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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:24 PM
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Gergen: Too early to declare victory because Barack Obama is black
Edited on Tue Oct-07-08 10:24 PM by BeyondGeography
Cites a Stanford Univ. poll that says his race could cost him 6 points.

What an old scaredy cat Gergen is. Toobin says (and he is correct) that there was no such variance in the primaries.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:25 PM
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1. I'm looking for that one
because I just read a long one about the fact there is no Bradley effect anymore. I'll see if I can post both of them.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:31 PM
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6. Here is the Harvard Study
Edited on Tue Oct-07-08 10:37 PM by davidpdx
No More Wilder E ect, Never a Whitman Effect:
When and Why Polls Mislead about Black and Female
Candidates

http://people.iq.harvard.edu/~dhopkins/wilder13.pdf

Warning: it is 28 pages

EDIT:

Here's a story about the poll Gergen was talking about:

http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/show_story.php?id=9375
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:25 PM
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2. Democratic primaries are not necessarily representative of a general election
That said, I expect the Bradley effect to be countered by the tendency of late-breaking voters to go against party in power.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:28 PM
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5. The Bradley Effect is 26 years old; Harold Ford outperformed the final polls in TN in 2006
The last observable victim of the Bradley Effect was David Dinkins in 1992. Gergen's "fears" will prove to be unfounded.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:26 PM
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3. heard it.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:27 PM
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4. And Gergen loses some of my respect right there. nt
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:33 PM
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7. It is a legitimate concern...
If it weren't, would they really have Palin down South wearing lily white and whipping her crowds into a racist frenzy with statements like, "I just don't think that our opponent sees America the way we do"?

The Bradley effect has become McCain campaign strategy.
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JustFiveMoreMinutes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:33 PM
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8. Ron Regan, Air America... yesterday afternoon
At least I think that was the program.

He was discussing the 'race factor' with a caller, they were saying that 10% of the people are openly racist and would never vote for a black. Of the remainder, about 6% are not so obvious and if all things can appear equal, they would vote for the white over the black man.

That ties into the 6% but cant recall the person who was stating the numbers or what studies.
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