I googled it first. I looked it up on Snopes and FightTheSmears. Still need help please.

[Ian David]

Some person who CLAIMS to be a U.S. Marine says that 400,000 troops have pledged to quit the military if Obama wins.

It's damn unpatriotic to accuse our brave men and women of planning mutiny (Sedition? Treason?) against their elected government.

So, the possibilities are:

1) This guy is lying. In which case, if he *is* in the military, accusing his fellow troops of mutiny may be illegal.
2) This guy has been lied to. I'd like to find out by whom. And trust me, I looked.
3) This guy has knowledge that 400,000 U.S. troops have pledged to commit what is a capitol offense under military law.

The conversation took place through Upoc.com text messaging.

So, basically I have to decide whether this is simply something that needs to be debunked, or something that needs to be reported to someone.


The messages are to be read from the bottom up to the top (most recent is top, oldest is bottom).



Oh, and he also thinks G. Gordon Liddy was right that you should shoot federal agents. He says you need to shoot them TWICE.


USA Terror Alert
handle: usaterror
#members: 289
type: private
allows pics, no polls, no voice
mms to: [e-mail] who can send msgs: All
who can invite: All
SMS reply goes to sender
founder: foolmaker
since: Oct 17, 2001
description: This group is for posting/receiving alerts about breaking news and activities related to terrorist attacks in the USA. NO CHAT, JUST VITAL ALERTS. VIOLATORS WILL BE BOOTED.
http://www.upoc.com/group.jsp?group=usaterror

[Occam Bandage]

1. What help would you need? He's just a fringy liar.

[SmokingJacket]

2. Sounds to me more like someone's prediction...

rather than a pledge. I mean, like they'd let their names go on a list?

Frankly, I wish they would quit. What if they held a war, and nobody came?

[Curtland1015]

3. Pffffft... no one is going to quit. It's like when everyone around here is always saying...

...they're moving to Canada. It never happens.

[wolfgangmo]

51. Of course they don't move to Canada.

I happen to retain my Canadian citizenship so I might just move back.

However most people on this list would find it hard to emigrate to Canada as the immigration policy specifically looks for highly qualified people with specific qualifications. In short, if they don't need your skills . So unless you meet those criteria, then you are SOL, eh.

Having said that there are over 2 billion dollars in pending construction projects in northern alberta alone, not to mention a constant need for workers in the petroleum industry. So if you have the skills you could be making HUGE money up there.

Just sayin'. Besides if you love this country and her people, then you need to stay here and fight for her.

[Onlooker]

4. That's just nutty

It doesn't make sense from a left wing or right wing point of view.

[Ian David]

9. I'd bet that *if* this guy really IS in the Marines, what he said is a big no-no.

Whether it is true or not.

That is, if the guy isn't lying about being in the military in the first place.

[spelldmilk]

18. Marines do not quit.

[Ian David]

28. He said 400,000 military, not 400,000 Marines. But he did say *he* is in the Marines. n/t

[Onlooker]

55. He was just being an idiot

What would it accomplish even from a political view? If 400,000 people quit, it wouldn't help the right any. That's why I think he's simply a liar.

[uponit7771]

5. No one "quit" during the time of draft no one in the military is going to quit noow

[Cirque du So-What]

6. Perhaps the reason for a dearth of information

is that it's pure, unadulterated bullshit. If it's especially fresh, perhaps it hasn't had time to get debunked at Snopes. Consider forwarding it to Snopes yourself. Perhaps it's like when there's a power outage in your neighborhood; everyone assumes that someone else has already alerted the power company.

[mediaman007]

7. What are they going to do for a job? A lot of people who aren't in

the military can'f find work. Blackwater can't take all of them.

Personally, I think that your marine is FoS.

[Ian David]

14. I agree. I'm convinced he's full of shit. But the questions remain...

1) Did he come up with this lie himself?
2) Did someone else lie to him? And is that lie published and/or pre-debunked.
3) If the guy really IS in the military, isn't saying what he did a violation of the military code of justice whether it's true or not?

[mediaman007]

36. Most of this stuff is emailed constantly by right wingers.

My money is on

1) the material came from someone else
2) he is not in the military
3) he is a she

How could you know?

[BeatleBoot]

8. Exactly 400,000? Or is it more

like "around 400,000"




:rofl:

[opiate69]

10. Hell, if I had known you could QUIT the military, I'd have joined up.

[scheming daemons]

11. Show me the pledge.... otherwise... it's bullshit.

They said the same thing in 1992. Google that... you'll see.

[Ian David]

17. Really? I have to go looking for that. Thanks! n/t

[lady raven]

12. My brother is a Marine (response to Ian)

And he tells me that a real Marine ALWAYS capitalizes the "M". lol.

[Ian David]

16. It's a cellphone text group. He may have fat fingers? n/t

[lady raven]

25. Perhaps...

But it's still a good possibility that he's not even in the USMC. I've seen a LOT of Freeper types in my time who have lied about being in the Military. They think it makes their arguments more valid, I guess?

[Ian David]

29. Randi Rhodes gets callers like that ALL the time. n/t

[kestrel91316]

13. The Commander in Chief can order them to stay put, nobody's going anywhere,

we're at war. Stop Loss and all, you know.

Anybody who quits because Obama gets elected - we need to take down names and keep a list, and remember it when hiring and socializing and doing business. Actions have consequences.

[carnie_sf]

43. Actually they could be shot for desertion nt

[kestrel91316]

46. Well, now, there's an idea.......

Frankly, you wouldn't want them after that anyway. They'd just be saboteurs.

[LiberalFighter]

52. Could they be shot for impersonating someone in the military? Hmmmm

[Obamanaut]

15. Ignore it. Not worth your time. nt

[crossroads]

19. Sounds like the guy is pulling numbers out of his hat!

Pure BS!
CR

[parasim]

32. Hat? or ass?... huh. either way, he's an asshat.

hmmm, maybe that's where the phrase came from...

[crossroads]

37. LOL... Duh... I meant to say ass...

Wow... suprised to see that! Thanks!

[parasim]

49. Don't worry, works either way...

I'm old, so pulling something out of one's hat is a phrase I am familiar with. Just don't hear it as much these days...

[billyoc]

20. We could use a RIF of about 500,000.

[creeksneakers2]

21. Wingnuts said the same thing when Bill Clinton ran in 1992

And after Clinton won, wingnuts along with king wingnut kook former Congressman Bob Dornan tried to inspire a revolt in the military. They asked all the troops to go AWOL. Nobody paid attention to Dornan and the wingnuts.

[LiberalFighter]

53. Dornan should had been brought up on treason.

[Ian David]

61. Why wasn't Bob Dornan tried for Treason? n/t

[Ian David]

63. I'm googling that but not finding anything yet. But I'm pretty drunk. n/t

[A-Schwarzenegger]

70. "But I'm pretty drunk."

[Buzz Clik]

22. How does one formally pledge to quit the military?

It's bullshit.

[stevedeshazer]

23. Total number of US active duty personnel is 1.4 million.

<snip>

Military strength
The four U.S. armed services--the Army, the Air Force, the Navy, and the Marines--have a combined force of about 1.4 million active-duty personnel. The U.S. Army, with 480,000 active-duty soldiers and 200,000 reservists, is one of the largest in the world. A few other countries have larger armies, but none can bring superior armaments or technology to a conflict limited to conventional, nonnuclear weapons. No other country can match the United States in naval power, and in air warfare only Russia has fighter aircraft that can equal those of the United States.

source: http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/guides/?article=usmilitarymain

Common sense says that 400k/1.4m (what's that, like 30% of all active duty?) are not going to suddenly resign.

This so-called Marine, if he is one, is full of shit.

I suspect it's more likely he's a member of the 101st Fighting Keyboarders Brigade.

[Every Man A King]

24. My army buddy said 500k will quit

If McSame wins. Please Refute.

[Ian David]

60. They can quit. In front of a firing squad. n/t

[bluemarkers]

26. can't quit

and with the current stop loss - can't get out even when service time is up.

[1corona4u]

27. Interesting user name...zkaryah

[NYC_SKP]

38. zkaryah---Jumpin' Jehoshaphat?

(I know this much, dude doesn't date much)...

"Or Zkaryahuw {zek-ar-yaw'-hoo}; from zakar and Yahh; Jah has remembered; Zecarjah, the name of twenty-nine Israelites -- Zachariah, Zechariah."

or

Zkaryah {zek-ar-yaw'} or Zkaryahuw {zek-ar-yaw'-hoo}
Hebrew: personal noun masculine

Possible Definitions:
Zechariah = "Jehovah remembers"
1) 11th in order of the minor prophets; a priest, son of Berechiah and grandson of Iddo, who, along with Haggai, directed the rebuilding of the temple in the days of Zerubbabel
2) king of Israel, son of Jeroboam II
3) son of Meshelemiah of Shelemiah, a Korhite, and keeper of the north gate of the tabernacle of the congregation
4) one of the sons of Jehiel
5) a Levite of the second order in the temple band in the time of David
6) one of the princes of Judah in the reign of Jehoshaphat
7) son of the high priest Jehoiada, in the reign of Joash king of Judah, who was stoned in the court of the temple
8) a Kohathite Levite in the reign of Josiah
9) the leader of the sons of Pharosh who returned with Ezra
10) son of Bebai
11) one of the chiefs of the people whom Ezra summoned in council at the river Ahava; stood at Ezra's left hand when Ezra expounded the law to the people
12) one of the family of Elam who had married a foreign wife after the captivity
13) ancestor of Athaiah or Uthai
14) a Shilonite, descendant of Perez
15) a priest, son of Pashur
16) the representative of the priestly family of Iddo in the days of Joiakim the son of Jeshua; possibly the same as 1 above
17) one of the priests, son of Jonathan, who blew with the trumpets at the dedication of the city wall by Ezra and Nehemiah
18) a chief of the Reubenites at the time of the captivity by Tiglath-pileser
19) one of the priests who accompanied the ark from the house of Obed-edom
20) son of Isshiah of Jesiah, a Kohathite Levite descended from Uzziel
21) 4th son of Hosah, of the children of Merari
22) a Manassite
23) father of Jahaziel
24) one of the sons of Jehoshaphat
25) a prophet in the reign of Uzziah, who appears to have acted as the king's counsellor, but of whom nothing is known
26) father of Abijah or Abi, Hezekiah's mother
27) one of the family of Asaph in the reign of Hezekiah
28) one of the rulers of the temple in the reign of Josiah
29) son of Jeberechiah who was taken by the prophet Isaiah as one of the 'faithful witnesses to record' when he wrote concerning Maher-shalal-hash-baz

Zkaryah {zek-ar-yaw'} or Zkaryahuw {zek-ar-yaw'-hoo}

Hebrew: personal noun masculine"

:shrug:

[Ian David]

40. Here's his user profile

Name:
age: 48
state/province: IL
member since: Oct 22, 2008
sex: male


about me: n/a

my interests: n/a

personal url: n/a




zkaryah's groups:
VoteConstitutionValues
Soul Wounds
News 2 Laugh
Hip_Hop_Poets
News Chat
Barack_HUSSEIN_Obama

SweetNSour
Blak Poets Society
USA Terror Alert
america news
The_enchated_forest
Love poets
Dog Ear
LyricallySpeaking
Calling All Writers 2003
newsheadline
ElectionTips

zkaryah's channels:
Upoc Rookies
Upoc Entertainment Guide

http://www.upoc.com/profile.jsp?handle=zkaryah

[NYC_SKP]

45. I was perusing the other groups at upoc.com, and the site ownership:

Interesting to see some of the interest groups, not surprising as the home company is in NYC on broadway near NYU.
I don't see any themes here, could be just crazyness, students playing superspy war games?
Or, could it be more, would cell phones be a great way to organize a mass movement?

Interesting topic to follow....don't really think any number of troops will go AWOL over Obama, but it's interesting.

:shrug:

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main/Upoc.com

Upoc, Guy Fyers
536 Broadway, 3rd Floor
New York, NY
10012
US

Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
sysops upocnetworks.com

Employees: 100 - 250
Ownership: Privately Held
Revenue: $1 - 10M
Ticker: (No Data)

[Ian David]

56. There was an article in Wired somewhere about far-right Chasidic Jews using Upoc...

... in an organized effort to keep in touch with their religious communities.

And my anecdotal experience with Upoc is that the major users are (in order of prevalence):

1) Far-right Chasidic Jews
2) Bisexual Wicans
3) African-Americans cruising for sex
4) Non-Afrincan-Americans cruising for sex, most often with truckers.
5) Prostitutes from Texas creating their own message groups to attract and maintain ties with their "Johns"
6) Everyone else

[NYC_SKP]

62. Sounds like a potentially very effective way to network...

Some of the threads had to do with emergency responses, accidents, etc., very clever use of cell phones and texting.

Any developments on the 400.000 marines story?

[Ian David]

65. No. His mommy must have sent him to bed. And yeah, it's pretty effective networking.

I used it during Katrina.

Which is when I learned that I am wrong precisely 1 time out of 12.


During Katrina, I was capturing data from CNN and posting it on DU, while simultaneously posting information from DU onto the Katrina and Disaster groups on Upoc.

In the midst of all that, I accidentally typed that the roof on the stadium was reported to have blown 1/2 off... when it was in fact being reported on CNN to have blown 1/12 off.

And someone... I don't remember who... laid into me BIG TIME for being sloppy, irresponsible, contributing to un-needed panic, etc.

And as calmer minds talked me and others down, we settled into realizing that I am wrong 1/12th of the time.

[1corona4u]

42. LOL...that's why I said it ws interesting...

more like bizzare....

[last1standing]

30. This is just TOO easy to swat away.

First, just as you don't "get a job" in the military, you don't just quit when you feel like it. That's called going AWOL and is a serious offense. I'll bet any sum you like that 400,000 ENLISTED soldiers have not claimed that they will commit such a serious crime if Obama is elected.

Second, in any discussion of this nature it is the claimants job to prove his accusations, not yours to refute them. The only way to PROVE someone has not said something is to read or hear every single thing that person has ever said. It's an impossibility. Let this idiot prove it to you or tell him he's an inbred mouth-breather and be done with.

Third, yes, this could be an act of sedition if this person is in the military. He plainly states that 400,000 troops have taken an oath to leave the military then in the next response states that he is one of them ("...we are done supporting you..."). Unless I'm mistaken, it's illegal for a soldier to take an oath that would subvert the government he/she is sworn to protect. Send this on to the MPs or FBI and let them have fun with it.

And forth, stop talking to this moran. He will do nothing but suck away energy and intelligence from you.

[Clio the Leo]

31. I am just gonna start making random crap up about McCain.....

.... I mean because that's all these people do.

How about ......... "You remember that time with Bush Sr. upchucked and passed out while visting Japan? Yep, McCain tried to poision him."

or

"That whole Three Mile Island thing? That was all John McCain's fault."

or

"Remember that really sucky Bills field goal kicker they had a few years back, lost them two Super Bowls? It was John McCain."

"Razors in the apples, ruining Halloween? You're probably thinking that was John McCain, close, it was Sarah Palin."

"If Sarah Palin is elected VP, we will all be required to shoot our pets."

Seriously? That's all these folks are doing. And then they waste precious bandwidth shooting it all over cybserspace.

[fizzgig]

68. that's the reaction i had, too

they're just making shit from whole cloth

[JimWis]

33. Bunch of BS. You don't just quit the military.

[Clovis Sangrail]

34. 29% of the military is going to 'quit'?

:rofl:

1) YOU CAN'T JUST LEAVE THE MILITARY

once you take that oath you go where they tell you and do what they say for the duration.
Just 'leaving' is known as desertion. You can do time for it and you'll carry bad paper for the rest of your life.
The vast majority of military personnel would never even consider it.

2) even if you *could just leave, 400,000 would be 29% of all active military.

that would mean more than 1 in 4 military personnel dislike Obama so much they'd be willing to toss their military careers.
serious bullshit

[baldguy]

35. Encouraging military personnel to go AWOL?

And advocating the murder of federal employees for doing their duty?

Why does he hate America?

[Ian David]

39. I just replied to him... here is what I said...

Read from the LAST message and go UP toward the top one:



Oct 26 9:05PM
Fr: IANDB1 To: zkaryah
You should be ashamed. You should be very ashamed.


Oct 26 9:05PM
Fr: IANDB1 To: zkaryah
How DARE you accuse our troops of plotting mutiny & Treason after all they have suffered in the hands of your pResident


Oct 26 9:04PM
Fr: IANDB1 To: zkaryah
And no, if not 4politics, you & I would *NOT* be friends. I don't associate with lying cowards who disparage our troops.


Oct 26 9:03PM
Fr: IANDB1 To: zkaryah
I would hate to serve in the unit with someone who so cavalierly accuses me of conspiring to commit Mutiny.


Oct 26 9:03PM
Fr: IANDB1 To: zkaryah
... to commit a capitol offense. Hope for your sake you ARE lying about being a Marine.


Oct 26 9:02PM
Fr: IANDB1 To: zkaryah
Right now, I'm trying to figure out if I need to report you to the military for accusing fellow troops of conspiring...


Oct 26 9:02PM
Fr: IANDB1 To: zkaryah
Including ungrateful, unpatriotic, lying wannabees like you.


Oct 26 9:02PM
Fr: IANDB1 To: zkaryah
... and disparages and trivializes the service of our brave men and women who are fighting and dying for our country.


Oct 26 9:01PM
Fr: IANDB1 To: zkaryah
Saying 400,000 troops are going to mutiny threatens unit cohesion and gives aid and comfort to our enemies...


Oct 26 9:01PM
Fr: IANDB1 To: zkaryah
And if you actually ARE in the military, you are violating USMC by disparaging &questioning the loyalty of fellow troops


Oct 26 9:00PM
Fr: IANDB1 To: zkaryah
Secondly, you are not a Marine. Marines never quit, and they ALWAYS capitalize the "M" in Marine.


Oct 26 8:59PM
Fr: IANDB1 To: zkaryah
Someone is just repeating the same Urban Legend, except this time it's supposedly over Obama.


Oct 26 8:59PM
Fr: IANDB1 To: zkaryah
In 1992, there was an Urban Legend that said 400,000 members of the U.S. military would quit if he were elected...

[frickaline]

41. On the plus side, this would sure make Frank's 25% decrease easy!

but I can't imagine this is real.

[kenny blankenship]

44. Tell this Tim McVeigh wannabee character "good luck" with his court martial !

(or rather his civilian court trial since he is almost certainly not actively serving in the military.) That's assuming he's not lying about what he says he knows.

If he is lying, he should be more careful what he posts from his Mom's computer in the future. Because if the authorities come to interview her/him, he's gonna be grounded for at least a month.

[NYC_SKP]

47. I Googled "upoc" and "zkaryah" and only got one result....interesting!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=upoc+zkaryah&btnG=Google+Search

I totally believe you IanDB1, just weird that so far I'm not finding anything (just like you said...)

who the fuck are these weird people?

going to try usaterror and zkaryah now..

:hi:

[casus belli]

48. This guy is a Marine like I'm the queen of England...

PS, even discussing purposefully disobeying your chain of command is grounds for punishment under the UCMJ. This isn't happening, I assure you, and I highly doubt its being discussed.

[NYC_SKP]

50. Now I Googled "upoc" and "usaterror" and got these results:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=upoc+usaterror&btnG=Search

#
Upoc Mobile Group: USA Terror Alert
mms to: [e-mail], who can send msgs: All who can invite: All SMS reply goes to sender founder: foolmaker since: Oct 17, 2001 ...
www.upoc.com/group.jsp?group=usaterror - 42k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
#
Upoc Mobile Group: ProphecyWatch
mms to: [e-mail], who can send msgs: All ... To: usaterror WHEN THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF LIES 2 GO 2 WAR, HE MUST BE IMPEACHED. ...

#
Upoc | USA Terror Alert
Upoc Groups. Category: Current Events. edit photo. Group name: USA Terror Alert quit msg delivery - on | off. Handle : usaterror. # of members : 288 ...
upoc-inc.com/group.htm?handle=usaterror - 24k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this

#
Upoc Mobile Group: Scriptural Prophecies of Earths History
mms to: [e-mail], who can send msgs: All who can invite: All ... To:usaterror McCain proves himself even more crazy than Bush, > ...

#
Upoc Mobile Group: Scriptural Prophecies of Earths History
mms to: [e-mail], who can send msgs: All who can invite: All ... To:usaterror As Russia and Georgia wage war, Bush remains obviously ...
m.upoc.com/group.jsp?group=enddays&mode=group&_pageLinkIdx=3 - 88k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this

#
Upoc | USA Terror Alert

hmmmmm, end days, bible prophecy, fringe?...?

[Ian David]

57. I've been posting regularly to the group for years with a very liberal slant.

Because, as you know, reality has a well-known liberal bias.

Mostly posting links back to DU.

And some day, I may have information that could save the life of someone on that group, since I get stuff here on DU faster than most people would get it anywhere.

Hopefully, everyone on that group who hates Liberals and my "liberal bias" will already have me on ignore and miss that information that COULD have saved their life.


Here are some of my most recent posts to the group:



Oct 26 3:28PM
Fr: IANDB1
Iranian President Imadinnerjacket says rumors that he is ill are untrue.

Oct 26 3:23PM
Fr: IANDB1
US has launched helicopter-borne commando attack within Syrian borders. Thank you, pResident Blowmonkey!

Oct 26 3:15PM
Fr: IANDB1
Boston Globe: Witnesses say U.S. helicopters attack Syrian villiage along Iraq border. Happy October Surprise!

Oct 26 11:30AM
Fr: IANDB1
Ex-Bush Official Nick Burns Says McCain is Wrong on Negotiating With Iran & Other Adversaries. http://tinyurl.com/5fnbh6

Oct 25 3:16PM
Fr: IANDB1
Anti-American secessionist Sarah Palin says abortion clinic bombers are not terrorists.

Oct 25 9:55AM
Fr: IANDB1
Domestic Terrorist Dana McArtor arrested for threatening Ohio Secretary of State. http://tinyurl.com/5m2ve3

Oct 25 8:37AM
Fr: IANDB1
Bush says he will "bypass" law that forbids political interference with Homeland Security. http://tinyurl.com/6a43ca

Oct 25 8:02AM
Fr: IANDB1
Man confesses2 politically motivated Domestic Terrorism against Obama volunteer Nancy Takehara http://tinyurl.com/5wcx6m

Oct 24 8:56PM
Fr: IANDB1
Bush's Former CIA Director George Tenet and entire senior staff backing Obama. http://tinyurl.com/6qq676

Oct 24 8:42PM
Fr: IANDB1
Missouri Domestic Terrorists kick, stomp and steal Obama signs, caught on video. http://tinyurl.com/6fox5r

Oct 24 8:29PM
Fr: IANDB1
Bush Admin plans diplomatic office in Iran, supports Obama's comments. http://tinyurl.com/57mptl

Oct 24 4:07PM
Fr: IANDB1
Private Investigator hired to terrorize voters in New Mexico may have violated law. http://tinyurl.com/6gnk48

Oct 24 1:30PM
Fr: IANDB1
BREAKING: 'B-GIRL' ASHLEY TODD CONFESSES TO FAKING ATTACK! COPS FILING CHARGES AGAINST HER! http://tinyurl.com/675rgg

Oct 24 11:57AM
Fr: IANDB1
Winning Hearts & Minds: 'US missiles' hit Pakistan school (drone kills 7 students) BBC http://tinyurl.com/5l5n6h

Oct 24 11:52AM
Fr: IANDB1
McCain surrogate tells University students to prepare for war with Iran in next four years. http://tinyurl.com/58gmag


Oct 24 11:50AM
Fr: IANDB1
Former generals & U.S. Justice Department officials filed briefs urging U.S. Supreme court to review Bush GITMO policy.

Oct 24 11:44AM
Fr: IANDB1
Cops: 'Inconsistencies' In Story Of Politically Motivated Attack (Ashley Todd) likely lying. http://tinyurl.com/6lsurt

Oct 24 11:42AM
Fr: IANDB1
McCain's Private Visit (palling around) With Chilean Dictator Pinochet Revealed For 1st Time. http://tinyurl.com/5cmje5

Oct 22 9:57PM
Fr: IANDB1
Pentagon 2spend $50,000 for second portrait of Donald Rumsfeld. Now, THAT will make us safer! http://tinyurl.com/66sn86

Oct 22 5:12PM
Fr: IANDB1
Vandals defaced homes of American AND Republican congress-critters in Minnesota last night. http://tinyurl.com/6fsefv

Oct 22 4:49PM
Fr: IANDB1
Tape recordings released of Domestic Terrorists making death threats. http://tinyurl.com/6oyzl7

Oct 22 4:06PM
Fr: IANDB1
Wash Post: Al-Qaeda endorses Domestic Terrorist John McCain & Secessionist Sarah Palin. http://tinyurl.com/55dzu6

Oct 21 6:56PM
Fr: IANDB1
Deployment of military and mercenaries within U.S. continues to raise concerns. http://tinyurl.com/5fmnyb

Oct 21 1:05PM
Fr: IANDB1
Retired Generals of Israeli Defense Forces &former high-ranking Mossad officials endorse Obama http://tinyurl.com/6qaee7

Oct 21 12:33PM
Fr: IANDB1
US drops charges against 5 Gitmo prisoners after prosecutor blew whistle on unfair trial. http://tinyurl.com/6e5h7s

Oct 21 12:27PM
Fr: IANDB1
Police seek motive in attack on anchor woman Anne Pressly who had small role in movie "W." http://tinyurl.com/5lfwjh

Oct 21 12:23PM
Fr: IANDB1
Domestic Terrorists deface Obama billboard outside labor union building in Biglerville, PA. http://tinyurl.com/6og2sy

Oct 21 9:52AM
Fr: IANDB1
State Highway Patrol investigating Domestic Terrorism against OH Secretary of State. http://tinyurl.com/5r7x5y

Oct 21 8:10AM
Fr: IANDB1
Ohio Secretary of State's office besieged by multifaceted, multiple Domestic Terror assaults. http://tinyurl.com/5scqsa

Oct 20 9:26PM
Fr: IANDB1
Anchorwoman who had small part in movie "W" attacked in her Ark. home by Domestic Terrorists. http://tinyurl.com/58plus

Oct 20 9:23PM
Fr: IANDB1
Domestic Terrorists murder bear cub, drape it with Obama signs, dump it @Western Carolina Univ http://tinyurl.com/5ephf9

Oct 20 9:14PM
Fr: IANDB1
Associated Press finally notices McCain linked to international terror and Nazi group. http://tinyurl.com/5sqvn4

Oct 20 1:46PM
Fr: IANDB1
I've seen stranger things on The Science Channel... but aren't there easier ways than pigeons with radiation badges?

Oct 20 1:44PM
Fr: IANDB1
Not sure if this is credible: Iran accuses U.S. of using pigeons to spy on nuke facilities. http://tinyurl.com/5cjer8

Oct 20 1:39PM
Fr: IANDB1
Domestic Terrorists slash tires on 30 cars at Obama rally. http://tinyurl.com/648ofs

Oct 20 1:34PM
Fr: IANDB1
Domestic Terrorists replace Virginia minister's Obama sign with Confederate Treason-Flag. http://tinyurl.com/5lo9tt

Oct 20 9:35AM
Fr: IANDB1
Homemade explosive devices found on Swampscott, Mass. beach. http://tinyurl.com/5vkn9t

Oct 19 6:51PM
Fr: IANDB1
Israeli leadership considers thwarting GOP plan4 Apocalypse by accepting Saudi plan for peace with all Arab countries.

Oct 19 6:50PM
Fr: IANDB1
Taliban insurgents pull 50 passengers off bus and behead 30 accused of being soldiers traveling in civilian clothes.

Oct 19 2:08PM
Fr: IANDB1
Anti-Obama Anti-Semite Domestic Terrorist lynches President Obama in efffigy with Star of David on his head.

Oct 19 10:04AM
Fr: IANDB1
George W. Bush's former Secretary of State General Colin Powell has endorsed Barack Obama. http://tinyurl.com/5p93du

Oct 17 9:32PM
Fr: IANDB1
Computers stolen from Boston ACORN office by Domestic Terrorists.

Oct 17 7:53PM
Fr: IANDB1
Batshit-Crazy congresswoman Michelle Bachman urges a return to McCarthyism on Hardball with Tweety.

Oct 17 5:56PM
Fr: IANDB1
Why did Ronald Reagan's ambassasor Annenberg put a domestic terrorust on a non-proffit board?

Oct 16 7:45PM
Fr: IANDB1
Top GOP Fund-Raiser Harry Sargeant III Tied to Iraq Fuel Contract. Waxman to investigate. http://tinyurl.com/4e3l65

[NYC_SKP]

58. That's fascinating, bookmarking the thread for later reference.

Thanks, IanDB1! :toast:

[Ian David]

59. You're welcome. It's what I do.

And yeah, it brings out the crazies.

I mostly just call them Nazis and Nazi collaborators, urge them to commit suicide, and then put them on ignore.

[BlooInBloo]

54. (facepalm)

[HughMoran]

64. The same idiotic inane BULLSHIT was said when CLINTON was elected

Even the smallest about of common sense would tell you that this is utter fucking bullshit that doesn't even deserve 5 minutes of consideration. :(

[Ian David]

66. Well, I'm still considering whether there's an authority that needs to get on that guy's ass or not.

[HughMoran]

67. They should be executed for treason IMO

There is no more treasonous action than to undercut the military of our country (not my opinion).

[Ian David]

69. I would say TRIED for Treason, not executed. The sentence isn't up to us. n/t

[ddeclue]

71. That's EASY:

This guy is full of crap - tell him to put up or shut up..

Pledged WHERE?

Are they on record somewhere saying they will desert?

If so this list needs to be submitted to the CID and Judge Advocate General's office for investigation - this would be desertion, mutiny, incitement to mutiny...have I missed anything here? The guy making this claim is obstructing justice if he knows the names but is withholding them.

If NOT then he's a bullshitter not to be believed.

Doug D.

Tell him to put up or shut up.

[Ian David]

72. Since I doubt he's actually in the military, I think it's best to report it to Fight the Smears.

I don't think it's worth reporting to someone in the military, but if anyone else feels otherwise, you can do so with my blessing.


Here's a shortcut back to this thread:

http://tinyurl.com/zkaryah

[Ian David]

73. Awwww... the Zkaryah guy put me on ignore and called me a pussy!

Oct 27 5:04PM
Fr: IANDB1 To: zkaryah
You're going to jail


Oct 27 5:04PM
Fr: zkaryah To: IANDB1
Awww poor pussy ur blocked fuckhead
Oct 27 5:03PM


Fr: IANDB1 To: MCLamb
West Virginia gives VP of voting machine company an award while his machines are "failing." http://tinyurl.com/5qdw4t


Oct 27 5:02PM
Fr: IANDB1 To: zkaryah
loser


Oct 27 5:02PM
Fr: zkaryah To: IANDB1
.quit

Oct 27 12:25PM
Fr: IANDB1 To: zkaryah
Bullshit story about 400,000 troops pledging to mutiny if Obama is elected has been debunked. http://tinyurl.com/zkaryah