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progressiveforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 04:41 PM
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Question about 50 state strategy
I loved the 50 state strategy, but understand why we had to pull back.

What states are we actively pursuing? I can't find anything about this.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 04:42 PM
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1. Shouldn't that be the
57-state strategy?

:hide:

The Devil made me do that.
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progressiveforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 04:43 PM
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2. Behave yourself :-)
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JimDandy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 04:46 PM
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4. I think he must have had Heinz 57 sauce that day.
:evilgrin:
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 04:57 PM
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11. I think he was tired and said "if" when he should have said "or"
f..IF..yt fifty
f..OR..ty forty
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JimDandy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 06:31 PM
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13. Now THAT'S a reasonable explanation. Thanks. Mine was a crummy attempt at humor. n/t
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 07:21 PM
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18. 56 after Alaska secedes.
:rofl:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 08:47 PM
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24. Best line of the day.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 04:44 PM
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3. It's hard to answer a question that is not easily understood.
Could you clarify what you are asking and come again?
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 04:47 PM
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5. Which states has Obama effectively conceded?
The question seems clear to me.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 04:48 PM
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7. I think the OP is trying to ask if Obama has actually pulled out of anywhere
on the assumption that he can't win it.

Well, I don't think he's spending much on Wyoming.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 04:47 PM
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6. The DNC staff still remains even if the Obama campaign...
does not actvely campaign there. They are paid staff and will still be there. That is the 50 state plan also.

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JimDandy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 04:49 PM
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8. I am wondering the same - which states is the Obama camp still pouring
resources into and which have they now pulled out of? Have they abandoned any states like McCain did with Michigan?
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 04:50 PM
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9. The DNC has a 50-state strategy for the party
Obama has activity in every state. Highlighting the swing states that he has the best shot in doesn't mean there is no 50-state strategy, but anyway, the 50-state strategy was more about Democratic Party building and was initiated by Howard Dean. It never meant we were going to spend 10 million to win Mississippi, though we will have an official party presence there, unlike before.

Moving resources between states does not mean we don't have a 50-state strategy.
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progressiveforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 04:55 PM
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10. Sorry for the confusion-- what I meant is -for instance- much of the North Dakota
Edited on Sat Oct-11-08 04:55 PM by progressiveforever
Much of the North Dakota resources were relocated to Michigan and a month later, McCain left Michigan. Has that happened elsewhere?
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 05:26 PM
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12. First, the 50 state strategy worked perfectly. It did exactly what it was supposed to do.
It was never meant to be some pie-in-the-sky ideal where we expected to actually win all 50 states. It was meant as a strategy to see where the vulnerabilities in repub dominance were and it worked. Because of the 50 state strategy we have leads in Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado, Florida and West Virginia - all states that had previously been ceded to the repubs. We are also competitive in states like Georgia, Missouri and Indiana. This is all because we actually put feet on the ground to work for presidential, congressional and even local races. It's why we have a majority in the house and senate today.

Now that I'm done with my rant, I'll say that we're pursuing all the states listed above and because we have ground troops in every state in the union, if polls show an opening in any race, such as Mississippi or North Dakota, the Obama camp is able to turn on a dime and exploit that opening. The repubs can't make the same moves.

We should all be thanking Howard Dean for his foresight and perseverance in the face of incredible resistance, from Democrats as well as repubs and the media.
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JimDandy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 06:50 PM
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14. That's an impressive stategy. Thank you Howard Dean! n/t
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 07:05 PM
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16. As importantly as all of that, a major goal of the strat is to force McBigot...
to spend his $ in states he shouldn't HAVE to spend money in.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 07:24 PM
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19. Exactly. Bush had to come fundraise in FL because McCain doesn't have the $$$ to compete.
Prolly wasted it on Michigan or Iowa or Pennsylvania.

:rofl:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 07:03 PM
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15. States Obama campaign is actively pursuing hard = any swing state.
Hell, I live in Texas and we have four paid Obama staff in our state. That's not a lot but you know it's four more than we had four years ago. :D
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Every Man A King Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 07:17 PM
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17. Well here are the battlegrounds
The Obama campaign is asking people to travel to
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/driveforchange

Colorado
Florida
Iowa
Indiana
Michigan
Minnesota
Missouri
Montana
New Hampshire
New Mexico
Nevada
North Carolina
Ohio
Pennsylvania
Virginia
Wisconsin

I beleive North Dakota was pulled out of entirely, and there was a partial pullout of paid staff in Georgia although all offices remain open (mostly to help with senate race i assume, although Obama may win Georgia anyhow).
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 07:28 PM
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20. Every day Monday thru Friday you can follow them in the daily thread by phrigndumass
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 07:29 PM
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21. My guess is that the Dem vote in all 50 states will be up big in November proving that the strategy
that Howard Dean has pursued these last four years has been the correct one.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 08:05 PM
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23. Agreed. People are turning out more than ever in solid RED states - as Democrats
We are getting inundated in Tennessee with new voters, volunteers, and money. Even with talking heads telling the state that it's already McCain's, more and more people turn up. If it's happening here, I can only imagine how strong it is in other places.

I think we're going to see some big surprises on election night.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 08:02 PM
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22. There IS larger party organization in ALL states than pre-Dean. It's helping at the state and local
level offices especially. i.e. Dems are doing well in places like Nebraska. Since it's a NATIONAL campaign, there is no choice for Obama but to focus resources in key areas. HOWEVER, it's the largest map we've seen a Dem prez candidate plan in quite a few cycles.
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