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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 09:18 PM
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New threat of anti-Kerry Vietnam Vets ad from NewsMax (sooo scared!)
Edited on Mon Sep-06-04 09:19 PM by RatTerrier
:scared:

I don't normally post bullshit articles from NewsSux (or "freeper fan fiction", as I have called it) but this one was so funny I had to share it.

Seems there's yet another angry ad from so-called Vietnam Vets who dislike our candidate. And they're hitting the South Carolina airwaves with an ad campaign that will "leave the Democratic nominee sorry he ever mentioned Vietnam as a campaign issue".

Here's the funny part: Who's leading this group? Our old friend, Ted Sampley. Yes, the same Ted Sampley that John McCain filed a restraining order against. And heeeeeeeessss baaaaaaaaaccccckkkkkk!

Sorry for the NewsSux link, but I saw it posted over at Freeperland, and I deemed it funny enough to share with you all. Here it is. Enter at your own risk:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/9/6/114453.shtml

Take this with many grains of salt! Better grab the salt block from the basement, if you have one. Or just back up the salt truck.
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A_Possum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 09:21 PM
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1. The Truth About Ted Sampley
They'd better be a little careful about using that guy, he's a con man.

Ted Sampley

Ted Sampley is head of the Vietnam Veterans Against Kerry and is responsible for the 1992 fake photo of John Kerry shooting an American MIA in Vietnam with the caption: Kerry eliminates another MIA from his discrepancy list. Sampley has a long history of working against both John Kerry & John McCain dating to the POW/MIA hearings. He even served jail time for starting a fight with John McCain's staff. Sampley was also given a restraining order.

Sampley has called John McCain the Manchurian Candidate and accused him of being brainwashed by the Vietnamese and being a KGB Spy. Additionally, McCain has pointed out that Sampley seems to exploit sensitive issues such as the POW/MIA hearings as a means of making money. McCains words were, "Sampley has a nose for publicity and knack for making money from invented controversies." On his current website, Sampley has another money making scheme selling bumper stickers and lapel pins that read Stop Hanoi John Kerry.

Mrs. Keating puzzles over the perverse pride Mr. Sampley takes in his work, which included torturing the family of an American POW in Iraq with fabricated details of his cruel death at the hands of an Iraqi mob. When the pilot was subsequently freed alive, Mr. Sampley dismissed his fraud as necessary to publicize the plight of POWs. Mr. Sampley excuses all his scams as necessary to advance a noble cause. Mrs. Keating reveals that his likely real motive is more mundane: money. She notes his earnings from his T-shirt concession located near the Vietnam Veterans Memorial were nearly $2 million over three years. He keeps his overhead costs down by not paying a dime to his employees." -John McCain
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 09:22 PM
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2. I thought all of this stuff was outlawed.
How is this being done? Wasn't all this crap outlawed?
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 09:28 PM
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6. I think 527s can still air ads
so long as they are not funded by corporations or unions. The groups can only be funded by individuals.

I do know MoveOn has three organizations. MoveOn.org is a 501(c), and they also have a seperate 527 and a PAC.

It's all so confusing.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 09:23 PM
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3. Question about SBV
You would think this is the first time John Kerry ever ran for public office. If these guys are not being backed by the Bush boys, then why didn't they express their displeasure with Kerry in any of his previous elections?
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A_Possum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 09:27 PM
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5. Sampley's been after McCain and Kerry...
ever since they worked together to make sure there were no POW/MIA's left in Vietnam and then opened relations again.

Sampley has taken advantage of the misery of a group of POW families who will not believe their sons are not still there.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 09:24 PM
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4. NORTH Carolina
Actually, the ads are playing in NORTH Carolina where the VVAJK are not a registered PAC. Nor are they a registered federal PAC. I'll be contacting the State Board of Elections about their illegal activities tomorrow.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 09:38 PM
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7. Any chance Kerry will win NC?
And is there a campaign?
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 07:30 AM
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16. Yes
A chance, yes. It's an uphill battle, but there are a couple of encouraging signs. One is that Bush's poll lead (51/45) is currently significantly smaller than his margin of victory over Gore in 2000 (56/43). Another is that Kerry/Edwards are campaigning here. Kerry is in Greensboro today.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 09:42 PM
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8. Good luck. I will back you up
but I came up with nothing but a headache when I contacted the NC State Board of Elections about Elizabeth Dole's push-polls in 2002. The Chair of the Board was very condescending and impolite in his emails.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 07:32 AM
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17. Thanks
Since I don't live in the markets where the ads are supposedly running, I'll be relying on the article posted in the original thread. Maybe if they hear from a couple of people we'll have more of an impact. I wonder if it would be worth contacting the stations directly.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:05 PM
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9. I'm more worried about
the other new 527 that going to start ads running tomorrow. That's going to suck big time. :( I hope Kerry's ready for it.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:20 PM
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11. Which one? MoveOnForAmerica?
They're a bunch of sleaze artists who don't have the money for big media buys.

I heard their budget so far is about $200K. That'll buy about 2 or 3 airings. :eyes:
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:43 PM
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14. That's the one.
Yes, they're sleaze artists...professional smear artisans with a record of effectiveness though. The 200K budget might take them a little farther than 2 or 3 airings depending on how they're packaging it. Plus, they don't have to provide the money upfront. They're billed on a 30day ad cycle. If people start making donations...

Well, maybe I'm just being a fretful frannie. I hope so.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:07 PM
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10. Jeez, is this the new face of the republican party? Liars and thieves who
victimize the families of POWs, make money of the tragic events of other's lives, and just plain damn dumb white trash with money. Then their fearless leader lies to Congress, to the citizens of this country, while their vice fearless leader has found the perfect scheme to line his pockets and the pockets of his cronies and all it costs this country is every dime they can steal from the US taxpayers and the blood and the lives of about 1,000 service people.

Poor Abraham Lincoln must be spinning at about a million rpms a minute.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:23 PM
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12. Didja notice
they are trying to give away the swift liars for douche book on that site?
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:39 PM
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13. how can McCain just sit back and watch this?
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:57 PM
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15. Thanks for posting this
I have been looking for this as I had heard about this from a hardcore repub the other day.

I have printed out the Sampley info and am prepared for the discrediting when it hits

Thanks

http://www.independentsforkerry.org/uploads/media/vvajk.html
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 07:40 AM
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18. Thanks for that link, midwayer
This crap is getting old. Their hubris will backfire on them.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 08:11 AM
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19. Ask the Freepers...
How they liked Ted Sampley when Ted Sampley called poppa Bush a traitor and a coward who let his own men die.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 08:24 AM
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20. Ted Sampley is a psycho
Read all about Bush Sr's alleged cowardice in WWII, here it is, from Ted Sampley, the chief veteran smear artist himself.

Seems he has problems with a lot of war heroes.

http://www.usvetdsp.com/story46.htm
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