Poll Spinners and Whiners: Enough Already!

[WiseMen]

Kerry is putting tough-guys Sasso and Whouley on point in his campaign. But here at DU there is a stream of excuses for bad news and SPINNING of the polls.

Is there some good reason for the endless spinning of poll numbers on GD 2004? It all seems like counter-productive waste of mental energy.

Isn’t it better to just accept that Kerry has been damaged in pubic opinion by the Repub Smear campaigns and the relentless attacks, and get to the job of defending Kerry’s credentials and honor,` and returning fire against Bush.

Sorry, but every time I click on a thread and find it is just a spin, I am angry that my time is being wasted, and my fellow democrats are being lulled into complacency.

Let’s face the facts and do what we have to do to win.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. The key is not to give up

one of the reasons the SBLiars/Rethugs pollsters are doing what they are doing is to discourage the left from voting. So IGNORE the idiots and make sure EVERYONE who is going to vote Kerry gets to the polls and votes.

[NMDemDist2]

2. Give UP??? NFWay

i'll be out again this weekend knocking on doors and making my 30 calls a night until then (thank heaven the Kerry campaign has web based phone banking I can do at home)

[NewYorkerfromMass]

3. what we have to do to win

1. Get out the vote.
2. Make sure electronic voting scams are headed off however possible.
3. Get out the vote.

[sonicx]

4. i'm not sure what poll spinning you are talking about but...

it's a fact that Newsweek and Time oversampled republicans.

[WiseMen]

6. Accept reports as they are. Stop using "registered" when "likely" is

the relevant baseline. Accept that any of these numbers may be
off but the report are what they are: input into what may be
happening on the ground.

All campaigns use polling because even poorly done these surveys
provide some insight.

Take the insight and get on with the solution. Denial does not help.

[sonicx]

7. polls have never discouraged me, but the ones with...

double digit leads have proven to be false becuase of their internal numbers(time and newsweek). they provide no insight at all.

as for likely vs registered...the 'real number' is probably in the middle since newly registered people aren't considered 'likely,' but not all 'registered' will vote.

[lancdem]

13. OK

That means we can crow about Bush blowing an 11-point lead. I can live with that.

And I'm thrilled we have some ass-kickers joining the campaign.

[bigtree]

5. You're spinning

[West Coast Democrat]

8. But you're one of the most poll-obsessed DUers!!

[WiseMen]

10. Again: use polls for what they say, NOT what the DON'T say.

It certianly seems a waste to endlessly misstate what a
particular source reports in this forum. It is cute but not
useful.

[West Coast Democrat]

14. Some polls are more reliable than others....

everyone who followed election 2000 knows this. There's no harm in stating that.

[dbt]

9. Polls: if it ain't Zogby, don't bother.

[demosincebirth]

12. I agree!

[Walt Starr]

11. There's one whiner on this board

And I won't be paying attention to that person any longer.

[shivaji]

15. The only poll that matters is on Nov 2nd...............

the rest is exercise in futility. IMHO the main reason for
Kerry's falling behind after the RNC is not speeches by
Arnold, McCain, Cheney or Bush. It was ZIG-ZAG ZELL MILLER.
Some bluedog dems were most likely the switcharoo's.

[WiseMen]

16. Zell was pretty harsh. Wonder how Kerry felt looking into the mirror

after that. Talk about the politics of personal destruction. Billy
had it easy.