Anyone got a copy of the Loyalty Oath?

[vetwife]

''Whose vice president is he?" said 72-year-old retiree John Wade of Albuquerque, who was asked to sign the form when he picked up his tickets. ''I just wanted to hear what my vice president had to say, and they make me sign a loyalty oath."

Nick Lucy, a 64-year-old veteran and Democrat, said he was turned away from a May 7 rally in Dubuque, Iowa, at which President Bush spoke even though he had a ticket given to him by a local Republican leader. Lucy, who was not asked to sign a form, said he has seen every president since Ronald Reagan, but he was denied access because he is not a registered Republican. He is a Democrat and a past commander of the American Legion in Dubuque who plays taps at veterans' funerals.


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This is pretty damming considering Kerry could use Bush's speech saying he wanted to be everyone's president. My My Everyone who agrees with him. Good ad idea. Just wondering. , anyone got a copy of the oath? I have been looking for it every since I heard about it several weeks ago. what will happen if you don't honor it..Get sued ? Better yet, would this not be duress? Cops escorting you out by refusing to sign?

[vetwife]

1. Kick

[napkinz]

2. posted in another thread ...

[vetwife]

4. I'd take my chances ..I would say I was under duress

[billkurtmeyer]

6. Notice how big the X - sign here is - got to lead the illiterate sheep

[bryant69]

7. I'm not sure having a big x automatically means that

No need to gild the lily so to speak, the form is bad enough already.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Dookus]

9. this doesn't seem to be the "oath"

in question. This looks like Florida's oath used to ensure that a candidate for public office is actually a member of the party he or she runs under.

[JohnnyRingo]

3. I hereby swear to do all I can to build a stronger America.

...by sending GWB back to Texas.

[vetwife]

5. Nazi Oath...HmmmmIs this where they got their idea?

Each member of the German armed forces (Wehrmacht) swore an oath of personal allegiance to Adolf Hitler -- and not to the constitution. This oath went into effect on 2 August 1934, the day that Reich President Paul von Hindenberg died, and Hitler immediately consolidated the offices of president and chancellor.

As Louis L. Snyder succinctly states in his Encyclopedia of the Third Reich, "The rule of traditional law was now finished (156)." (For more information, please refer to the Works Cited at the end of this document.) The text of this oath, in German and in English, is as follows:


Die Vereidigung der Wehrmacht auf Adolf Hitler, 2.8.1934


"Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid, daß ich dem Führer des Deutschen Reiches und Volkes Adolf Hitler, dem Oberbefehlshaber der Wehrmacht, unbedingten Gehorsam leisten und als tapferer Soldat bereit sein will, jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen."


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The Wehrmacht Oath of Loyalty to Adolf Hitler, 2 August 1934


"I swear by God this sacred oath that I shall render unconditional obedience to Adolf Hitler, the Führer of the German Reich, supreme commander of the armed forces, and that I shall at all times be prepared, as a brave soldier, to give my life for this oath."

[Democrat 4 Ever]

10. Is this for real?

I have heard of the required oath to get in to see Bush but is this statement they really have to sign? And they actually find Americans who will sign it? I have more problems with the lemmings that would sign something like this then the ones who told them they had to for admittance. (I'm just surprised the GOPs didn't think to charge the people $100.00 for the form to sign!) I saw the form and thought, this HAS got to be a joke. It just shows how far right Bush and his supporters have gone if they can't see anything wrong with this.

And how would they know how people are registered? Do they have copies of the voter registrations to check before allowing tickets or entrance or they just depending on people to tell the truth? That's not very GOP "ie". Trusting people - I mean.

[KharmaTrain]

8. Kick...Let's Get These Forms Out...

I run into people who think this loyalty oath thing is a joke. This is serious stuff.

It's understandable to keep crowds under control and limit the access to public officials for their own safety, but this is far from that.

This should be a major issue and insult; considering WE are paying for a lot of these junkets (all the Secret Service & other govt. employees who tag along on these RNC road trips) and the POSUS (as opposed to POTUS) is restricting law-abiding citizens from seeing him speak based purely on one's political affiliation.

I'd love to see someone whose turned away press a discrimination case.

[vetwife]

11. ITs no joke and I guess every state he goes to has one they

have people sign......

[Catfight]

12. John Kerry is loyal to America, Bush is loyal to only his party! n/t

[Dulcinea]

19. No...Kerry's loyalty is to America, Boy George's is to himself.

And you better be just as loyal to him, to his way of thinking.

[CornField]

13. Also at that Davenport * Rally

http://www.blogforiowa.com/blog/_archives/2004/8/5/118906.html

I am a registered Democrat and voting for John Kerry but I thought it would be educational for my daughters and me to go see Bush speak at the Davenport, Iowa, riverfront today (08/04/04). I wanted them to see that in America the was suppose to be working for all Americans and even if I didn't agree with policies, that at least I could still show my children how elections and politics work. I waited in line, picked up my Bush tickets for me and my kids and rode down to the speech with some of my Republican friends and children, waited in line some more to enter the park to hear . When I got up to the front of the line and was going through, I was grabbed by the security, pushed to the side (in front of my children and Republican friends) and my ticket was ripped and they said, "We don't like your pin, so get out of here". I was wearing a small pin that said "John Kerry 2004". The worst part is that the security team did this in front of my children; I want my daughters to understandthat in America we have the right to free speech and that we have the first amendment, but that was blatantly violated. I wasn't making a scene; I didn't even say anything, just a little pin. My daughters don't understand why this happened. They thought in America people could express themselves without repression. What is the problem with this picture? I feel that someone owes me, my friends and daughters an apology and that someone needs to reforce my rights as an American. I might be just an average guy, butI am still an American citizen.

Glen Wooldridge
Davenport, IA

[Bozita]

14. The Albuquerque loyalty oath was posted here at DU

It was a scanned image.

It should be in the archive.

[Bozita]

15. I found it -- scanned image

Note the masterful use of the English language.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=660018

[demokatgurrl]

16. Why can't we get groups of Democrats

to sign the oath and crash Bush rallies and then chant for Kerry or otherwise annoy Dubya when we get in there? I know we would be escorted out but it would eventually get on the news. I don't mind signing the oath and "flip-flopping" once I get inside the rally.
What are they going to do, accompany me into the voting booth???

[vetwife]

17. Again i ask..what will they doe sue you if you change your mind?

[vetwife]

18. Appears to me. not looking to change minds or swing voters !

Heil to the Bush !

[leftchick]

20. JK mentioned the loyalty oath in his visit to NC yesterday.....

It was excellent and I hope he talks about it at every campaign stop. At the begining of his speech he noted that no one there was required to take a loyalty pledge he said everyone was welcome. Later when the Q&A started he prefaced by saying none of the questions were pre-screened, he would answer whatever anyone asked! It was great!

He also looks MUCH better in person. He is very handsome, the tv does not do him justice. :)