What's wrong with GenX? They're supporting B*.

[JPJones]

They vote like old people.  Seriously, was it the fluoridation
in the water?  MRAD? (Molly Ringwald Aversion Disoder)  Do
sideways haircuts destroy grey matter?

 	       18-30	31-44	45-60	61+	All
Bush and C	44% 	49% 	45% 	52% 	48%
Kerry and E	50% 	45% 	50% 	43% 	47%
Nader and C	3% 	0% 	2% 	2% 	2%
(VOL) Other	0% 	0% 	0% 	0% 	0%
(VOL) Neither	0% 	2% 	1% 	2% 	1%
Would not vote	0% 	0% 	0% 	0% 	0%
DK/No opinion	3% 	3% 	2% 	1% 	2%

Wash Post 8/30/04

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/politics/polls/

[DaveSZ]

1. Where does Gen X end and Gen Y begin?

[JPJones]

3. Varies, I say born btwn '65 and '77 n/t

[Bombtrack]

38. Here is a formula for the generations. The best one I've heard about

They alternate between 18 year spans and 15 year spans.

Born between    time period     nickname 	  ages for those
alive

1860-1875	15 years	Missionary


1876-1894	18 years	progressive generation  110 -128


1895-1910	15 years	Lost Generation		 94 -109

	
1911-1929	18 years	G.I./Greatest Generation 75 - 93

	
1930-1945	15 years	Silent Generation	 59 - 74


1946-1964	18 years	Baby Boomers		 40 - 58

	
1965-1980	15 years	Generation X		 24 - 39


1981-1999	18 years	Gen Y/Millenials	  5 - 23

	
2000-2015	15 years	Generation Z		  0 -  4	

[Cobalt Violet]

2. They have no recall of life before the repuke take over?

Just a thought I don't know?

[JPJones]

Gen X are defined by growing up in the '80s

so they remember Reagan and Bush I.

[napi21]

4. I don't know where the 61+ numbers came from either!

Friday announcement just said increase in mediare cost per month to the seniors by 17%!

I'm starting to really question the polling models. I think they all could be using some estimates that just don't apply.

[girl gone mad]

5. Children of divorce..

and Bush is a surrogate father.

Lots of people still rebelling against their hippie parents, and feminism.

Honestly, I don't think the Democratic party has made its case to them.

[West Coast Democrat]

6. I'm on the young side of GenX, and people my age don't like Bush*

[JPJones]

7. That's the thing, I think most Gen Xers on DU

would think that people their age don't like B*.

[West Coast Democrat]

9. Perhaps this poll was heavily weighted toward those over 40?

Just a thought.

[Doosh]

8. 18-30 look pretty good

I think born between 1977-1985 would be generation Y right?

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

10. This Gen X-er (born in 70) never was a GOPer, never will be.

[George W. Dunce]

14. Same here

Born and raised Democrat. Grew up in the eighties when ketchup finding it's way into my school lunch as a vegetable. I had text books with my mothers name in it as a previous owner. This is not the inner city it was a small middle class city of 55 thousand people.
I am never sure why any one can logically support this man, unless you are super rich and actually benefit from these polices.

[sandraj]

11. More than a few GenX-ers

should remember Bush 41. Many of them were graduating college and entering the workforce, or had only been working a few short years, just as the early '90s recession hit. So, the support for Bush 43 (who is even more hostile to the middle class) is puzzling. (Not knocking the entire generation tho'.)

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

12. I don't understand how anyone of my generation (X) or any generation

for that matter can support W. I graduated college in 92 and it took me a year and a half to find a job. I think anyone who supports Shrub is downright a moron, but that's just my opinion.

[no name no slogan]

18. I remember 41 QUITE WELL

I graduated college in '91, right in the middle of the previous Bush recession. My first job was cleaning parts at a factory, making $7/hr with NO benefits (no union either). That's what an $11k/yr private college education bought you back then.

By then, I was already a Democrat. I'd been a peace activist in high school, spurred on by the illegal contra war and Reagan's insatiable need for nukes. It may have been the 80s, but there were many of us who were aware of what was going on.

Most of my friends (fellow GenXers, mostly) feel the same way. Most of them are either liberals, greens, or libertarians, but NONE of them are too happy with Dubya.

I always wonder about these polls.....where do they get these people?

[sandraj]

44. Went through

three years of unemployment/underemployment during that time myself. Never wanted another Bush in office after that. So, I can't understand why Bush 43 has a slight edge among our demographic - I knew so many people in the early '90s who were miserable during the Bush 41 administration. "It's the economy, stupid" came at exactly the right time, and it's no different now.

[greenbriar]

13. we just need them to fill out their draft regist. and let them know

that is their future...

[greenohio]

15. I think it is SS Reform

Most GenX see that they are getting screwed on SS. $hurb offers them a chance to put it in a private account. We offer them nothing but the status quo.

[Gloria]

24. Well, anyone can save their money in a Roth and not be taxed....

so SS then becomes a very nice "insured" account...

I guess people don't save money anymore.......

[greenohio]

35. That is our problem

we demonize individual accounts and then tell everybody to go set up their own.

[LoZoccolo]

16. Reagan Youth

A lot of really fucked-up ideas about poverty and ambition and success were around in the eighties when we were forming our ideas on that sort of stuff.

[Zorra]

17. Extremely heavy RW brainwashing during the Reagan era.

Kudos to the GenX'rs that managed to see through it.

[Orangepeel]

19. I don't think that's a significant difference

it could be, if the sample size is huge, but I doubt it. We could look for all kinds of reasons, but it's just as likely to be random error. As a GenXer myself, I'd like to see a consistent pattern across polls before I took this as a likely trend.

[JPJones]

20. OK, July 22, Washington Post

 	      18-30	31-44	45-60	61+	All
Bush and C	43% 	58% 	47% 	41% 	48%
Kerry and E	47% 	36% 	48% 	55% 	46%
Nader and C     7% 	2% 	2% 	0% 	3%
(VOL) Other	0% 	0% 	0% 	1% 	0%
(VOL) Neither	1% 	1% 	1% 	2% 	1%
Would not vote	1% 	0% 	0% 	0% 	0%
DK/No opinion	2% 	1% 	2% 	1% 	1

[JPJones]

21. July 11, Wash Post

 	      18-30	31-44	45-60	61+	All
Bush and C	39% 	53% 	46% 	43% 	46%
Kerry and E	52% 	38% 	46% 	52% 	46%
Nader and C	7% 	4% 	3% 	2% 	4%
(VOL) Other	1% 	0% 	1% 	1% 	1%
(VOL) Neither	0% 	4% 	2% 	1% 	2%
Would not vote	2% 	0% 	0% 	1% 	1%
DK/No opinion	0% 	1% 	2% 	0% 	1%

[Orangepeel]

36. those numbers are much more striking (n/t)

[Gloria]

22. I don't get the 60+----with all the prescription drug thing...maybe now

with the 17% rise in premiums things will change some....

[ibegurpard]

23. My generation came of age during the 80's

Reagan, Bush 1, and it was cool to be amoral and greedy.

[JPJones]

25. One possible solution

Live Aid II on election day. Free on cable. Gen Xers will be too busy watching the Boomtown Rats reunion to vote.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

26. Gen X came of age under Ronnie (Beastiality Experiment) Reagan...

when it was "cool" to be greedy, self serving, and shallow. Enough said.

:puke:

Maybe a Consitutional Amendment barring those born between 1962-1972 from voting should be considered? :shrug:

[Connie_Corleone]

29. Gee, thanks alot.

[DeepModem Mom]

27. On edit: Forget it -- I have a Gen Y child, and have read quite a bit...

she is working on a Masters that involves studying the research on this generation. I'll withdraw my observations, however.

[JPJones]

30. Sorry, that sounds like a bunch of PTA bullshit to me. n/t

[Connie_Corleone]

33. Most of the gen Xer's had baby boomer parents too.

The so-called "Me generation" started with the boomers. So, if alot of gen Xer's are like that too, they probably got it from their parents.

[Bombtrack]

40. Actually, most gen Xers parents, at least half, should come from the

"Silent Generation" (born 1930-1945) considering the average Gen Xer was born in '72 to parents around 28-32ish

[Connie_Corleone]

28. My generation grew up during the 80's and 90's

Greed is Good (Gordon Gekko)

I USED to think like that as a teenager. But I changed my thinking while in college. Personally, I think that poll might be more skewered to the older gen Xer's who are near 40 now. I'm 32 and learned my lesson early.

[depakid]

31. I think you may be basing you conclusions on incomplete data

Although I do and don't like hearing your aspersions- they do make me LOL- there's some considerable truth to them, in an oblique sort of way.

Gen X'rs are an interesting population, full of contradictions- sometimes fearing complexity and too eager to label cognative dissonance as negativity. Eager to avoid analysis, especially when it calls into question aspects of their lifestyle.

Leastwise, that's my experience- as a Gen X'r.

[roseBudd]

32. The good news is Gen Y is for Kerry

Bush/Gore split them. Kerry has a bigger percentage. College campuses are a good place to canvas and seek volunteers.

create an issue that brings the media to us using viral marketing techniques.

please help me get the word out:

most people have not read the 8/6/2001 PDB. I created a postcard size version.



Please print and distribute the image above. High res version for printing available below. Put them on car windows. Hand them out on street corners. We don't need TV buys to get some attention on this issue. We have to undermine Bush's perceived strength. We all are potential disseminators of printed media. We do not need a newspapers permission or lots of money for TV commercials. We need viral grass roots marketing. We need to create a buzz. If we create a buzz with massive distribution of printed ads we will get media coverage. If these start miraculously appearing and no one knows where they are coming from it will start to get media attention. now someone create a Condi ad and an Ashcroft.

Bush admin. INCOMPETENCE is key to undermining his strength.

high resolution version for printing here:
http://somnamblst.tripod.com/

[Connie_Corleone]

34. The good news is...

We're the only group who won't be voting for Nader.

[UTUSN]

37. SOME of the Xers Hate the Boomer Gen n/t

[rullery]

39. I doubt that my generation is pro-Bush

As one of those in the 61+ group, I don't believe that seniors could be that dumb. Sure there are some old goats like Zell Miller around, who resent paying taxes to educate other peoples' kids, etc. But most of the people I know are NOT Republicans. As has been mentioned, when our Medicare group wakes up and see our fees going way up, and when they realize that Medicare is forbidden to negotiate lower prices with the drug companies, I can't imagine that they would vote for Bush. Geesz, the very thought makes me sick!

[Joanne98]

41. The shopping generation.....

They like corporations so much they were their logos on their clothes for free. I blame Donald Trump.

[Tabasco_Dave]

42. They must be snorting coke again.

I think snorting coke makes people vote republican.

[Arugula Latte]

43. I've never liked my generation much.

I was born in '66. It seems like the youngun's who are currently in their 20s are cooler. Ours was the generation that came of age under Reagan :puke:. I always hated him; in fact, Reagan is the reason I realized I was a liberal. However, many others in my age group were too busy wearing Topsiders and learning to golf to open their eyes.