Bill Maher on HBO now!! n/t

[madmax]

[Cush]

1. recapping the convention:

Fear, fear, fear, ass kicking, fear, tax cuts....

[Cush]

2. Dean on now

[Blue_Roses]

3. Dean

LOL! Zell Miller challenging him to a duel...lol

[Blue_Roses]

4. I knew Bill Maher would be brutle

to John Kerry. He thinks that if Kerry isn't in bush's face then he's weak. Dean made a good point that the American people want a grown-up in the WH!

Go Dean:bounce:

[Cush]

5. Dean says Kerry is a strong closer

and will be fine

[w13rd0]

7. Did he wince when he said that?

;) Hey, Dean himself can laugh, so can I... It's not without a sense of irony that I recall articles and essays just a week before Iowa asking, "Should Kerry just drop out now?"

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[Blue_Roses]

6. Dean is on fire!

:bounce:

[Cush]

8. wooo, Arriana is on!

[Blue_Roses]

9. Bill Maher is mad that Kerry has slipped in the polls

I've watched him long enough to know how he works.

[Prodemsouth]

16. Are you talking about Maher or Kerry? If Kerry please explain- last

race he had an opponent Weld, helped by Clinton in 96- who was not going to lose Mass, had to campaign for him, taking time away from other close states. And Weld was falling all over himself as the campaign was ending, literally.

[Blue_Roses]

25. read the post again

Maher is frustrated with Kerry 'cause he wants Kerry to kick BIGGER ass.

He hates Bush with a passion.

[seabeyond]

10. just remembered

kids watching a movie on my tv, i have to miss it. bummer bummer

[mitchtv]

33. hbo w at 11pm PDT

also on the rest of the week several times

[Zinfandel]

34. It'll be replayed tonight and all week-didn't miss much except for

Dean, huffington was good and moved as always and jason Alexander made some great points...but all in all not a great show for liberals or Kerry.

[mountainvue]

35. Yup.

He was so thrilled to have Pat Buchanan on the show that he failed to ask one follow up question. Awful.

[Blue_Roses]

11. who is this andrew sullivan guy?

n/t

[w13rd0]

12. He's a wildcard of sorts...

...he's historically been a Log Cabin Republican, but has recently had a falling out...

[GimmeDANEger]

13. a conservative blogger

I know because one of my favs (tom tomorrow) always picks on him



but



he's gay. so I believe he is now leaning towards Kerry because of that issue.

[sandraj]

17. He doesn't sound like he's leaning toward Kerry...

he's giving high praise to George "who's your daddy" Bush. Or is he just being sarcastic? I tuned in late.

[Blue_Roses]

18. he's gay and he's bitching about Kerry being on a windsurfer

give me a fucking break...he said bush is like "your daddy"...oh give me the puke bag.

[librechik]

39. but it's ok for Bush to ride a $3000 mountain bike n/t

[gmoney]

14. what is that accent of his?

it's really weird

[librechik]

40. he's a Brit who's lived here for years n/t

[ikojo]

26. He was once editor of the New Republic(an) Magazine. nt

[Cush]

15. Bill: Isn't the media liberal? (mocking the press)

Arriana: They have attention deficit disorder

[imax2268]

19. why is that guy Sullivan

familiar to me...

this guy sounds like a true idiot...

[Blue_Roses]

20. JASON ALEXANDER ROCKS!!

just nailed Sullivan to the wall.

[dennis4868]

41. yeah but did you see....

when Jason compared Bush to Truman....yeck! And the Jason says that Bush is not full of shit and Maher agreed with him....that pissed me off big time!

[Cush]

21. Pat Buchanan now on

[sandraj]

22. Jason Alexander is great

Summing up the issues nicely - he should be a speechwriter. Or run for office.

[imax2268]

23. Buchannan on now...

[sandraj]

27. Bashing Kerry

"Kerry is Bush lite," etc.

[GimmeDANEger]

24. When a mostly liberal crowd is cheery Pat Buchanan

you know this administration is seriously fucking up.

[Cush]

28. no Pat, the problem is the MEDIA

and their Bush lovefest, not Kerry

[Cush]

29. Bill: "9/11 wasn't a triumph of human spirit, it was a fuck up by a guy on

vacation"

[sandraj]

30. Maher made some good points about how

Bush keeps using 9/11 for his own selfish political gain... "you (addressing Bush) act like the worst thing that happened to us is the best thing that ever happened to you."

[madmax]

31. Nail meet hammer... loved it!

I love Bill Maher.

[dennis4868]

32. FUCK YOU MAHER.....

He really made me mad when he said there is no difference between Bush and Kerry regarding Iraq....WTF?

[Armstead]

36. There isn't any real difference on Iraq

Kerry hasn't said what needs to be said. It was a useless, needless war.

Saying "I'd have made the same mistake, except I'd do it better."

[Cookie wookie]

43. Kerry said that he would vote

to give bush the authority to go to war because it was right under what they thought were the circumstances (WMD) to give him the leverage needed to keep Saddam from throwing out or impeding the weapons inspectors. THAT is why Kerry voted like he did. And according to Joe Wilson's book there was a threat from Saddam in the first gulf war ( I demonstrated against that one too) because Saddam would have gained access to the sea and the wealth of Kuwait and all the bad that could have come from that.

I don't have the link anymore, but anyone who reads Kerry's speech on the floor of the house before the vote would know exactly why he voted like he did and that his position is nothing like Bush's in any way, not even on the same planet.

Finally, we need to remember that we do have troops fighting in Iraq and Kerry is a patriot through and through. If he comes out blasting against the war, that would not be good for our troops. When and if he wins the presidency, he will be doing everything in his power to bring them home and keep us out of these illegitimate, preemptive, evil wars!!!!

[madfloridian]

38. Some Dean comments I put in another thread. He was great.

Nothing really new, but very outspoken.

Bad connection at first, Dean joked that the connection was good until Zell challenged him to a duel. Laughed. He said they may never have to run my speech again, now they have Zell.

Audience laughed and applauded, Dean said he liked the audience, would take them to VT, NH, etc, and got a big cheer on that.

Maher said he may have been a loose cannon, but at least he had a cannon. Said maybe people were having buyers' remorse. Kept talking over Dean at that point. Maher was very critical of Kerry, irritates a little, but it is his show.

Dean said he and Weld knew what a good finisher he was, so he knew he would be ok.

Said the stuff they said in the convention was (and he would say it nicer than Maher) was "not true." Said it will catch up with them soon. Said Bush had 9.0 level of difficulty in the speech with 0.0 credibility.

Said Bush took Kerry's position on the war in Iraq. Said people really do want to like the US, they want to cooperate...they just don't like Bush. He destroyed all the alliances.

He said they were presenting theoretical neoconservative nonsense, and they had turned Iraq into a major danger in the world. Said Kerry would be able to enlist the help of others who knew the danger there. Maher told him to get ready for 2008, then cut him off before he could say not until 2012.

[AuntPatsy]

42. Ill have to catch him later, when I read your post

I remembered Daily show was showing again, had to watch that one first. I just love these shows, the only news stations besides cspan worth watching even if they are supposed to be just comedy..