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pkz Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 07:41 AM
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How I dispel the Obama rumors in WV
All the fear the GOP throws out is BS and we know it, but, tis the truth, low information voters do not.

When I am confronted with the proverbial Obama slanders, ie, "he is waiting til inauguration and then he is going to call out his sleeper cell", "everyone knows he's a terrorist", "he is not a natural born American" "he's a Muslim"

In WV the way this works is to play the ignorant card FIRST.....

"How can you be so dumb? He is a US Senator, do you really think after a background check they would let him sit in the Senate if he was a known terrorist?"

The words Background check can put a fear in a WV'an, for a whole bunch of reasons. They'll get that part.

As for all the Muslim talk and swearing in on the Koran.....I have that handy pic of Cheney after O's swearing in....then I say "do you think Cheney would get THAT close to a Muslim terrorist?"

I particularly love the Cheney card, some folks think he is the king of terrorist hunters and it works.

WV blood is large part Melungeon, that one is harder to handle, but if the race card is pulled, I got it and use it. They will try to deny it til hell freezes over but it does open some eyes real wide.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 07:44 AM
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1. Thank you!
:hi:
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 07:47 AM
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2. Good points. ...n/t
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 07:47 AM
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3. You might also add that he's not only a Senator,
he's on the Foreign Relations Committee and the Homeland Security Committee. You think they are going to let a dangerous Muslim terrorist sympathizer on those committees? You think he could get the security clearance you need to be on those committees? Those guys get classified information about the War on Terror! Is Dick Cheney, who serves as President of the Senate, going to give classified information to a Muslim terrorist? You think he wouldn't be in Guantanamo by now if he really were such a thing?

Some people are so stoopid...
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fencesitter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 07:53 AM
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4. That's why he's on the committee dummy!
The terrorists got him false credentials and faked his background so he can infiltrate the Homeland Security office. Jeez, wake up!
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pkz Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 07:57 AM
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5. and it serves better not to get too detailed
I am replying with the ignorant speech after all.

disclaimer
*I am a proud Wv'an and don't think all are ignorant, as in dumb, just ignorant on current events, some could care less about information.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 07:58 AM
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6. Definition of Melungeon from wikipedia - My husband was probably one of these from WV...
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 08:05 AM by 1776Forever
First here is the definition:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melungeon

Melungeon (mɛlʌndʒʌn) is a term traditionally applied to one of a number of "tri-racial isolate" groups of the Southeastern United States, mainly in the Cumberland Gap area of central Appalachia: east Tennessee, southwest Virginia, and east Kentucky. Tri-racial describes populations thought to be of mixed (1) European, (2) sub-Saharan African, and (3) Native American ancestry. <1> Although there is no consensus on how many such groups exist, estimates range as high as 200. <2> <3> Some self-identifying Melungeons dislike the term tri-racial isolate, believing that it has pejorative connotations. Until the late 20th century, some considered the term Melungeon to be pejorative.

........

My husband's family on his father's side included a Grandfather from Denmark and a Grandmother who looked very much like a mix of Native American and Black. But his mother's family was so racist they changed the spelling of their name in the 1950's when Johnny Mathias become popular to Matthews! I just learned President Dwight Eisenhower's has been identified as having a mother who was part black, it is time to open their eyes to the real truth! We are a melting pot!

Here is the link to the Eisenhower information:

Ida Elizabeth Stover mother of U.S. President Dwight David Eisenhower
information from the Nation Master Encyclopedia:

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Ida-Elizabeth-Stover

Ida Elizabeth Stover Eisenhower (May 1, 1862–September 11, 1946) was a lifelong pacifist, and the mother of U.S. President Dwight David Eisenhower. It should also be known that Ida Elizabeth Stover was a mulatto woman making Dwight D. Eisenhower part black. She was born in Mount Sidney, Virginia, the only child to Elizabeth Ida and Simon P. Stover. When her mother died when she was five, she was sent to live with (male) relatives who thought that girls shouldn't be educated, pushing her to memorize the Bible, in her mind one of her greatest achievements. When she was ready to go to high school, she was told that she couldn't she ran away. She graduated at age 19 and taught for two years before entering Lane University and meeting future husband David Jacob Eisenhower. She was named Kansas Mother of the Year in 1945.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 08:05 AM
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8. Wow, never heard of this before. Thanks. n/t
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pkz Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 08:14 AM
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11. Seriously...Scot-Irish do not have dark skin
or black hair. That does come from Melungeon blood.
If you have any old pics of great grandparents, it is really kinda apparent.
My hubby's family is very mixed, they will just never admit it.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 08:00 AM
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7. My experience is that most West Virginians are a lost cause....

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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 08:06 AM
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9. Can you explain why the words "background check" put a fear in them?
Thanks. This is an enlightening thread for me already. :)
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pkz Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 08:12 AM
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10. we have a huge FBI center here
employs most of five surrounding counties. They do intense background checks, and I mean intense, all your neighbors, some relatives and the application itself is 12 pages. Everyone has SOMETHING they want to hide, don't we all?
But, in WV investigating your background is seen as, I guess, infringing on your rights.
Resentment is over the top about background checks.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 08:15 AM
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12. Interesting. Thanks! n/t
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 11:27 AM
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13. Kicking for useful tactics.
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