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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:06 PM
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Dam If This Is'nt Grounds For Impeachment If Can Be Proven!
WASHINGTON - Two of the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers had a support network in the United States that included agents of the Saudi government, and the Bush administration and FBI blocked a congressional investigation into that relationship, Sen. Bob Graham wrote in a book to be released Tuesday.

The discovery of the financial backing of the two hijackers "would draw a direct line between the terrorists and the government of Saudi Arabia, and trigger an attempted cover-up by the Bush administration," the Florida Democrat wrote.

And in Graham's book, Intelligence Matters, obtained by the Miami Herald on Saturday, he makes clear that some details of that financial support from Saudi Arabia were in the 27 pages of the congressional inquiry's final report that were blocked from release by the administration, despite the pleas of leaders of both parties on the House and Senate intelligence committees.

Graham also revealed that Gen. Tommy Franks told him on Feb. 19, 2002, just four months after the invasion of Afghanistan, that many important resources - including the Predator drone aircraft crucial to the search for Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida leaders - were being shifted to prepare for a war against Iraq.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0905graham05.html
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:09 PM
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1. I have.. a prediction.
With this book, the Kitty Kelley book, the meme about his bounce collapsing so quickly, and the continuing mess in Iraq, Georgie is going to have a rough September.

October will bring the debates and the release of F9/11.

It looks as though we have some good ammo left in this race.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:11 PM
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3. Trust me . . . that's not all.
I love nasty politics.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:40 PM
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10. Now teasing from a newbie isn't fair!
But, it doen't prevent me from welcoming you to DU! :hi: Enjoy the experience, but be careful, it can be addicting!

Wish you could expound on the "that's not all".

:hi: Welcome!
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:43 PM
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11. Oh?
Are they gonna have somebody spill the beans about his visits to Mexican brothels?
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 06:21 PM
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16. Hint?
Can you give us just a little a hint?? I want to know! :)

I'm a newbie too but I'd like to welcome you as well. :hi: (DUers, is this okay?)

-wildflower
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 06:45 PM
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17. Of course it is okay for a newbie to welcome a newbie!
It is also very nice of you to extend the greeting!

Welcome wildflower to DU :hi:

I too want to know what "that's not all" is all about!
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 07:21 PM
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21. Thank you!
And hi to you too! At the risk of turning this thread into a mutual admiration society... :) But hey, would that be so bad? :grouphug:

(Okay, maybe that would belong in the lounge. :))

-wildflower
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muchacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:11 PM
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4. memealicious
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:13 PM
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5. &Bush has to debate a prosecutor,Cheney a trial lawyer.
Edited on Mon Sep-06-04 04:19 PM by Algorem
And verrrry good ones.
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muchacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:10 PM
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2. I guess this will answer the critics
of F911 regarding the point Moore might be trying to make showing how tight the Bushies and the Sauds are.


hello, Carville et al THIS IS THE NEW 527 AD!!!
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:15 PM
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6. We do have plenty of ammo left.
The small number of undecideds are the only ones that are going to be converted. I believe that the people on the Bush side now will continue to be for Bush and the people on the Kerry side will continue to be for Kerry.

What we have to be careful of is exhausting the undecideds with too much negativity. It will be a fine line. I think we have a better chance of winning them over with more positive information and focusing on what we see as the important differences for the future.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:18 PM
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7. how about , "I'm Bandar Bush and I support George Bush for
reelection, he's been great for the Saudi's!"

I hope that a debate question ask about Bush's close Saudi ties and why 11 of the hi-jackers were Saudi's yet we never even batted an eye in their direction?

Next question, was there a flight on 9/13 that flew out Bin Ladens family, if so, why weren't they questioned?
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:18 PM
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8. Graham's comments will have legs.
This story wont be going away anytime soon. The source is too reputable and the allegations too serious!
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muchacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:36 PM
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9. I hope you're right
Remember O'Neill, Wilson et al?

Right down the media memory hole.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 07:11 PM
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19. This is different
It's a well known fact that this administration redacted those 27 lines and now we know thru Graham what those lines contained. Tell the American people that the terrorists involved in 911 were funded by the Saudi government then show shrub and his gang did everything to cover it up and let's see how they handle that.

If this isn't looked at by others as borderline treason nothing will be.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:46 PM
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12. the new ad with Bush speech at convention is good
Bushspeech and then facts on top. right on.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 05:04 PM
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15. CNN today with Judy and an offscreen narrator were saying that
Bush didn't issue the 17% increase....poor baby. And comments about 45 million without healthcare....they had to remind us all that under Clinton it was 40 million. The rise of 5 million under Bush's watch certainly isn't Bush's fault!!! The fact that he didn't even TRY to solve the problem...wasn't Bush's fault either!!

Gee, how interested they are in analyzing Kerry ads........
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wabeewoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 06:47 PM
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18. I saw CNN for the first time
in ages over the weekend and I couldn't believe how biased they were. I think they are as bad as faux because they are more subtle but just as biased. I wish Ted Turner still owned enough of CNN to make a difference!
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:03 PM
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22. they must read their RNC memos OR ELSE!
I wish Dems had that much clout over their jobs....
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:53 PM
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13. Ah, remember Prince Bandar and his generous wife?
She was the one who was funneling money to the hijackers. Of course, the FBI cleared her almost immediately. In the meantime, Bandar still gets to spend quality time with W, down on the ranch.




Since this topic is on the table again here's a couple of articles from a couple of years ago, that go into all the gory details.


http://www.hvk.org/articles/1202/52.html

Bush and the Saudi princess

Author: Mark Steyn
Publication: The Spectator
Date: November 30, 2002

Mark Steyn says that the President's cosying up to the Saudis is making a mockery of the war on terrorism New Hampshire

I always like the bit in the Bond movie where 007 and the supervillain meet face to face - usually at the supervillain's marine research facility or golf course or, in this latest picture, his Icelandic diamond mine. Bond knows the alleged marine biologist is, in fact, an evil mastermind bent on world domination. The evil mastermind knows Bond is a British agent. But both men go along with the pretence that the other fellow is what he's claiming to be, and the exquisitely polite encounter invariably ends with the mastermind purring his regrets about being unable to be more helpful. 'But perhaps we shall meet again, Mr Bond,' he says, as the Oriental manservant shows 007 to the door.

It must have been a bit like that when Prince Bandar and his family dropped by the Bush ranch at Crawford a couple of months ago. Bush must have known for the best part of a year that in the run-up to 11 September Bandar's wife, Princess Haifa, had been making regular transfers from her Washington bank account to a couple of known associates of the terrorists. Bandar must have known Bush knew. Each party knows the other party knows they're engaged in a charade, but they observe the niceties, with Laura showing Princess Haifa the ranch, Bush hailing the 'eternal friendship' between the Saudi and American people, and Bandar regretting, as the Saudis always do, that they're unable to be more helpful.

It would be nice if George W. Bond would kick over the cocktails and lob a grenade into Oilfingers refinery, but instead he and the sheikhs are still teasing each other. In this latest curious episode, the official explanation, if I can type it without giggling, goes something like this: Princess Haifa, the wife of the Saudi ambassador to Washington, gets a letter from a woman in Virginia she's never heard of complaining about steep medical bills. Being a friendly sort of princess, she immediately authorises the Riggs Bank in Washington to make payment by cashier's cheque of several thousand dollars per month to this woman, no questions asked. How come I can never get hold of a princess like that when I need one?



http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/27/04/news1.shtml&h=248&w=300&sz=13&tbnid=ll07-dP5J8UJ:&tbnh=91&tbnw=110&start=17&prev=/images%3Fq%3DBandar%2BBush%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG

Funding Terror
Investigating the role of Saudi banks.


December 20, 2002


Having a quarter of the world?s oil reserves may mean never having to say you?re sorry to Washington. Instead, when Newsweek reported in December that checks from the wife of the Saudi ambassador to the United States had been sent to associates of two of the September 11 hijackers, Saudi and Washington officials revved up their spin machines.

When the reports surfaced, Haifa bint Faisal, wife of Saudi ambassador Bandar bin Sultan, acknowledged that she sent nearly $150,000 to the wife of a Saudi living in San Diego. The recipient, Majeda Ibrahin Dweikat, signed over some of the checks to a friend whose husband, Omar al-Bayoumi (with Dweikat?s husband), helped hijackers Khalid Almidhar and Nawaf Alhazmi find housing in San Diego, open bank accounts, get Social Security cards, pay expenses and arrange flying lessons in Florida.

U.S. authorities suspected days after September 11 that al-Bayoumi, by then in Birmingham, England, had helped the hijackers. The British arrested him and, in a search of his house, found phone records showing calls to two diplomats at the Saudi Embassy in Washington. Lacking conclusive evidence, they released him, and he is now believed back in Saudi Arabia.

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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:58 PM
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14. Bush used our fear to settle an old family vendetta
Edited on Mon Sep-06-04 05:01 PM by PurityOfEssence
When we were weak and scared from 9-11, George W. Bush personally used our fear to deceive us into letting him settle a personal score against Saddam Hussein. He also used our collective fear to destroy union protection for 170,000 government workers, holding up the formation of the Department of Homeland Security that he had fought from the beginning.

It's a game for him, and his loyalties are not to the American People. He literally cares more about the Saudi Royal Family than he does about non-wealthy Americans. When John Edwards said that "the only thing George Bush respects is wealth", he wasn't just whistling Dixie; Bush cares about wealth above all else, and that transcends national boundaries.
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A_Possum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 07:14 PM
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20. Hit the books!
MR. RUSSERT: Senator Graham, I'll give you the last word.

SEN. GRAHAM: And I would say that one thing this administration needs to do is to come clean with the American people. They are dramatically overusing classification, not for national security reasons but in order to protect political embarrassment. I think we lay out the case in this book of the extent to which Saudi Arabia was a key part of making 9/11 happen, and yet this administration has taken every step to obfuscate, avoid and cover up Saudi Arabia's actions.

MR. RUSSERT: To be continued. Bob Graham, new s--book, "Intelligence Matters: The CIA, FBI, Saudi Arabia, the Failure of America's War on Terror."

Meet the Press, 9-5-04



Amazon

Purchase with the Kitty Kelley book. Knock that freeper "unfit" trash off the lists.
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