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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 08:43 PM
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Kerry will Destroy Bush in the Presidential Debates. LET'S DEMAND THEM!
Pressue the media. Write to the networks. Hell, write to the campaigns! Why not even send letters to the Bush campaign posing as an undecided voter who is leaning towards Kerry, but wants to hear how Bush would stand up to Kerry's charges? A hundred thousand of these coming from key swing states like Florida and Ohio ought to really make Karl Rove bite his nails down to their bloody roots!
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 08:45 PM
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1. Please e-mail ABC and complain about their pro-Bush bias
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 08:48 PM
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2. Of course we should demand ALL the debates agreed upon.
However, don't underestimate Bush when it comes to debates, particularly with those in the media telling everyone that his dismal performance is a triumph.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 08:49 PM
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3. Stop raising the media's expectations for Kerry, this is how Bush won 2K.
All they are doing is trying to lower the expectations of Bush
for the debates. They are attempting to lower the bar. They did the same thing in 2000, and all the media said Bush won. All Kerry needs to do is say, "Stop playing games to lower the debate expectations George, we all know you are a great debater." Ann Richards and Al Gore would agree."



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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 08:55 PM
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4. Yesss! Thanks for saying this. Rove operates on reverse psychology
Edited on Tue Sep-07-04 08:58 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
Nothing is EVER as it appears with this group. Whatever they present, you can bet they're going for the opposite reaction. So,everyone carries on about how GWB is afraid of debating Kerry, and then the B* campaign will appear to cave to pressure...the press will gleefully report that Kerry is the obvious front runner in expected debate performance...then GWB is somewhat coherent and always "on message", and Voila, he wins!! (according to the media)
Don't play the game...promote GWB the brilliant debater and strategist...
set the bar as high as it should be for a sitting POTUS. MKJ

:think:

no edit
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 08:56 PM
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5. Bingo!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 08:58 PM
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6. Don't say that...
That's playing right into their hands. Lower expectations for Kerry and raise them for Bush. Bush has never lost a debate, Remember he beat Gore 3 times??
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 09:12 PM
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12. Not only did he beat Gore 3 times
Bush also trounced Ann Richards in the Texas governorship debates.
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 09:01 PM
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7. We need to be careful - I suspect Bush is just playing scared to lower
expectations.

We made a huge mistake in 2000 underestimating him. We lowered expectations so low that he won the debate just by showing up and not peeing on himself.

I believe he's trying to act scared to lull us into a smugness about Kerry's debating superiority. We need to be very careful not to go there.
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abrock Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 09:02 PM
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8. The shit of this is, Bush is not a good debater.
He is good at talking, but he isn't good at thinking for himself. In a TRUE debate, where he had to think for himself on tough issues and make statements HE came up with, he'd be fucking dead meat.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 09:03 PM
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9. Bush* has never lost a debate in his life
Not bad for a piker, eh?
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 09:15 PM
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14. You are right. The big difference between his other debates and now
is that NOW he is the president. Surely, the bar should be raised WAAY up for that exalted position. I was shocked that the press didn't point out his inability to speak extemporaneously, and actually said he did "well" in his debates with Gore.

I know, you know and most of us here know he can't debate his way out of a paper sack. How can we get the rest of this country's citizens to see this? MKJ
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 09:18 PM
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15. He's never lost a debate, though.
He beat Gore solidly...
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 09:05 PM
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10. Not if the media has anything to say about it. As long as bush
doesn't piss on himself, they will say he was masterful. A real man.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 09:10 PM
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11. I thought Gore creamed bush in the 2000 debates
but the pundits sure didn't think so. All bush did through all of the debates was to spew out meaningless crap. He didn't say anything concrete the whole time. But he still "won"
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 09:14 PM
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13. I think they need to debate.
But by raising expectations so high the last time, the media were able to slam Gore when he didn't "Destroy Bush.*" So let's refrain from deifying John Kerry at this point, and instead say, "Let's demand debates because it's vital to our democracy and our national discourse."


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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 09:32 PM
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16. Be careful what you wish for
In 2000, I remember thinking that Gore would dust the floor with Bush in the debates. But look what the media DID to Gore. He knew more, expressed himself better ... but NOT according to the pundit class. No, they said he sighed and lied, that Bush held his own and ergo he was the winner.

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