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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 02:37 PM
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I call on Kucinich to fire his campaign manager and re-focus his campaign
First, fire that "transformation kinesthesiologist" that has no prior campaign experience. He has done his job poorly, and the evidence of that is plain to see.

Then hold a press conference introducing his new campaign manager (one with some experience). That alone should get him some media attention.

The press conference will develop the new hard-edged Kucinich campaign focus. He should refocus his campaign on economic populism and universal healthcare. Repeat what he did at the last TV debate, with the naming of names and huge salaries of HMO executives.

Dennis should set aside the hippy dippy, New Age vibe his campaign has taken on. He should have a working class approach to his campaign. Take on the plutocrats, Dennis! Take on the corporations. "Corporate" is now almost a dirty word among large segments of the Democratic primary voters. Use that idea, Dennis.

One new aspect of the Kucinich campaign should focus on immigration in a way that no other candidate is doing. As we DUers can see from immigration-related threads here on DU and on other forums, there is a great deal of anxiety, emotion and outrage about how immigration is lowering the wages of American citizens and taking jobs away from Americans.

Making immigration and its effects on Americans a new focus of his campaign does not make Dennis a racist or a bigot or a demagogue. It does not mean that he is blaming the immigrants. It means that he is addressing problems and concerns of Americans. And that is what the President is supposed to do.

The new immigration focus will propose to use already developed SSN verification plans that have been held back from widespread by corporate interests (I have been following this issue for some time...). And then address a new and strict set of employer fines for hiring illegal immigrants.

Also, Dennis should have a plan for halting or greatly diminishing the use of H1B and L1 visas to bring in foreign workers to work in the USA.

MOst of all, he should hammer his new focus on protecting Americans from the damaging effects of immmigration on wages and jobs. Hammer hammer hammer!

This new focus/proposals may garner Dennis some much needed media attention, and more importantly, it will attract a larger grassroots following and voter interest, as I personally know that there are many Americans who are very worried about what is happening with immigration. Dennis, if he acts quickly, can take advantage of the surprisingly widespead media attention given to Bush's new illegal immigrant amnesty plan.

Dennis should also propose amnesty for longtime illegals, as he has already done. After all, it is hardly fair to deport someone who has been living and working here a long time. This will soften his focus on protecting Americans from the bad effects of immigration.

Do it now, Dennis! Your campaign is foundering. No other candidate, Dem or GOP, is willing to tackle the festering sore on America that is third world immigration....it's great for investor profits, but it is hurting working Americans.
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OhioStateProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 02:42 PM
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1. YES!!!!!
Dennis needs to "Get Back"...he needs to become the tornado of energy and class warfarism that defined him

basically he needs to go on the full attack
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:05 PM
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2. no kidding? How much experience as a campaign adviser do you have?
I am glad to see DK is your candidate of choice. Maybe you can say a few kind words in your subject header sometime? I think you are somewhat unfamiliar with his platform and stances, at least it sounds that way. Welcome to the party!
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Printer70 Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:13 PM
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4. Playground Insult
"How much campaign experience do you have?" What kind of retort is that? Have we gone back to grade school for inspiration for our logic? You don't have to a President of a nation-state to know that the President is failing us, you don't have to be a CEO to know that Ken Lay screwed over his workers, and you don't have to be a campaign manager to recognize that Kucinich's campaign staff is letting him down. Kucinich has spent his life fighting for liberal principles and it must eat him up to see a Republican-in-remission former general take over the party.
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:23 PM
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7. That person is not blaming the "staff"
they're blaming ONE person who doesn't deserve it. ONE person who has just recently resumed managing the campaign, ONE person who has done more in the few short months since she's returned to the campaign than her predecessors were able to do since March.

It's nauseating, and furthermore it's damned unlikely that Dot Maver has the time or the inclination to come here to get bashed that way. There are ways to get criticism to the attention of campaign staff, and this is not it. DU is not the place to take your grievances if you want them seen by staffers and this person bloody well knows it or they can't possibly have been actively participating in the effort. Those of us who have been active resent the charges and the fact that they were presented in a forum where potential supporters may be discouraged from coming onboard, and anyone who truly wants to see Kucinich move ahead ought to think about what they say and do before they say or do it.

Show me a single Dean, Clark or any other candidates supporters doing something THIS stupid and damaging, and I'll let it go. Otherwise, I'm going to call them on acting in a way that hurts my candidates chances.
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OhioStateProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:30 PM
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8. im sorry if I upset you with my response
I didn't mean any of it as a criticism of Dot Maver

just a pining for Dennis to revert back to 1975 and show that fire
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:05 PM
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11. There's nothing wrong
with anything you've said, with the possible exception of "YES!!" and that purely because it implies complete agreement with the original post.

I'm inclined to agree with what you've stated, he does need to reach out to the people on a fundamental populist level with a bit less of a hippy-like tone. That's just my opinion, and I don't pull any strings with Dennis...nor does anyone as far as I know. LOL
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:15 PM
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5. Tinanator please....
let this nonsense drop off the page!

I responded to one of his threads earlier, but after seeing this one started shortly there-after, frankly I'm too pissed off to adequately represent Dennis.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:11 PM
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3. I'm impressed. You ought to send your resume directly to Dennis.
He needs someone who knows how to win him the nomination. Your advise may well be exactly what he needs.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:19 PM
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6. you already posted this just hours ago
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=71495

Again, your issues seem to be with DK himself and certainly are not Dot's doing. With supporters like you, who needs enemies.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:35 PM
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9. I think he's happy with the style of effort
and that does mean something to him.

even he realizes that he was the longest of longshots to start.

And he has already accomplished what he wanted which was to insure that the leftmost side of the party had a voice in the process this time around.
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AnAmerican Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:47 PM
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10. I have alerted the mods
This post violates Rule #6

"You may not start a new discussion thread in order to continue a current or recent flame war from another thread. The moderators have the authority to lock threads in order to contain flaming on a particular topic to only one thread at a time."
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Printer70 Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:14 PM
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12. Very un American for someone called anAmerican
Yes, let's call for censorship and used a strained interpretation of a rule to justify it. It's not flamebait, it's honest, constructive criticism and the fact that you want to silence it rather than debate the matter tells me a lot about your campaign.
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OhioStateProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:16 PM
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13. well, it is a dupe post(nt)
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:18 PM
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14. maybe to you it makes sense
Edited on Wed Jan-07-04 10:20 PM by tinanator
but to the actual supporters of our next President, its just trollish disrespect. Constructive criticism? For a quarter, I'll give you mine.

-dammit you tricked me into kicking this POS. Fine, I'll just go on to say it is unworthy of discussion, or counter attacking someones Satanic little servant. Lowbrow internet political trolling of the kind you might expect from corporatist supporters.
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AnAmerican Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:19 PM
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15. This whole thread is merely a repeat
Edited on Wed Jan-07-04 10:19 PM by AnAmerican
of a thread that was posted and had over 50 replies earlier. It is not censorship to abide by the rules and ask others to do the same, despite what you think. And frankly, I have had it up to here with snide little comments by supporters of other candidates.

If you honestly think a call to abide by rules that have been set in place is censorship than there is no use trying to convince you otherwise. Have a good night.

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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:25 PM
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17. As the author of this thread...
I have made my point, and I am sure my message will be carried onward and upward, so if you are answering for or defending me, please do not, as I can see this thread is very hurtful to those closely involved in DK's campaign. Thus, better it die quickly. Of course, if you are answering for yourself, well, that is of course your own concern.

However, I still feel that any paltry number of readers to this forum who might be put off of voting for or donating to Dennis pales in comparison to the number of potential voters and donors affected by the vibe surrounding his campaign.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 01:26 AM
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19. This seems more complete than his last thread and contains some
great advise that could help Dennis. As a Kucinich supporter, I hope someone forwards the good advice contained in this post to Dennis.

I wish that supporters of other candidates would also open up issues like this. I think there are ways that all the candidates could improve their campaigns. Our goal is to get a Democrat (preferably someone like Kucinich) elected and the candidates need to know what they could improve on before the nomination comes.

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auburnblu Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:22 PM
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16. Are you anti-immigrant
Halt H1B visas? Are you a xenophobe or something? What's up with all the anti-immigrant sentiment on here lately?
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:26 PM
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18. you might want to put a finger to the wind
Being the President of the United States means representing Americans. I am just trying to help Dennis convince Iowa voters that he will represent them.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 01:29 AM
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20. Immigration is not taking jobs from Americans
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 01:30 AM by IndianaGreen
Americans don't want to hurt their delicate hands by doing the sort of back breaking work many immigrants perform.

Don't blame the immigrants, blame the corporations and farming interests that rely on cheap imported labor.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 01:31 AM
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21. I say the kinisiologist should fire Kucinich and join a viable one
that's the thing. We are now in 2004, so I am fine with some major thinning of the field. Let's get it down to about 3 or 4 by March. That would be good.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 01:36 AM
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23. As long as those 3 o4 include Dennis, Edwards, Kerry and Sharpton
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 01:36 AM by genius
That's four. Moseley-Braun, Clark, Gephardt, Lieberman and even Dean can stick around. It's the Democratic way.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 01:32 AM
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22. I live in California where we wouldn't eat without immigrant farm workers
I'm a little unclear about your position from your posting. I know Dennis supported the driver's license bill that Arnold threw out.
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