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mindfulNJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:53 AM
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Why doesn't Kerry challenge John O'Neill to a debate?
ala Dick Cavett? He could then refute all the lies right to his fat face and wipe the floor with him...just like he did in 1972. I would PAY to see that.}(
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:54 AM
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1. O'Neill wouldn't do it
he would shrivel up from looking at the truth like a vampire who sees the light of day.
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:54 AM
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2. I think Kerry needs to debate Bush only.
Let the surrogoates take care of o'Neill.

Kerry must not lose his focus, it must be all Bush all the time.
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mindfulNJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:56 AM
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7. I disagree
This swiftboat thing has hurt him...and there are reports that Kerry is furious at his staff for it. Time to address this thing directly, IMO.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:03 AM
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18. addressing it directly
should not be mistaken for debating O'Neill. Kerry is running against Bush. He needs to debate Bush on this issue.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:14 AM
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20. Right, there's nothing Kerry can gain by giving O'Neill a platform
He should only be dealing with his opponent, the Chimp. Let Hurley, McPeak, Cleland et al deal with O'Neill.
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LondonAmerican Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:55 AM
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Would be nice
but it would also elevate O'Neill. Kerry just needs to clean Bush's clock during the presidential debates.
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shawcomm Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:55 AM
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3. Presidential candidate debating
a regular citizen (how the media would portray him) would look bad.

BAD I tell ya.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:55 AM
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4. because o'neill lies and the whore media will accept it
even after the debate they will act as if it's two different sides while ignoring that the facts are on kerry's side. it's what the assholes do now.
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fishface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:55 AM
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5. No real up side for Kerry in it..
Edited on Sun Sep-05-04 10:56 AM by fishface
O'Neill will just spin and lie his ass off like he's been doing on all the talking head shows and no one will change their minds over which version is the truth.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:56 AM
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6. O'Neill would love that. It gives him credibility and keeps Kerry off Bush
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Sporadicus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:57 AM
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8. I Don't Advocate Lending ANY Credibility to That Bottom-Feeder
I only want to hear of efforts to get his lying ass disbarred :mad:
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:58 AM
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9. Because O'Neil is not running for President and why should Kerry
give this liar credibility by debating him? And you know that O'Neil and Rove would use the opportunity to launch another set of lies that would require more wasted time counteracting.

Much better to let Bush defend SBVT in the debates with Kerry.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:59 AM
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10. NO! Better the vets who support Kerry do the challenge!
Peers, ya know. I think that would get a lot of media coverage, and have debaters whit actual knowledge prove the others to be liers!

A Presidential candidate should not be drug down to that level.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:59 AM
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11. Why give that asshole credibility?
Besides, I feel the Swiftnuts thing is starting to fade. O'Neill's 15 minutes are just about up.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:01 AM
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12. Only if Bush agrees to debate Barnes
about his getting help into the National Guard.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:01 AM
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13. There Is No Time For It
Kerry has bigger battles to fight right now, and we don't have to give O'Neill any more time on his 15 minutes of fame than he's already gotten. All the more reason why Kerry needed to come out with a strong rebuttal as soon as these SBV ads hit the air.

A Kerry debate with O'Neill would be a waste of time and only serve to make Kerry look foolish.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:01 AM
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14. Forget the debate. Sue them for libel/slandaer whatever.
These guys lie faster than people can correct them. Get mean and fight. Rip them to shreds.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:02 AM
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15. This is about the election, not about some scumbag who makes up shit and
spreads lies because he hates Kerry.

Why should Kerry waste his energy and time on O'Neill? Why give him more air time? O'Neill has already been discredited. He has an old grudge against Kerry because Kerry dared to oppose the Vietnam war after he came back.

But it probably wouldn't hurt to remind America very frequently that AWOL frat boy Bush - who did everything possible so he wouldn't have to go to Vietnam - was behind the smear campaign.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:02 AM
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16. Because Kerry's not running for chief liar of the slime boat group?
By now there's not a person in America who doesn't know what a pack of lies this is....which is why the GOP is trying to run away as fast as they can and Limbaugh is trying to tell his dittoheads it's a Clinton trick to discredit Junior Flyboy.

All Kerry addressing this horseshit at this point would do is make it seem as if there's some substance there after all.
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chicagojoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:03 AM
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17. Kerry doesn't need to waste his time on that.
O'Niell is just another piece o' crap Radical Right operative.
There's only one way to shut the Radical Right up, and that would be illegal and immoral and draw too much jail time for too many people.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:12 AM
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19. O'Neill's not running for president, Bush is
debting O'Neill is probably the #1 stupidest thing Kerry could do.
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:25 AM
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21. Not debate him
But at every opportunity point out "John O'Neill, an attack dog hired by the Nixon administration to discredit me, is now trying to discredit me for the Bush administration. Yet another similarity between the two administrations."
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:33 AM
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22. Kerry did 30 yrs ago on Dick Cavett show....
O'Neill lost that' why he's pissed..
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 12:17 PM
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23. That is just what they want
Kerry isn't running against John "Wayne" O'Neil. Rove & thugs would love nothing better than for Kerry to get blocked in by the Asscroft look-alike and keep the pressure off Georgie. I think it would be much better for Kerry to gather up some good comedy writers and when any of this crap is thrown out Kerry and Edwards could defuse it with a one-liner. Nothing would piss the Neocons more than to be laughed at, we only have to look at Zell and I think those that lean toward Bush will pay more attention to what Kerry is saying, we only have to look at Jon Stewart.

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