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No Passaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:36 PM
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Cindy McCain: Vietnam vets with PTSD were 18-year-olds who didn’t know what they were doing
During a recent interview with Marie Claire, Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) wife Cindy suggested that her husband has never had PTSD symptoms because “he was trained.” She also added that symptoms such as “cold sweats in the middle of the night” are reserved for the “the 18-year-olds who were drafted”:

Q: You met your husband after his POW days. To what extent is that still with you - or is it a part of history?

McCAIN: My husband will be the first one to tell you that that’s in the past. Certainly it’s a part of who he is, but he doesn’t dwell on it. It’s not part of a daily experience that we experience or anything like that. But it has shaped him. It has made him the leader that he is.

Q: But no cold sweats in the middle of the night?

McCAIN: Oh, no, no, no, no, no. My husband, he’d be the first one to tell you that he was trained to do what he was doing. The guys who had the trouble were the 18-year-olds who were drafted. He was trained, he went to the Naval Academy, he was a trained United States naval officer, and so he knew what he was doing.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/09/cindy-draftees-ptsd/


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Strange. I was 25, highly trained grunt with 3rd ID and I have PTSD. I must have missed part of that training.

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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:39 PM
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1. CM is such an empty vessel ... does she really run a corp?
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:41 PM
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2. 2/41st FA, 3rd ID checking in...
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 09:43 PM by Barrymores Ghost
...my thoughts and best wishes are with you.

Let me be the latest to say welcome home.
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No Passaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:47 PM
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5. You're 3rd BDE?
Ft Benning? 2nd here. Thank you. It's been a while
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:52 PM
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7. You have mail. n/t
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rexy Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:44 PM
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3. So what is she saying about Iraq vets with PTSD?
Is she saying the army isn't training them, or is it their fault for not being strong enough? :eyes:
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mscuedawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:22 PM
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13. On KO tonight...
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:46 PM
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4. What the hell?
It's getting to the point where I'm fed up with Opiate Barbie almost as much as Caribou Barbie.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:49 PM
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6. kick nominated
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:53 PM
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8. ...
:toast:
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:54 PM
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9. truly the bottom of the barrel
Respect the troops? nahhh... only the admiral's son. All those dirty stupid enlisted pukes, who cares about their sorry asses, right Cindy? Those dumbasses who didn't figure out how to duck the draft or get a free ride to a glamor job crashing airplanes while whoring around and ignoring regulations - hell, no wonder they act goofy now; they were probably idiots for being there in the first place!

I didn't go - got called up, was ready to tell my 8-month pregnant wife goodbye, and flunked the physical. But I had friends who did. Some didn't come back. Some came back changed. Some came back and killed themselves.

Cindy McCain, you are evil incarnate. I wish I believed in hell so I could wish you to burn in hell.
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mscuedawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:57 PM
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10. Not sure if you saw KO tonight.... Votevets.org Chairman Interview
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 09:57 PM by mscuedawg
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No Passaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:27 PM
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14. thanks for the link
I didn't know he was talking about this
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mscuedawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:45 PM
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16. Aneeetime....
This one is interesting too...report card on voting for Troop support

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27103680#27093124
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:02 PM
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11. How does she explain my friend's brother who fought in Gulf War 1?
He was in his early 30s, and had made a career out of the Army from the time he was 18. He still suffers from PTSD.

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:07 PM
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12. So now that we have an all-volunteer, fully trained service, there's no PTSD.
Right?


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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:30 PM
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15. Wow. They should not let her talk to the press any more.
Cause that's fuckin' NUTS. Is there anyone in the world who would believe that bullshit for a moment, except maybe for her?

She should be dispatched to the Palin Zone forthwith...

The Plaid Adder
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