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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 07:48 PM
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Kerry's Always Best When He's Behind
That's the pattern that has held throughout every single one of Kerry's races when he's supposedly been on course to lose badly. It's been said so often, but it's true: Kerry is a good closer.

The people closest to Kerry agree - in fact, many say that Kerry's usually his worst when he's nursing a comfortable lead. He's the type that works best under pressure and works best when he's behind. He has constantly come from behind to win races the CW says he should lose. I.E. his Lt. Governorship race ('82), his Senate primary ('84), the Weld race ('96), and, most spectacularly of all, the 2004 Pres. Primary, where, let's not forget, Kerry swept the primaries after coming back from a 30-pt deficit in NH and a 15-20% deficit in Iowa just a month before the primary.

Certainly Kerry can come back from what's probably, in truth, a 5-pt Bush advantage (Time and Newsweek are probably on the upper limits, it's probably less) with 2 months left. Certainly I wish that Kerry were winning comfortably right now, but let's not get scared. We can't be complacent, and we need to pull hard, but we can do it, and Kerry can do it, like he's done so often before.

I expect on Nov. 3, the story's going to be, "how did Kerry pull it off?" with a 53-46 popular vote majority and 300+ EVs.
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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 07:55 PM
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1. When was the last time a stretch runner won the Kentucky Derby?
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volosong Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:09 PM
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2. Stretch Runners have won the Kentucky Derby
But I can't recall any 2 horse "Match Race" that was won in the final furlong by a come from behind horse.

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A_Possum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:11 PM
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3. As if that had anything to do with anything
At least try to keep it in the realm of plausibility.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:49 PM
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5. Maybe he think it's relevant because Kerry is horsefaced.
;-)
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A_Possum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:00 PM
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7. We like to call it "Lincolnesque"
And I couldn't resist checking up on some famous match races. Here's a description of Seabiscuit and War Admiral:

"A roar went up from the grandstand as it was seen that the Admiral was devouring the space between himself and the leader...Making a supreme effort, War Admiral assumed a slight advantage."

"But Seabiscuit, as he has shown it so often, is not made of yielding material. He buckled to his work without flinching and through the next furlong, they ran locked in combat amid excitement that was undescribable." (sic)

"So they struggled, matching stride for stride, to the top of the stretch. With the advantage of the rail, Seabiscuit began to assume the offensive again."

"When they were at the last furlong pole, it was evident that the race was over. Both jockeys put up their whips and Seabiscuit, going strongly, the Admiral a very tired colt, the bay won by three open lengths."

Horse racing

Interesting! ;-)
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 12:06 AM
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19. I think he looks like Andrew Jackson
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:20 PM
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4. Isn't that the way it was with Clinton?
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brooklynheights Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:52 PM
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6. I am so depressed
I feel like we lost already, we are so far behind
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:08 PM
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:15 PM
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10. LOL!
perfect!

:evilgrin:
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:16 PM
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11. BWAHAHAHA!!!
That was great
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:31 PM
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:02 PM
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14. they deleted the wrong post probably
i have seen it happen before.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:11 PM
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catbert836 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:06 PM
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15. Please, No!
Don't go negative. That's how we will lose.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:45 PM
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17. Welcome to DU!...and there is nothing to be depressed about...
Kerry is going to win, and bush will be gone. There are 60 days, and debates to go yet....:)
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 12:04 AM
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18. No we're not
Now is the time that the campaign really begins.

We haven't even had the debates yet.

Labor Day is when everything gets started.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 06:56 AM
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21. Precisely...this hasn't even begun yet...
all of the preliminaries are over now, and the real campaigning is about to begin. If Kerry sticks to issues, and does not fall into the trap of playing the blame game, he should sail to victory with a comfortable margin.

bush cannot use issues in his campaign, if he dioes, he's toast and knows it; massive failures in every one of his policies...what a thingf to run on...:)
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:00 PM
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13. That was in Massachussetts! This is a NATIONAL Campaign.
The factors playing in here are much different.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:13 PM
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16. The Republicans are trying to damage Kerry so even if he wins...
He's weaker and open for being brought down as president.

They are not stupid, they know that everything they are doing today will make Kerry weaker in people's minds when they try to impeach him if he does win.

By allowing the Republicans to attack relentlessly without going after them and throwing them off balance, Kerry is getting hurt. He is being systematically undermined so that even if he does win, the damage is done.

Why aren't we doing the same to Bush?

The Republicans seem to think years ahead of our current Democratic leadership.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 12:08 AM
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20. No kidding
Remember how they treated Clinton? If Kerry wins they'll be no kinder.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 07:18 AM
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24. Unlike Clinton
Kerry won't let them get away with it.

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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 07:09 AM
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22. We need our own group of

SmearVets. No one has ever come forward to claim the $10,000 Gary Trudeau has offered for anyone who can say he served with Bush* in Alabama. Too bad we can't find a bunch of guys who were serving in Alabama and never saw Bush* there to come forward and say "I was there -- where was George W. Bush? Why is there no one who will say he remembers serving with George W. Bush?"

Hell, the widow of the guy who arranged for Dubya to work on that campaign in Alabama just came forward and said that she remembered her husband being asked to help the Bush family by getting George out of Texas. She says he was embarrassing the Bushes with his drunken antics there and they wanted to ship him out of state. She never heard anything about him being in the Guard. Why not show her in a TV ad?

Of course the Kerry campaign must be able to honestly deny having anything to do with the mudslinging Alabama ANG vets or the Alabama politician's widow. Mud must be slung by people not associated with the campaign. That's how the GOP has been playing it for years.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 07:12 AM
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23. Where are the proverbial Democratic "bomb throwers" (figure of speech)
Edited on Sun Sep-05-04 07:13 AM by Democat
Can it really be that there is no one on our side willing to go really dirty in the fight against the right? No one? The right wing seems to have an unlimited supply of people willing to risk everything for a smear (and some cash) and we have none? It's hard to believe!
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 07:30 AM
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25. Character is best determined in adversity. We always know Kerry
climbs back up and dust himself off. With Bush, when he gets bad poll numbers, he throws mud! What we're talking about is separating the boyking from the man! I hope Kerry starts calling him 'son'!LOL Or "junior" and bring out the fact that Bush is just a boy who never got the respect and admiration he so desperately seeks.



Kerry's my HERO, Bush is a big ZERO
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