But Bush tried to go to Vietnam!

[sally343434]

At least that's the little tidbit being touted on the local RW radio I accidentally heard while changing stations.

The story goes that Bush tried to get sent to Vietnam but "they wouldn't take him" because he didn't "have enough flight time."

Then the second part to this fantasy is that Kerry only went to Vietnam because his "numerous attempts to get a deferment" failed.

These people are truly mentally disturbed. I can't remember what the psychological term is, but it involves accusing everyone around you of performing your misdeeds. This falls right in line, along with the chanting of "The fix is in" in Florida when it was they who did the fixing. There are many instances of this behavior over the last four years of this nightmare.

But, I guess we can just add this latest fantasy to the list of Bush's "accomplishments:"

He almost won the 2000 election.
He almost avoided a recession.
He almost stopped 9/11.
He almost caught Bin Laden.
He almost brought democracy to Iraq.

And now,

He almost went to Vietnam.

Vote for Bush! He's almost presidential!

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. You shouldn't listen to...

Winos. Really.

[WillyT]

2. Who Was The One That Said That They'd Have Gone, But For...

all the spots being taken by innercity (Read 'black') kids.

Was that DeLay???

:shrug:

[Nite Owl]

6. Yep, it was him.

[rocktivity]

3. He almost captured Saddam, but the Kurds beat him to it.

I'm having one hundred of these buttons delivered a week from Tuesday.

:headbang:
rocknation

[The_Casual_Observer]

4. The rw radio is always so angry

It's as if the rw didn't control the whole government and they were outsiders. I have come to the conclusion that we live in a dictatorship.

[Philostopher]

5. The psychological behavior you're referring to ...

is transference. And yeah, I've noticed a lot of ground-level Republicans love to indulge in it. We're trying to kill religion, even though some enormous percentage of the population calls itself Christian, and since Democrats make up at least 40% of the population, some of them must be religious. We're violent -- because they are violent, not because liberals and/or Democrats actually commit all that many violent acts. The things they'd like to do to us, they accuse us of wanting to commit.

[Ready4Change]

13. "Transference" is Rove policy.

Time after time I've seen people mention a problem with Bush that the media isn't talking about, then about a week later the Bush campaign accuses Kerry of that problem, often as pure unsupported lies, and it's all over the media.

Frankly, it's dispicable, but also brilliantly effective. It makes the Kerry campaign waste resources scaring off ghosts, and if the Kerry campaign tries to turn the tables it just sounds like kids playing the a game of "You did too. Did not. YOU did it."

All it would take to short circuit the strategy is a media that would do even a miniscule amount of investigative reporting. (Sound of crickets chirping.)

[DieboldMustDie]

14. Not transference, projection:

Freudian Projection

The following is a collection of definitions of projection from orthodox psychology texts. In this system the distinct mechanism of projecting own unconscious or undesirable characteristics onto an opponent is called Freudian Projection.

* "A defense mechanism in which the individual attributes to other people impulses and traits that he himself has but cannot accept. It is especially likely to occur when the person lacks insight into his own impulses and traits."

* "The externalisation of internal unconscious wishes, desires or emotions on to other people. So, for example, someone who feels subconsciously that they have a powerful latent homosexual drive may not acknowledge this consciously, but it may show in their readiness to suspect others of being homosexual."

* "Attributing one's own undesirabe traits to other people or agencies, e.g., an aggressive man accuses other people of being hostile."

* "The individual perceives in others the motive he denies having himself. Thus the cheat is sure that everyone else is dishonest. The would-be adulterer accuses his wife of infidelity."

* "People attribute their own undesirable traits onto others. An individual who unconsciously recognises his or her aggressive tendencies may then see other people acting in an excessively aggressive way."

* "Projection is the opposite defence mechanism to identification. We project our own unpleasant feelings onto someone else and blame them for having thoughts that we really have."

http://www.heretical.com/sexsci/bpsychol.html

[Philostopher]

18. Oop -- you're right!

Transference has more to do with attaching feelings to your counselor or therapist that never got fixed on the people who actually caused them, which is the mechanism by which many people become infatuated with their counselors/therapists. Have to adjust the settings on my psychology armchair -- been too long since I took a psych class!

[proud patriot]

7. Sniveling Whiners

:nopity:

[zulchzulu]

8. The "Almost" analogy is brilliant, Sally

I think you're on to something.

[Must_B_Free]

9. "He wasn't allowed to go"

"His dad was head of the CIA. He couldn't have gone, even if he tried."

That's my favorite.

[dogtag]

10. What are they talkin'

about? Dubby had plenty of 'flight' time. He flew off to Georgia like a pathetic phony fighter pilot on the lam.

[Dogmudgeon]

11. Woo-Hoo!

Out of the Ballpark, baby!

Brings the RBI up, too!

--bkl

[oasis]

12. He would have checked the "Vietnam duty" box but his contact lens fell out

:eyes:

[kskiska]

15. Hey, he risked his life flying those planes.

It takes a superior intellect and nerves of steel to get in the cockpit of one of those babies, not knowing if you'd ever return to your loved ones, to defend Texas from the Viet Cong.

[LoZoccolo]

16. Here's documentation to the opposite effect.

http://www.awolbush.com/kerry-vs-bush.asp

It's toward the bottom if you scroll.

[oasis]

20. Some chicken hawk checked the box "Do not volunteer for overseas."

:cry:

[hope42mro]

17. lol, I love that last part. I'm going to make a T-shirt of it!

[Nicholas_J]

19. I think the freeper arguments that Bush requested to go to Vietnam are

So ridiculously funny, because at the time Bush could have made these so called requests, National Guard units were no allowed to be sent to duty outside of the country in areas of active conflict, adn this only began at the very end of the war. It only became legal to do this towards the end of the Vietnam War during the time that plans to end the draft and begin the Volunteeer Army began. WHile it would have been possible to Bush's unit to be sent to Vietnam during the last year of the Vietnam war, at that time troops were being withdrawn and not sent, due to the Vietnamization of the War.