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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:06 PM
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Can anyone theorize as to why McCain didn't pick Mike Huckabee as his V.P?
Edited on Wed Oct-08-08 05:07 PM by msallied
I mean, wouldn't have this been a more, I dunno, intelligent move? He would have brought in the religious conservatives, and he's got a good bit more experience. And he was very popular among an ardent segment of the Republican population. It would have done more to unite the party, I think.

I guess I'm just trying to understand the mindset here. I mean, I'm glad to see Obama winning (thrilled, in fact), but I just don't understand why John McCain had to go and make it that much easier for us by picking someone for whom the term "lightning rod" seems far too inadequate. lol
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:07 PM
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1. Huckabee is not
a Manchurian Candidate.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:09 PM
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7. That's just scary...
And it speaks oodles about these lunatics.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:08 PM
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2. Because Huckabee humiliated him
Huckabee won several primaries after McCain had the nomination sewn up. That's my guess, anyway.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:08 PM
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3. 'Cause he didn't look good in that there White Dress and "come fuck me pumps.."
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:08 PM
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4. My guess is that the party leaders who picked Palin did so with the future in mind
They are creating her brand now, knowing McCain is a lost cause. Of course the Palin brand will be seen by future poli-sci students as a case of epic Fail.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:08 PM
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5. Huckabee made it clear he wasn't interested in the job. nm
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:09 PM
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6. As crazy as the Huckster is he is his own man
and the GOP insiders were more fearful than him than they were of McCain because he'd be a hell of alot harder to rain in.
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VAliberal Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:14 PM
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16. Palin is clearly psychotic to all but the 20%
hard-right, rapture-ready base.

Huckabee would have been more formidable as McCain's VP. Although he is probably every bit as inclined to enacting conservative religious ideology as law and subverting our secular Republic - he had the whiff of 'populist' about him - which made him unacceptable to the Wall St./deregulation/supply side Repubs.

I'm glad McCain or his puppet masters decided on Palin. Maybe another four weeks of her slow motion train wreck will end her career on the national scene.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:15 PM
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20. I hope you're right about that last part. This witch running in 2012 makes me nauseated.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:09 PM
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8. I was convinced that he would
pick Huckabee. It really surprised me that he didn.t

I wasn't expecting McSame to drag the process out to the very last minute.

This seems to indicate there was tension between McLame and the GOP Powers That Be.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:09 PM
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9. I'm not sure McCain had anything to say about it
His choice was of course Joe Loserman, but the guys who pull the strings (rove?) decided they weren't having any part of that so McCain was more or less saddled with Palin.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:14 PM
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17. HIs second choice was
the first Homeland Security guy. Jeez, my brain is not working lately. Can't remember anything.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:17 PM
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21. That would be Tom Ridge. Scary too.
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:17 PM
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22. Tom Ridge? nt
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:31 PM
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30. Yep, I had a brain meltdown.
That's him.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:09 PM
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10. Huckabee has a penis
Palin was a direct ploy to get the "disaffected" Hillary voters. Her "maverickness" and appeal to the GOP base was secondary.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:49 PM
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34. Appeal to the base was the primary goal
Getting disaffected Hillary voters was a pipe dream, and while it made for a nifty nearrative, it was not the reason Palin was selected.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:10 PM
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11. dupe
Edited on Wed Oct-08-08 05:11 PM by LiberalAndProud
DU lied to me.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:12 PM
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14. It just shows how little they understand women, period.
Women are perhaps more suspicious and unforgiving of other women than any man could ever be.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:10 PM
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12. Wrong gender.
Palin was picked for her gender. They believed that they would garner the disaffected Hillary voters. Unfortunately for them, they picked a woman who is not fit to carry Senator Clinton's luggage.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:11 PM
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13. I think Palin was a expected to be a twofer in the McCain camps eyes
Appeals to the same fundie whackjobs that Huckabee would have brought into play, but they also hoped she added the supposedly "angry woman" vote they were courting from the Hillary primary voters.

Unfortunately they didnt understand that Palin's views are the polar opposite of Hillary, so she didnt help with the women voters like they expected.

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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:13 PM
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15. McCain needed a "gimmick"
He (or his advisers) saw how popular Obama is and, more importantly, how historic his candidacy is so, after Obama declined to choose Hillary for VP, they saw an opening to put up their own "novelty" candidate. Their biggest miscalculation was not necessarily that they put a woman on the ticket but rather that they (thankfully) chose the WRONG woman for the slot.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:15 PM
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18. I guess there were no women loony enough...
Kay Bailey Hutchinson is pro-choice, after all. That would simply not do. Ugh.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:15 PM
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19. They were stupid!
I don't agree with Huck's policies at all. However, he comes across as personable and has a sense of humor. He would have made it much harder in any area in the South to be contested. In addition, he could have preached up a storm in a lot of Appalachia and other areas. He was the scarey one to me.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:18 PM
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23. Scary, indeed. Because he would have made the race that much harder to win.
We would have been back to the Kerry state scenario and North Carolina and Virginia likely would have not been in play.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:36 PM
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32. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:21 PM
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24. Freepers did not like Huckabee.
He committed the cardinal sin of *gasp* raising taxes.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:21 PM
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25. He's completely reckless and hates this country
and himself

and his wife

and the world

He is a vicious, vengeful, arrogant, entitled freakazoid, trying to hide behind a grandfatherly, senatorial mask, and its not working.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:23 PM
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26. Penis. n/t
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:49 PM
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35. now that was short and to the point.
:D
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:24 PM
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27. He chose a woman. Because they thought they were going
to get the Hillary Supporters
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pizoxuat Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:26 PM
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28. Huckabee doesn't hate poor people.
As much of a religious wacko as I believe he is, he does genuinely believe in helping the poor too. That goes over like a lead balloon with the base. Plus they though women would love Palin.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:30 PM
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29. The moneyed people (e.g., Grover Norquist) vetoed
Huckabee raised taxes as Gov. of Arkansas.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:33 PM
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31. palin was picked to attract fundies and hillary supporters....
...as mentioned by several here.

huck wouldnt appeal to the pissed off hillary supporters (who i think have all finally seen the light and are now behind obama).

additionally, huck is boring. having two old white boring guys up there would do nothing but put everyone to sleep. the only people who could stay awake through huck's dull speeches were chuck norris and his wife.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:43 PM
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33. Huckabee didn't do well enough in the talent portion of the pageant?
His flute playing was atrocious. ;-)
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:51 PM
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36. Fiscal Conservatives hated Huckabee
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:57 PM
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37. He lacked tits and ass.....nuff said
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:58 PM
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38. Vagina and Maverick branding. //
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:59 PM
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39. Too tall! McCain is incredibly vain.. and would NEVER stand for anyone more virile than he.
Frankly, I think he pick Palin in a moment of "oh fuck it!" when he got mad because he couldn't pick his little friend, Joe Lieberman.
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chicagoexpat Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 06:01 PM
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40. Huckabee refused to get the operation that would have given him a high voice
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 06:18 PM
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41. What's the difference between Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee?
:shrug:

They probably chose Palin, because she's less familiar to anyone and could lie about being a "maverick." She's also pretty and not Joe Lieberman.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 06:40 PM
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42. I used to think it was because he was too wacky
But picking Palin disproves that. Maybe because Huckabee wouldn't agree to stooping as low as Palin has?
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 06:47 PM
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43. McShame didn't like Huckabee...
He wanted Huckabee to drop out of their GOPER primary but didn't until McShame had enough to actually WIN the nomination.
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 06:53 PM
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44. He didn't want to stand up to his party. I thought this was clear.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 07:25 PM
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45. Huckabee is way to populist
economically for the base.
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 07:28 PM
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46. Hillary
He thought he saw a split in the Democratic Party that he could exploit with a stupidly obvious token pick. He was wrong.
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chiefofclarinet Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 07:31 PM
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47. What's the difference between Huckabee and Palin?
Lipstick.
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