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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 06:07 PM
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We need to attack Bush's strong point - the RW ECHO CHAMBER
Attack THEM and we will bring Bush down. Anyone disagree?

Lick Laura's Bush - Drop Bush Not Bombs! - FUCK BUSH
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 06:09 PM
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1. Does Bush have a strong point?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 07:47 PM
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6. Yes, money and media
Personally, his strongest point is being able to snort a whole gram of coke up one nostril through an empty bic pen casing. He learned that from suking off all the other guys in Skull & Bones.

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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 06:10 PM
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2. Bush must be attacked where he's strong - security and character
Kerry has to turn Bush's positives into negatives - that's what Bush's campaign has been doing to Kerry for the entire campaign. We are off to a late start, so we will have to work twice as hard!
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 07:50 PM
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7. * is not strong on security and to say so is to repeat a Republican meme
He failed the American people. He had a report in his physical hands entitled "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike Inside The US" a full MONTH before 9/11 and he failed us. He went on vacation.

His strength is his echo chamber, it's the Rovian network of paid and unpaid shills that is the strength of the entire Republican party, IMHO.

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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 11:20 PM
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17. People think he is strong on security, so we need to hit him on that
Perception is reality in this campaign.
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pearl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 06:10 PM
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3. Hell Yes!
We must organize against echoe chamber.
I know how to do it but honestly, I need to
be on the phone with people.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 06:12 PM
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4. good point
The family connections with Rev. Sun Myung Moon would be an interesting place to start.

However, Hillary didn't get very far fighting against the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (which she identified).
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 07:52 PM
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8. Hillary and Bill both held their own against it
Both were elected under the glare and power of the entire GOP smear system. They might be a good place to start looking for ideas on how to defeat it.

I think it's a snake, and it will not survive if the head is cut off - hence we need to go after the Murdochs, Moons, etc.

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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 06:13 PM
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5. Media Pundits Need to be attacked or accused of Being Bush Operatives
There is plenty of film to prove this point. OUTFOXED?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 07:59 PM
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11. DEMS need to only agree to live, unedited interviews....
...if they plan on doing this.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 08:02 PM
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12. That is good strategery, but the RWECHO will drown out any gaffes
...and twist Kerry into pretzels.

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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 08:19 PM
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15. Like they are doing already & have been for 8 years?
I'm not saying doing less interviews- I'm saying only to agree to live,or at least unedited interviews.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 08:25 PM
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16. I agreed with you
Sorry if it didn't seem like it. I just added a dose of reality in that unscripted interviews are MUCH better than scripted ones, but they won't be as effective if we don't destroy the RWECHO chamber first.

You know, I was thinking, despite them having all the money, the seeds of their destruction exist in language, and the transmission of that worldwide efficiently and uncensored.

The Internet is the medium. Language is the foil. The destruction of the RWECHO is the goal.

I think we may already be well on the way to defeating it, and I suspect that election 2004 might be the first time the people win against the snake. I don't want to be too hopeful, but when you think about it, we're doing a damn good job on the net in such a short and penniless space of time. DU is a prime example of this.

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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 07:54 PM
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9. Video clip from Olbermann
Talking Points

I was surprised when I originally saw this several months ago-it was the first time I SAW the faxed sheets that the White House sent to the anchors.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 12:05 AM
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18. How come there are no scans of these "blast faxes" on the web?
None that I've seen so far, anyway. :shrug:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 07:57 PM
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10. What are they going to do to us if we do this?
Report even more lies about us?

Ignore even MORE Bush scandals & fuck-ups?

I say we do exactly that. Most folks dont trust the media- we may come off as crusaders.

They say it is unwise to attack anyone with a warehouse full of ink & paper, but I am open to the idea, only because I dont think they could be any harsher against us than they already are.
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 08:03 PM
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13. He's running on "Strong and Steady Leadership"
Incredibly, many people believe this is his greatest strength.

September 11. His actions that day? If we played hardball, we could destroy him.



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Pax Argent Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 08:09 PM
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14. Agreed.
I harp on this constantly to any RW who stands still long enough. The two points I make are:

Regarding the "Liberal" Media. My belief is that the smartest thing the Rethugs did was to paint the media as "Liberal", which is patently absurd. I point out, "Who pays the media's bills, us or the corporations?"

The second point is the non-stop 24/7 cheerleading for Shrubster on the cable news shows, especially FOX. Would anything good for you require this much marketing to keep it sold?

The complete lack of objectivity on the parts of Hannity, Rush, et al. clearly points to a sales campaign. I argue it as such. When they point out that the RW Echo Chamber has spoken of how Bush has failed them, point out that the only times this is true is when Bush is just not RW enough, and they always caveat it with, "What are you going to do, vote for a LIBERAL?"

If we can get them to acknowledge that they are being manipulated, they will turn violently on their masters. The hard part is getting them to accept it without turning on you.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 12:24 AM
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19. YES YES YES
If we attack that, they have nothing to run on ever again.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 03:18 AM
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20. kick
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