Why is W. so mad at Zell? . . . I'll tell you why!!!

[skip fox]

Because their next attack (coming later today) on Kerry will be depicting him as wild-eyed and out of control. They wanted him to react to Cheney's "unfit for command" crap the way he did. Then they could paint him as "over the top."

Zell hath muddied the waters. No matter how they depict Kerry, he'll never look as crazed as that angry turd smothered in dementia.

On a lighter note: Kerry's been off balance from the first. That was Karl's plan. By the time his campaign reacts to one charge, a different (but similar) picture of Kerry is being put forward by or under the direction of the administration:

1.) most liberal senator
2.) flip-flopper
3.) will not support troops
4.) war record not earned
5.) actually a coward who sought the succor of 3 purple hearts
6.) traitor to the troops left behind with his perjurious testimony to Congress
7.) unfit to command

That brings us up to last night. What's #8? But to know that, you have to know the game plan, the total picture they are painting of Kerry: He coldly courted power and political viability with every decision of his calculated life. He loves himself more than the country which he has already sold out a dozen time. Electing him would be a disaster of the first order. He should thank his stars that the American public doesn't lynch him, for crying out loud. (Like they say, these fellows knowhow to play hardball.)

Now . . . what's #8? (So we might get back in the game.)

[cthrumatrix]

1. bush approved Zell's hate speech - there was NO surprise- it was strategy

[Warpy]

9. yes and no

I think they vetted the speech, and I think it looked quite different as dry words on a piece of paper than it did coming out of Zell's crazed looking face. I know they expected the speech. I don't know that they fully expected the delivery.

[lunarboy13]

20. Exactly!

Three different people could have read the exact same speech last night and it would have left three different impressions. Zell read that speech like he was an angry judge sentencing a murderous child molester to death -- those wild, scary eyes, the snarled lips...Zell lost his composure and in turn, perhaps the election for W.

[cthrumatrix]

21. they were LIES and they knew it...the KEYNOTE was lies

that what is so "dishonest" ...and it all goes back to shrub's character

and he speaks of "values"...my ass

[skip fox]

24. Values my ass?

Ah, but we're through the looking glass,
Where once was good, now only bad,
And only worse is yet to come.
Te-Dum.

[skip fox]

13. Then why so mad? I agree with Warpy. It's in the delivery. The wrist!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=797895&mesg_id=797895

and:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x737335

[Cronus Protagonist]

22. Could be that they didn't like the pictures

A picture is better than a thousand words....

[skip fox]

23. HOW SWEET IT IS!!!!!

I've not been attending so hadn't seen these . . . WOW!

[KoKo]

25. Typical Rove tactic. Have one of their boys attack hard then distance

themselves from it. The surrogate who led the attack then "falls on his sword" for the P-Resident making it look like Bush chastised the surrogate. Notice that Zell is retiring...He doesn't have to worry about falling on his sword he will have a nice position in the Bush administration awaiting him if the Chimp gets another 4 years.

[DenverDem]

2. Bullshit! Johnny K has been planning this the whole time.

The rope a dope is over and John is going to proceed to kick these cowardly, lying traitors' asses all over the parking lot. The People know the publicans are sociopathological liers and their shit ain't selling no mo.

[skip fox]

11. I don't believe for a moment that Kerry should not

have reacted as he did last night. In fact I believe it was necessary (and, like many others, "belated"). He had to, in fact. Which completes my point.

[Norquist Nemesis]

3. I don't think Kerry's been off balance

You have to remember the incumbent has 'tools' giving him the advantage into the starting gate. Granted, Rove is excellent at implementing Plan B when Plan A goes astray. But, he also has the upperhand.

We keep forgetting, as much as we want to keep pointing a finger and blaming Kerry, the power is in our hands to make things happen. It is up to us to fight the good fight and fight it like our lives and futures depend on it--because they do!

[skip fox]

5. Yep, . . . and that's what I'm trying to do. To figure out the next move.

Look at the list of seven. Is that accurate? What picture of the man do all these smaller pictures point toward?

I'm saying that we need to think artistically about what is being pictured in composite (which they think will clinch the deal) in order to counteract, pre-empt, or whatever. But we need to know first.

[Qutzupalotl]

14. "Will not keep us safe"

They're trying to paint a decorated veteran as timid, cowardly, vacillating. Never mind that Bush's arrogant, reckless policies drive up terrorist recruitment. Never mind that bogging down our military in two wars, one of which was unnecessary, limits our ability to respond to world crises, or, god forbid, a new attack at home.

[skip fox]

16. Yes, Rove's dark magic would drive us straight thru The Looking Glass to

where light is the absence of darkness and heat the absence of cold, thus darkness is the fullness of light and cold the fullness of heat, right? Right.

[Norquist Nemesis]

18. You're right about being two steps ahead with a plan

but at this point, I'm wondering if it doesn't concentrate a lot of energy into a defense. Personally, I think it's time to have a hard hitting Plan A/B/C of offense fully ramped up.

That's where we come in. :)

[BurtWorm]

4. #8 Did nothing in the Senate

This message is already getting out to the media, and the media are already obediently plugging at it. Last night I heard someone--probably on Charlie Rose--saying something about his "thin accomplishments" in the Senate being a problem. No one but DU seems to be impressed with Kerry's deep knowledge of the BCCI scandal--and by implication, with the Bush family's evil empire.

[serryjw]

8. "Thin Accomplishments"......WHEN he showed up!

That attendance record will be the next thing

[loudsue]

12. That would be a kick-ass "come-back" for Kerry, wouldn't it??

Start bringing up Iran-Contra, which either implicated or prosecuted about half of the bush I team, and whose operatives are, once again, in the bush II team. Kerry could bring up all the lawsuits and scandals concerning Riggs bank (w/ Bush's uncle on the Bd. of Directors), the S & L fiasco, the BCCI, the use of the Atty. General to shut down all these investigations into the neocon cabal.... the list is ENDLESS!! He can use the film clips of the guy who got bush II in the national guard, and the testimony of the former bush family friends who can show that bush wasn't where he said he was during the "missing year" in TANG.

PLUS, continuing to tie Halliburton to the no-bid contracts and Cheney...and hammer home how much of this is coming out of funds that taxpayers need here at home.

But by just re-opening the Iran-Contra issue and BCCI, Kerry can show he sure as hell HAS done some good work in the Senate!! He may need to spell out for the short-memories what these scandals proved, and do it with sound-bites that are easily digested...but he could do it!

The neocons really aren't in any position to be trying to drum up crap on Kerry .... he could play as dirty as they are, and far more, but with REAL LIVE EVIDENCE and history!!!

:kick::kick::kick:

[Qutzupalotl]

15. good ideas

That would make a great counterattack. I'm not clear on all the BCCI connections, so a few soundbites would be good. A a lot of prominent people are implicated just by association, not to mention complicity.

That would be a surprise move. October?

[skip fox]

17. That sounds great!

He might even ignore their attacks, or hammer them aside with a few deft and no-nonsense comments, and then go on the offensive with the likes of these.

[BurtWorm]

19. I wonder if the Bushists are prepared for that.

You'd think they would be, considering what a major headache it is for them. It would be great though if they've been lulled into thinking, because the media and even the Democrats have played along and kept quiet about it, that Kerry will continue to play along and keep the secret--great, that is, if Kerry suddenly lets it rip! I've been thinking all along that Kerry's knoweldge about BCCI must scare the shit out of them. But then I see them brazenly pull the Swift Boat shit, and I wonder, why isn't Kerry using what he's got? Why are they so unafraid of him?

[The Sushi Bandit]

6. Here come the Nazis

[belle]

7. #8 Rapes, kills, and eats babies, not necessarily in that order.

:eyes:

[Fabio]

10. My talking point to most liberal senator and a flip flopper....

Obviously, the main thrust of the argument against Sen Kerry from the GOP is that he is the most consistently liberal senator and that he flip flops on every issue.

Pardon my ignorance, but how can you always be liberal and take two sides to every issue? You cant.