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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 11:10 AM
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Early voting: doesn't it make it harder for them to steal it??
:shrug: Not that we shouldn't be expecting that, but the incredible early turnout makes me feel more optimistic.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/29/early-voting-information_n_138773.html

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Among those who said they have already voted at an early voting location or sent in an absentee ballot, Barack Obama picked up 60 percent of the vote in the new poll to John McCain's 39 percent.


Six more days, people! Can't wait til this is all over.... :toast:
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 11:14 AM
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1. My theory goes like this....
...The get the numbers from the early vote to figure how many votes will need to be stolen on the final day.

This time they will see that if they steal THAT many votes, they will be caught. They got away with it in 2004, but not now. The margins are too great.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 11:16 AM
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2. It makes almost no difference either way
...from a technology POV. Cast warly or on-time, they get tabulated together on Election Night.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 12:05 PM
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6. Not so
If the votes are in anyway electronically tabulated the votes can be counted at anytime via wireless apps.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:48 PM
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7. SFAIK, tabulation occurs on Election Night
I'd be interested in hearing about any parts of the country where it is bothelegal and standard operating procedure to count them early.

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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 02:49 PM
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8. Well
The machines count the votes as they are cast... a running tally, if you will. It's one thing that makes the machines so bad.

Case in point, an county insider in 2004 told me that Kerry won the early vote by 200+ just hours after the early vote ended, so that means the election office already had those totals in hand days before the final. Since wireless is built into at least some of the machines, and you are an insider, the numbers can flow freely. Bad, yes.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:00 PM
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9. Interesting
When did early voting end? And what state/county?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:11 PM
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10. It was 2004
And early voting ended 3 or 4 days before the final. State and county doesn't matter, the machines are nearly everywhere.

Even the levers had a running tally that a poll watcher could see.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:37 AM
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11. Thanks!
I will do some research on this.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 11:17 AM
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3. yes, because some problems can be worked out
the main way they steal it is by throwing obstacles in the way of people trying to vote. If you vote early, if you have a problem you can go back the next day or whatever.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 12:01 PM
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4. I think so, but these people are so slimy
I wouldn't count on it.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 12:03 PM
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5. You would think so, but never "misunderestimate" the GOP's power to steal elections.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:40 AM
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12. the best thing about early voting..
is easing the flow on election day. I don't think the stealing part is as easy as in past elections because so many of us now use paper in some way. Even though very few states actually count the paper to make sure the tabulation is accurate, there is at least the capability of doing so. I think long lines, purges, and challenges are the method this year, and early voting diminishes those.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:44 AM
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13. 50-state pressure, leads in early voting... and a total GOP meltdown = harder to steal
Edited on Thu Oct-30-08 09:45 AM by Essene
I think that's why more moderate GOP Governors like Crist are sending a crystal clear message: let the people decide.

Some of them attacked the robocalls. Want to maintain some dignity.

I dont see many Republican state-based folks risking EVERYTHING for Mccain.



There will be jerks at the local level trying to do caging and stuff, but i dont expect to see wild attempts to steal the election.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:58 AM
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14. I think so because their voter suppression tactics
have time to go through the courts and they can't just screw up election day. If you look at the court challenges, very few, if any, have turned out in their favor. Also, if people have problems, they have time to try to get them straightened out. The GOP counts on election day chaos to work their schemes.
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