Bush has "presenile dementia"

[annabanana]

In LTTE from The Atlantic Monthly (October), Dr. Joseph Price, noting that Bush's declining speaking skills (noted by studying his earlier debates) must have an organic origin.
"President Bush's ''mangled' words are a demonstration of what physicians call 'confabualtion', and are almost specific to the diagnosis of a true dementia. Bush should immediately be given the advantage of a considered professional diagnosis, and started on drugs that offer the possibility of retarding the slow but inexorable cours of the disease." (no link)

[Jade Fox]

1. He does take some kind of medication on a daily basis....

is what I've read elsewhere from what seemed reliable sources.

[cheshire]

9. Cocaine is not a medication.

[unblock]

2. confabulation, not confabualtion

not meaning to be a spelling nazi, but seeing as it's a "defined term"....

[annabanana]

3. maybe I'm dyslecix (?)..................n/t

[RevCheesehead]

4. He should have to pay for them himself

and no Canadian imports

[stray cat]

5. I read that too.

Supposedly Bush didn't have language problems like this when he was in Texas so there is speculation that he may have early onset Alzheimers and the administration is trying to keep it quiet. It seems like a stretch but I wouldn't put anything past this administration. Usually with Alzheimers symptoms are worse at night and he did ok with the speech even though all he had to do was read it. The other speculation is that he is so over his head that he is falling apart and must be well scripted. He sure looked rattled and unsure of himself when a couple of protesters were removed during his speech.

[Gloria]

6. I'm not buying it that he "did well"....it seems to me that he was working

VERY hard to speak clearly. His mouth showed how hard he had to work at enunciating. Granted I did not watch the entire speech...but I've seen a lot of clips...I was struck by the unnatural movement of his mouth. It was almost like watching someone speak phonetically. Each syllable out of his mouth was so deliberate. It was a VERY unnatural speaking style.

I'm totally untrained in these things, but it seemed he was overcompensating for something. Not slurring??

[stray cat]

7. You're right. His delivery did not instill confidence.

Good point. The press thought is was a good delivery but I agree with you. I watched the whole thing and he looked uncomfortable and as he got close to the end he looked relieved.

[Jade Fox]

10. Plus he spoke very slowly....

clearly trying to head off word and sentence mangleing at the pass. Yes,
it seemed very unnatural. He looked rattled by not only the protesters,
but often by the applause.

He gets credit with the media just for not being an embarassment of
screw-ups.

[annabanana]

11. exact;ly..........If it wasn't scripted, it was disorienting

As if anything unexpected was confusing

[Bullshot]

18. I thought the same thing when watching Bush's speech at the RNC.

But I thought that maybe my prejudice toward him got in the way. I agree that he seemed to enunciate every word carefully. The address did not sound like he was speaking to you.

Whether it's early signs of dementia, or he's on medication, or whatever, he didn't talk naturally.

[Gloria]

24. Actually, it came to me later that his mouth looked like a fish mouth...

you know, how he was shaping his words by pushing his lips out... very deliberate.

Think about how a fish mouth works....that was what Bush was doing...

[Stephanie]

29. Yes, he has difficulty pronouncing ordinary words

He was over-rehearsed for this speech, which is why, when there were TWO disruptions in the hall (we love you, Code Pink!), he could not for the life of him ad-lib a response. My feeling was that the disruptions in the previous nights made him afraid for his life on that stage. And after all he is the Coward from Crawford. He is just a big fraidy cat with a big mouth.

[VOX]

44. It's as if he were speaking to a 4-year-old who was hard of hearing...

He often uses a "long" a, too, which frankly sounds not too bright.

As in, "I have *aaay* plan, but I do not have *aaay* detailed plan."

[dumpster_baby]

8. Either that, or he had a stroke

Something went awry, neurologically speaking. You can see it in his uncontrollable temper, too. THat is why Kerry has to really focus on pushing his buttons during the debate.

[buycitgo]

12. these are my favorite threads

Korsakoff's Syndrome

Compazine overprescription

booze/drugfried brain, added to being victim of FAS

seriously torched Wernicke's area

PSD is a good one, though

my dad had that, ca 1976-77, then they realized it was Alzheimer's.....this was back before anybody knew what it was, and they thought initially he was an alcoholic, despite the fact that he hardly ever had a drink, and I'd never seen him drunk in my life..... they didn't know what to make of his sudden personality change

[Jade Fox]

13. Explain one, two, and four......

for those of us needing to catch up. :)

[buycitgo]

14. I have to go, but I'll see what I can find when I come back

meanwhile.....

http://www.tardive-dyskinesia.com/compazine /

Compazine antipsychotic has dangerous and serious side effects associated to its use. Prescribed for the treatment of schizophrenia, Compazine has been linked to Tardive Dyskinesia and neuroleptic malignant syndrome. These two Compazine adverse effects have been linked to all antipsychotics and can become permanent and deadly.

http://www.tardive-dyskinesia.com /

then this

Korsakoff's syndrome is more likely due to severe nutritional deficiencies (particularly in B complex vitamins such as thiamin and B12) caused by excessive alcohol intake, than to the direct harmful effects of alcohol consumption. The problem is that some people who consume excessive amounts of alcohol replace important parts of their diets with the alcohol, preventing them form getting the proper amounts of vitamins and minerals.

Korsakoff's syndrome often coexists with Wernicke's syndrome. In Wernicke's syndrome, there is a deficiency in the vitamin, thiamin, due to poor nutrition. The thiamin deficiency in Wernicke's syndrome leads to brain damage. Specifically, the brain becomes inflamed, bleeds, and deteriorates over time. It is known that the nutritional deficiencies in Korsakoff's syndrome cause degeneration of the thalamus, which is an area of the brain that sends out messages regarding sensation. Korsakoff's syndrome was named after Sergei S. Korsakoff, a Russian psychiatrist born in 1854. Korsakoff's syndrome is also known as Korsakoff's psychosis, dysmnesic psychosis, dysmnesic syndrome, and polyneuritic psychosis.
http://www.medfriendly.com/korsakoffssyndrome.html

[grasswire]

15. plus Oedipal issues!

Geez.

I feel like a bit actor in a Greek Tragedy.

[okasha]

21. Bush is an active alcoholic

He's drinking again. Look at the following:

The falls--off bikes, down the stairs of Marine One, off the Segway, off the sofa (the famous prezel incident in which he apparently either hit his head or passed out.)

The lying--an alcoholic will lie preferentially, about things he has no need to lie about. Bush has claimed combat experience, for instance, but the one that stands out was his lie about Saddam's refusing to admit inspectors. That one he told right in front of Kofi Annan, the man who sent the inspectors into Iraq--while the inspectors were there.

The magical thinking--the tax cuts are revitalizing the economy, victory is just around the corner in Iraq, mission accomplished.

The miscellaneous oddities--keeping the Pope waiting 30 minutes for a meeting, then sitting there for the cameras looking like he's going to barf. (Doesn't matter what one thinks of some of John Paul's pronouncements; the man's in his eighties and ill. Bunnypants' behavior was rudeness of the crudest sort, explicable only if his aides were pouring cold water over him trying to sober him up.)

Okasha

[foo_bar]

30. you forgot one

vCJD

[grasswire]

16. definition

"A confabulation is a fantasy that has unconsciously replaced fact in memory. A confabulation may be based partly on fact or be a complete construction of the imagination."

This would explain his flawed memory of seeing the plane hitting the tower. And some of his other inexplicable goofs.

[AP]

17. "Catastrophic Success."

[swag]

19. It's true, Bush has presenile dementia

Bush has presenile dementia

It is absolutely true

and there can never be any doubt.

[A_Possum]

20. It'll be interesting to see them onstage together

In the debates.

Kerry's running so smooth and sweet in person it's hard to believe they can spin it for Bush.

[Minimus]

23. i'm looking forward to edwards and cheney

[liberal N proud]

22. And why is the media not picking up on this story?

Because they don't want to do anything that would make little georgie look bad. Carl said that would not be nice and he would slap them if they did.

[Infomaniac]

25. Bush on the Couch

The MD that just wrote Bush on the Couch suspects some of his language difficulty is evidence of a mild type of Tourette's Syndrome.

[Spike from MN]

27. I got the impression that he was really struggling

to read his speech. His forehead was wrinkled and it seemed to require great effort on his part just to get the words out. I know I'm a bit biased (OK, more than a bit) but I really thought he was having quite a hard time with it. Watching him try so hard reminded me of watching a second or third grader struggle to learn to read something that was above their level. I'm not trying to be mean here and I certainly don't mean to insult second and third graders. It's just that I found the similarity rather striking. It appeared to me that Dubya was concentrating way too hard just to get through the speech.

Then again, maybe he was having such a hard time of it because he was drunk. That's always a possibility I suppose. If nothing else, it would make for a good rumor. ;)

[gauguin57]

26. While watching Fahrenheit 9/11 for the FIFTH time today,

I was listening to Dubya being interviewed in the late '80s, when his father was president. And he was way more intelligible than he is these days. His speech wasn't as halting or mangled. Something big has definitely happened in that man's synapses.

[progressivebydesign]

28. Even that tape of him at the party or wedding..

.. he sounds different (not just drunk), he speaks much more clearly. Could it be simply because now he doesn't know what he's talking about??

[rullery]

31. If Bush gets re-selected, but is declared too ill to serve,

then we get President Dick Cheney - and we are all screwed!

[LisaL]

Surely, no more than now-

Nothing will change, as Cheney is the president already, isn't he?

[allalone]

32. I was watching his lips

and I swear when he accepted the nomination the word president didn't have three syllables. It looked liked he said preznit. I swear!

[Mr_Spock]

33. LOL - 'confabualtion'

Wouldn't "all fucked up" be a more appropriate description?

[Spike from MN]

34. With regard to Dubya falling off his mountain bike

As a mountain biker, personally I feel that if you have any clue whatsoever about what's going on around you, you shouldn't crash. There are two conditions under which crashing is acceptable: if you're trying to improve your skills and/or if you're racing. But obviously, Dubya's crashes fit neither of those conditions. With regard to the crash in May, an SS agent tried to pass it off under the excuse that it had been raining and the topsoil was loose. Well, for one thing, rain tends to pack the topsoil and improve traction so that makes no sense. For another, someone did a web search and discovered that it hadn't rained in Crawford for something like 13 days prior to Dubya's ride so apparently Dubya and his minions can't even handle telling the truth about something so minor as a wipeout on a bike. If they have to lie about a piddly little thing like that, what makes anyone think they can tell the truth about 9/11, the war on Iraq, Medicare, the budget, Social Security,...the list goes on. As for his second crash, I haven't heard any excuses being bandied about but that one really didn't get all that much publicity so I assume that they couldn't even come up with a decent excuse for that one so they just ignored it and hoped it would go away. Now if only we could do the same for his entire administration and the last 3+ years...

[BadGimp]

35. his real malady which impairs him the greatest is HUAS

Head

Up

Ass

Syndrome

[Momgonepostal]

36. The last thing Bush needs is MORE retarding

"Bush should immediately be given the advantage of a considered professional diagnosis, and started on drugs that offer the possibility of retarding the slow but inexorable cours of the disease."

[Carla in Ca]

37. He is on anti-depressants

n/t

[Andromeda]

41. Can you back this up?

Is this true or is it just your opinion. If it's a fact can you provide a link?

[Carla in Ca]

42. Andromedia

I had saved the website but have since deleted it. I will find it again and email you.

[Carla in Ca]

43. Andromedia, here it is

From Capitol Hill Blue

Bush Leagues
Bush Taking Anti-Depressants
By TERESA HAMPTON
Editor, Capitol Hill Blue
Jul 28, 2004, 06:13




President George W. Bush is anti-depressant drugs to control his erratic behavior, Capitol Hill Blue has learned.

The prescription drugs were administered by Col. Richard J. Tubb, the White House physician.

Tubb prescribed the anti-depressants after Bush stalked off stage on July 7, refusing to answer reporters' questions about his relationship with indicted Enron executive Kenneth J. Lay.


There is more to the story at Capitol Hill Blue.

[MsConduct]

38. bush is a 'dry drunk'

www.counterpunch.org/wormer1011.html

Interesting article.

[enigmatic]

39. I read this headline quickly and thought this said "penile dementia"!

I was ready to feel sorry for that poor bastard...;)

[MsConduct]

40. LOL!

I had to read it twice myself, but I felt no sympathy...