John Zogby is not credible right?

[Politics_Guy25]

His polls should not be taken at all seriously?

[Bicoastal]

1. (Sigh) What is he saying now?

[Politics_Guy25]

8. I don't want to get into it

I know I've been pushing it with how freaked I am lately. Just a comment he made in tonight's subscriber's section on his website. Since his credibilty isn't the best, I'll just ignore it for now.

[Lex]

2. BIG grain of salt is

what they should be taken with.

[kansasblue]

3. I been reading some research on Dailykos that showed

he was massaging the numbers for McCain.

I think Zog was doing some anti-Obama push polling too.

[StrictlyRockers]

4. Yes, Zogby's polling methods have always been suspect for various reasons.

[StrictlyRockers]

5. Yes, Zogby's polling methods have always been suspect for various reasons.

[MadBadger]

6. Zogby's polls seem to have almost an even number of Republicans and Democrats

[Zynx]

7. Yeah. He has Obama up by 16 among indies and yet only up by 4.

[Peace Patriot]

9. As I recall, Zogby was the only pollster who predicted the true winner of the 2004

presidential election: John Kerry.

Stephen Freeman has done the math. For instance, the grass roots Dems blew the Pukes away in new voter registration, nearly 60/40, in 2004. (Where did all those votes go?) There is no evidence of a successful Puke voter registration campaign that year. Further, the great majority of new voters, independent voters and former Nader voters, voted for Kerry. It is literally impossible, on the numbers, for Bush to have won. And, finally, of course, in the last presidential exit poll that we will ever see the real results of, Kerry won by 3%. Those exit polls were then doctored--in absurd ways--to force them to match the results of Diebold & brethren's 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY programming code, in all those expensive new electronic voting machines, all over the country. If you add in the voters who never got to vote--who had to leave the long lines in Democratic areas that were shorted on machines (particularly in Ohio), about a million black voters who had been purged from the vote rolls to begin with (Greg Palast estimate), voters who were unfairly challenged and forced to vote on provisional ballots which were tossed, votes that were changed from Kerry to Bush right before the voters' eyes, false Puke flyers misdirecting voters to the wrong place or wrong day for voting, etc., etc.--that is, if all the votes of Americans who wanted to vote had been counted--Kerry's win was probably in the 5-6% range, a landslide.

I don't remember what Zogby's prediction was on the size of Kerry's win. (I have a memory that it was in line with the exit polls.) But I do remember that he was the only one who predicted a Kerry win--and he has been vilified ever since by Bushwhacks and election fraud deniers.

I had to laugh at election fraud deniers who said, 'You can't prove it!' Cuz that's just the point, isn't it? With 'TRADE SECRET' code, you can't prove it. Why do they think we have 'TRADE SECRET' code in all the voting machines? It's ridiculous! Private Bushwhack corporations counting all the votes with secret code. I mean, come on.