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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:00 PM
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Breaking: McCain hits up Russian envoy for a loan
From the Russian newswire RIA-Novosti:
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20081020/117842524.html

Russia's permanent mission to the UN has received a letter from U.S. Republican presidential candidate John McCain asking for financial support of his election campaign, the mission said in a statement on Monday.

"We have received a letter from Senator John McCain with a request for a financial donation to his presidential election campaign. In this respect we have to reiterate that neither Russia's permanent mission to the UN nor the Russian government or its officials finance political activities in foreign countries," the statement said.

According to Ruslan Bakhtin, press secretary of the Russian mission, the letter dated September 29 and signed by McCain, was addressed to Vitaly Churkin, Russia's envoy to the UN, and arrived on October 16.

The ambassador's title was not included in the letter, and was not clear why the letter had taken over two weeks to arrive.

Enclosed was a request for a donation of up to $5,000 to McCain's election campaign to be returned with a check or permission to withdraw the money from the donor's credit card until October 24
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:00 PM
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1. wow...how stupid and desperate of him
is this true?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 01:08 PM
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30. humiliating and stupid. they were on the side of Georgia, remember?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:02 PM
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2. Um...isn't that sort of...not legal?
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Dr. Death Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:02 PM
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3. Couldn't they just ask Putin the next time he's in Alaska?
Edited on Mon Oct-20-08 12:02 PM by Dr. Death
:shrug:
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:21 PM
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19. Didn't have to...
Palin just looked out her front door and saw Vitaly Churkin mouth the word "No".
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:03 PM
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4. Wait what? McCain is asking for campaign money from the Russians?
Is that even legal?
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:04 PM
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5. I'm taking this story with a giant chunk of salt...
...but IF it's true, it's hilariously wrong.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:05 PM
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8. Yea me too

This seems so absurd I can't actually believe even McLame would be this idiotic. I would probably LMAO so hard I'd faint if found to be true and if the idiot media actually picked up on it.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:04 PM
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6. Gotta be a set up--Mccain's campaign will whine
that the Obama campaign perpetrated this hoax.....

Have they got a pdf of the letter????
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:05 PM
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7. Weird
That is just bazaar....
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:06 PM
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9. If the American press can substantiate this ,it would really
Edited on Mon Oct-20-08 12:06 PM by sufrommich
be a story. Until they do, the McCain campaign will either deny it or hint that the Russians must want Obama to win and are helping him out. I hope it's true,I'd like to see the McCain try to spin that.
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Schulzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:06 PM
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10. This campaign is ridiculous. Speechless. nt
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:07 PM
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11. My guess is that it was a direct mailing effort that wasn't fully vetted
Direct mail efforts often end up going out to all sorts of inappropriate names and addresses. Depends on where they bought the mailing list and if any effort was made to check the list. I don't get the impression that this was a unique letter sent just to the mission.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:10 PM
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14. What??? the McCain campaing not fully vet something?
Where would you get THAT impression? :wow:
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:10 PM
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12. This can't be real
Please tell me this is satire. If this is true it is pretty sad. Why would he ask the Russians when he wanted to invade their country a few months ago.
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 01:09 PM
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31. It's true.
I did a Google search and it's an AP story with quotes from the McCain camp. They're claiming it was a mistake.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:10 PM
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13. k&r
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:12 PM
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15. If this is true, they should release the letter to the media so we can see it
for ourselves.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:18 PM
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16. Yeah, right. After the "We are all Georgians" comment.
Legal or not. What would you do if you were Russia?
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:19 PM
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17. This is a joke!!! Not real!
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:20 PM
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18. Can't be true.
Non-citizens can't donate to Presidential campaigns.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:23 PM
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21. My bigger qestion is the request for $5k. well over the legal limit
that to me is more imporant than the mailing list error....
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:26 PM
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22. Some of that money can go to the RNC...
So that didn't raise flags to me as much as the donation request to non-citizens.

What's the story behind this? A joke?
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 01:46 PM
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34. They are fundraising now for the RNC
Which has a $28,500 limit.

Read the disclaimer at the bottom here: http://www.mccainpalinvictory2008.com/
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:25 PM
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41. Can the RNC take money from foriegn nationals?
I assume that they can. Now ofcourse they are going to flip this into Pro-McCain advertising,
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:23 PM
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20. Probably a McCain campaign PsyOp to get Obama supporters to throw dirt n/t
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:37 PM
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23. We're all Georgians but can you spare a five? nt
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:39 PM
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24. Now THAT sounds Un-American and/or illegal
Perhaps McCain should be investigated, eh? :evil laugh:
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:40 PM
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25. Politico has it now too
and claim that Bahktin confirmed it to politico ...I would still like to see if this is true though before jumping to conclusions...just so unbelievable. Yet, the McCain campaign has shocked me before.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:43 PM
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26. I have a hard time believing this.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:44 PM
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27. Socialist commie-lover!
:silly:
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:52 PM
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28. Isn't this illegal?
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 01:06 PM
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29. I bet a McCain staffer got the idea watching "Burn After Reading"
These guys are about as organized as the Keystone Cops

Okay, so they're willing to publicly chastise and saber-rattle a little against Russia on behalf of Georgia, but still a few weeks later ask Russia's envoy for donations.

McCain-Palin: Staggering Hypocrisy First with Hate-talk for Dessert!


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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 01:11 PM
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32. McCain is being controlled by foriegn financial interests?! Worse: he's seeking their control!
Hfff, how can you even trust a man with a foreign sounding name like "McCain"?
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 01:58 PM
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39. Actually his name is an old biblical name:
Edited on Mon Oct-20-08 01:58 PM by olegramps
It is from the very first generation of mankind. McCain means son of Cain. Very appropriate. He is was also know by his classmates as McNasty.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 01:26 PM
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33. If true either McCain or someone on his staff has lost their minds.
I cannot conceive of a stranger campaign.
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Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 01:47 PM
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35. It doesn't sound like a personal appeal for a loan
Edited on Mon Oct-20-08 01:48 PM by Alpharetta
According to Ruslan Bakhtin, press secretary of the Russian mission, the letter dated September 29 and signed by McCain, was addressed to Vitaly Churkin, Russia's envoy to the UN, and arrived on October 16.

The ambassador's title was not included in the letter, and was not clear why the letter had taken over two weeks to arrive.

Enclosed was a request for a donation of up to $5,000


That doesn't sound like a loan-for-favors kind of thing. Doesn't compare to Reagan's pre-election shenanigans promising missiles for hostages to Iran.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 01:48 PM
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37. yup...more great vetting from the McCain camp, heh.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 01:47 PM
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36. This is outrageous!!! Really, it is.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 01:49 PM
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38. wont believe it until theres another source. n/t
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:04 PM
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40. Ben Smith/Politico has cofirmation form the Russian Envoy
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