30 AM
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43. Powell sucks ass. nt.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:48 AM
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45. Why? Just because he's black?
:shrug:
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:53 AM
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46. No.

Because he's a discredited, dishonored black person. There are many choices of many colors who would fit the bill nicely.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:35 PM
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48. Put down the bong.
Powell?
Colin Powell, right? That's who you're talking about?

That tool of the PNACers?
The person that deliberately and knowingly lied to the U.N.?
The person whose ambitions destroyed any ethics he may have had?

The man is a disgrace, and he knows it.
There is a reason you don't hear from him.
The personal shame he must feel must be overwhelming.
He was humiliated in public by his masters.


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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:38 PM
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49. Doubt it. No Bush leftovers. n/t
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:39 PM
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50. I can't have respect for a person who flat out lied about WMD and assisted Rove-Bush**
in the Iraq war. Powell lied in front of the whole world with his speech about "WMD".
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:44 PM
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51. Richard Holbrook or Bill Richardson wil be the next SOS.....
Colin Powell should enjoy his retirement. He did enough damage shilling for Bush at the UN.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:45 PM
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52. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Colon Powell gave up any credibility he had by helping to lie us into the Iraq war!

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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:45 PM
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53. Absolutely NOT. He might be useful for occasional advice on
military strategy. That was the only thing he was right about on Iraq and, of course, his advice was ignored by Bush and Rummy.

But he carried water for Bush at the UN and elsewhere, so he cannot be trusted.

Powell proved himself to be a yes man to the worst president in our history. He allowed his good name and reputation to be used to get us into Iraq. That's not the type of character or leadership we need.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:47 PM
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54. Richardson or Lugar maybe for SoS
It would be cool for Bubba to take it, Al Gore at Interior, Kerry for AG, Hagel-Veterans Affairs.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:48 PM
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55. Colin Powell knowingly lied in order to commit a holocaust in Iraq.
He is one of the most evil human being on the planet.

What is it that you like the most about him?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:49 PM
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56. Oh dear ...
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:54 PM
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57. You have respect for a perjurer? A traitor? A shrugger-off of My Lai?
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:56 PM
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58. Powell should be in jail...
with the rest of the war criminals from the Bush Administration.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:59 PM
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59. No Way. /eom
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lelgt60 Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 01:04 PM
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60. I love the hate...
"one of the most evil human being on the planet"

"lied to commit holocaust"

"perjurer"

"traitor"

1) I assume those of you making these statements have never ever made a mistake that caused anyone to get hurt.
2) Have some intimate knowledge about the intentions (not actions) of Powell that no one else has.

Look, Powell was wrong, maybe even lied (But I don't know - do you know?). And, no, no way should he be SoS again - he joined the republican party for a reason.

But all you're doing by making those kinds of statements is endorsing a culture of hate.

Judge not, lest ye be judged.


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