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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:20 PM
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It's official - * too much of a man for Kerry
heard it on tweety while flipping (will soon be taking the "news" stations out of the flip rotation).

Tweety - "Out in the real world you have to be macho, and John Kerry hasn't proven himself yet".

That's right, gang. The golfing cheerleader is more of a man than the wind-surfing, snowboarding hockey player. The draft-dodging deserter is tougher than the 5-medal VN vet. The pansy who lets others throw mud is more studly than the one who wants weekly debates. The guy whose daughters are drunken floozies is more virile than the one whose daughters are successful adults.

Either that, or Chris is REALLY excited about learning that * might be gay.

:puke:
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A_Possum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:23 PM
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1. UP is DOWN, Black is White
The guy who stuffs socks in his drawers is the macho man.

Yeah right, Chris.

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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:23 PM
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2. I concur with your diagnosis, Doc
Edited on Sun Sep-05-04 10:24 PM by rocknation
"We’re proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who’s physical, who’s not a complicated guy like Clinton or even like Dukakis or Mondale, all those guys, McGovern. They want a guy who’s president. Women like a guy who’s president. Check it out. The women like this war."

-- Chris Matthews, May 1, 2003

:headbang:
rocknation
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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:26 PM
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9. "women like this war" -wtf?
tell me he did not say that.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:50 PM
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19. I was so apalled by it I tracked down the transcript
Keep in mind that this was during Georgie's flight suit stunt.



:headbang:
rocknation
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 12:14 AM
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23. Somebody needs to send a certain photo to Tweety:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 01:04 AM
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27. Oh, now, really! That's just a trick of the light--isn't it?


:headbang:
rocknation
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 07:17 AM
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31. Whatever. . .

it does seem the sort of image that grabs Tweety's attention, don't you think?
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Ishoutandscream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 09:14 AM
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37. My God!! No kidding
I personally don't like any women who like war.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:27 PM
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11. Matthews loves to talk shit about anything
We have seen him take any side just to be able to talk more shit. He can't be relied on to stick with one side or the other, the zell deal is an example.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:53 PM
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20. Also not as complicated....


I think the word "simple" is a more apt description of Buxh.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:23 PM
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3. What is macho about

Employing a trillion dollar military to bomb little brown people 5000 miles (or whatever) away?

HOW THE HELL IS THAT MACHO? How Tweety? HOW is it?

You know what is tough...Doing the difficult thing. Bombing the shit out of inferior opponents is easy.


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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:23 PM
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4. tweety is a tool
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:24 PM
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5. Dodging shrapnel in Vietnam, not manly enough for Tweety?
Needs the sock in the crotch with a dress-up flight suit and a cowboy hat before Tweety will deem a guy manly? Good God....
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ezee Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:35 PM
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14. Tweety has no room to talk
he "served" in the Peace Corps. NOthing wrong with that ,but he couldn"t muster the courgage that John Kerry has.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:25 PM
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6. Shrubbie is full of macho posturing, but he is really a girly man
although I don't mean to be insulting to girly men.

I just think it's totally hypocritical. Tweety says Kerry hasn't proved himself yet. When did the Chimp prove himself? When he was running away on 9/11? When he was hiding out in Alabama? When he was cowering behind a bottle of beer rather than become a self sufficient adult?

Tweety just has a hard on for Bushie.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:25 PM
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7. How's this for manly? Bush is scared of horses.
:D
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:26 PM
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8. Matthews is either bi-polar or a schizophrenic
not sure which.
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ezee Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:37 PM
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16. Probably Both
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:26 PM
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10. BLUNDERWOMAN
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:28 PM
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12. Tweety is a whore
Edited on Sun Sep-05-04 10:31 PM by goclark
How could he say something like that!

Have you noticed that ALL of the members of the Media have lean waaaay into the Bush camp since the Republican convention?

It was bad before but this week end is the absolute pits.
Karl Rove must have promised Tweety some private time in a candle lit room with Georgie.

What is this Macho stuff all about? The nerve!!
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:34 PM
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13. But, but, but....isn't Bush gay? n/t
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:36 PM
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15. In the Last Days
good will be known as evil, and evil known as good. The GOP are truly evil. They kill the innocent, they take from the poor to give to the rich. The certainly not are Christian.
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fairfaxvadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:39 PM
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17. By what standard is Bush manly though???
I mean, you hear this crap and all the attendant characteristics that include the swagger and the shoot from the hip nonsense.

But what concrete evidence is there that George Bush has a manly bone in his body??

Kerry shoots (I can't recall ever seeing Shrub with a rifle, has anyone else?), knows how to clean what he shoots, does all these very high-risk sporting activities that The Doctor mentioned, is well-read, well-educated, well-spoken, intelligent, well-groomed, well-mannered, DANG!!! Where can I find another John Kerry for myself???

That is a turn on, not some lazy, smart-ass, holier than thou, clumsy fool.
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K. F. Gibbons Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:50 PM
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18. Pathetic republicans
These pathetic chest thumpers must use a failed political ideology to define their own bizarre since of masculinity that boils down to simple talking tough. From welfare to taxes, these fake( pull you self up by your boot straps) dip shits talk tough, yet when push comes to shove, they run and cry like little girls.
The biggest pussy's I know are republicans.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 09:22 AM
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39. Hi K.F. Gibbons!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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K. F. Gibbons Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 05:16 PM
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40. spankyou very much
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:11 PM
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21. The infant who can't face a committee without Uncle Dick is more of a man.
* is so fucking "manly," he needs to be told where and when (and probably how) to piss!

Even then, Uncle Dick probably has to flush for him.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:32 PM
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22. Tweet must get some of his material from convos he has on 1-900-hot-stud
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 12:18 AM
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25. Are you saying Tweety's gay?
Next you'll say Ahnold used to strut around in a speedo in front of a bunch of admiring men.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 08:51 AM
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33. LOL!
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 12:16 AM
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24. so where are the DUers....
who were calling him their god 2 weeks ago? hahahaha....people here were jumping on his bandwagon....i told them that they would be let down big time!
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 12:34 AM
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26. Matthews is paid to play..its entertainment to these people
Bush is a cheerleader...chickenhawk...screwd Iraq and the economy
and Kerry has to prove himself? Yep let me run right out and follow chris's advice and vote Bush because he is so much of a man. ROFL..
I bet old Laura could tell another story about his macho manliness.
When Kerry was dodging bullets, Bush was dodging draft !
Hey...the man cannot even ride a bicycle. I say lets put this man on a Harley and see how long he stays up on the thing !
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 01:39 AM
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28. Hey, I'm with you on this one...
macho want somebody ELSE to take the bullet, then put down the REAL man who took some shrapnel for him. That's what Bush needed in life, some shrapnel in the ass! Nothing macho about that *W* person.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 03:00 AM
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29. The punk-ass little frat boy too much of a man..???
Edited on Mon Sep-06-04 03:00 AM by WillW
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! HAHAHAHHAA!!! Geezus, you can't be serious...

Here's the real George W. Bush - A microcephalic chimp:
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 06:51 AM
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30. Image is everything
Bush has the macho image down cold.

The media lets him wear the mask and celebrates him doing so.

Kerry is a real man but because real men are not one dimensional, he comes off as somehow less of a man.

Bush is not a he man, he just plays one on TV. That for a great many people in this country is enough.
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daydreamer Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 08:30 AM
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32. Bush macho image
Totally agree. Any idea how we can expose his fake macho image?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 09:04 AM
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34. I guess Kerry should put on a cowboy hat
And say things like "We will smoke them out of their caves!"
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 09:08 AM
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35. Oh GAWD -- read Frank Rich on the "manliness" thing from today's NYT
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/05/arts/05RICH.html

It begins:

ONLY in an election year ruled by fiction could a sissy who used Daddy's connections to escape Vietnam turn an actual war hero into a girlie-man.

As we leave the scripted conventions behind us, that is the uber-scenario that has locked into place, brilliantly engineered by the president of the United States, with more than a little unwitting assistance from his opponent. It's a marvel, really. Even a $10,000 reward offered this year by Garry Trudeau couldn't smoke out a credible eyewitness to support George W. Bush's contention that he showed up to defend Alabama against the Viet Cong in 1972. Yet John F. Kerry, who without doubt shed his own blood and others' in the vicinity of the Mekong, not the Mississippi, is now the deserter and the wimp.

Don't believe anyone who says that this will soon fade, and that the election will henceforth turn on health-care policy or other wonkish debate. Any voter who's undecided by now in this polarized election isn't sitting around studying the fine points. In a time of fear, the only battle that matters is the broad-stroked cultural mano a mano over who's most macho. And so both parties built their weeklong infotainments on militarism and masculinity, from Mr. Kerry's toy-soldier "reporting for duty" salute in Boston to the special Madison Square Garden runway for Mr. Bush's acceptance speech, a giant phallus thrusting him into the nation's lap, or whatever. ("To me that says strength" is how his media adviser, Mark McKinnon, forecast the set's metaphorical impact to The Times.) Though pundits said that Republicans pushed moderates center stage last week to placate suburban swing voters, the real point was less to soften the president's Draconian image on abortion than to harden his manly bona fides. Hence Mr. Bush was fronted by a testosterone-heavy lineup led by a former mayor who did not dally to read a children's book on 9/11, a senator who served in the Hanoi Hilton rather than the "champagne unit" of the Texas Air National Guard, and a governor who can play the role of a warrior on screen more convincingly than can a former Andover cheerleader gallivanting on an aircraft carrier.


It's all about ACTING macho. :puke:
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 09:11 AM
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36. any column that calls Bush a sissy in the first line
is a keeper. :toast:

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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 09:15 AM
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38. "So, obviously no woman could become Pres., Tweety?"
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