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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:02 PM Original message |
60 Minutes Barnes thread - post here |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. well... |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Memo's from Col Killian, shrub's commanding officer. |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. That's the memo that caught my interest the most |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
67. Wonder how Rove is going to spin this one? |
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ikojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. Ben Barnes had very little face time... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. He got a little more a minute ago |
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Mr Bojangles (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
28. I saw that earlier on |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 09:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
107. Great sig. |
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Mr Bojangles (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-04 12:28 PM Response to Reply #107 |
115. Awwww, come on |
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radfringe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
3. CBS went off the air in my area - just as they were starting the story |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. You know, my RR went down at the same time |
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radfringe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. where are you? I'm in North East PA area |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Central Ohio |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. Mine ran |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. My cable TV ran fine |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Well |
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melv (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. they tried this in OKC as well, but |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
77. I don't understand.. they DID air the segment in OKC or not? n/t |
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melv (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:16 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. sorry. yes, they ended up showing it. n/t |
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AmerDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
26. MINE TOO |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
4. They found some personal documents from Killian who was |
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Libby2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
5. He's coming across as very credible |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Yep. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
9. HOLY CRAP!!!!!!! |
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BlueMole (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
52. "Straight Arrow" |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
10. Bush's spokesman Dan Barlett looked like he was going to cry. |
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mr_binklesworth (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
79. yup... |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 09:17 PM Response to Reply #79 |
98. * : Liar, liar, pants on fire! |
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ikojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
12. Ben seems very remorseful about helping rich |
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Must_B_Free (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
14. BOOM! Devistating to the Bush campaign - Showed Chimpy lying |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
15. Pretty heavy stuff |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
16. That's it??? |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. How long does it take to drop a bomb? |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. You are right |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 10:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
110. Well, yes. We all want that. |
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Scorpious_Maximus (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
17. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
19. Wow - this better have some legs - and story is up on CBS Website |
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melv (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. YES YES YES |
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alcuno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Send them an email thanking them. |
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melv (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. done! |
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alcuno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. For people who care, here's a link to CBS News. |
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Scorpious_Maximus (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. Sent them an email thanking them. n/t |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
75. So did I - I'm pleased with CBS. They also showed the Abu Ghraib photos |
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Nomad559 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
91. Direct link to streaming video |
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vivalarev (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
25. I thought that was weak!!!! |
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dumpster_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. yep. We need to kill the media |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
45. You're right, but this is just the beginning . . . now that the Boston |
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Slit Skirt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
90. we should boycott the media |
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Philostopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
31. I hate to drop a sh*t bomb, here. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Barnes was a red herring in this, Killian was the bomb that got dropped |
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Scorpious_Maximus (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:37 PM Response to Reply #33 |
47. Great Assessment! |
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Philostopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:38 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. Hey, I didn't say the wingnuts' babble discredited any of it. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Anybody brave enought to go to FR and see what they are saying? |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. You can't dress me in enough Hazmat gear |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
89. Okay, I went . . . they're just livid, of course |
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alcuno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. It's the word "suspended" that caught my eye. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
54. Deleted message |
Philostopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:46 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Um ... wasn't saying I believed it. |
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GOPAgainstGW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:10 PM Response to Reply #62 |
76. Righttt! Must be Why Millions of Republicans are saying NO MORE BUSH!!! |
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Philostopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:15 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Maybe you'll understand my attitude better if you know... |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:15 PM Response to Reply #62 |
81. I understand what you are saying, but I don't care what the Pukes will say |
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Philostopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:24 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. I sincerely hope you're right, yardwork. |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 09:25 PM Response to Reply #62 |
100. I understand what you're saying. |
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Philostopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 09:29 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Yeah, or at least not splutter and look upset! |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 09:49 PM Response to Reply #103 |
108. Yep..Florida is a lot like that. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 09:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
96. Ben Barnes was financial dir. for Scott McClellan's mom's repub. campaign |
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Philostopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 09:14 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Like it's any surprise Scotty would misrepresent Barnes. |
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Darby (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
34. At end Barnes conceded that he had "power over life and death" |
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Darby (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
57. Said can't see Vietnam memorial without thinking about it a lot |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:13 PM Response to Reply #57 |
78. That's true. The section of the Wall for 1968 is the deepest |
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Chomskyite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
39. WAFB, the Baton Rouge affiliate, has censored it |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:37 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Call the national CBS office or 60 minutes direct |
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alcuno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:38 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. I can't believe the affiliates taking off 60 Minutes II. |
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Flubadubya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
56. Well I'll be damned... |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:50 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Good point--remember how the CONservatives were always saying |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 11:05 PM Response to Reply #39 |
111. I didn't even know they could do that. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
43. remember.... |
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buycitgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 09:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
95. soooooohhhhhhhhhhh....criminal acitivities here? |
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irancontra (689 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
44. Barnes is a Dem and is doing fundraising for Dems, esp. John Kerry..blah |
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disneyboy (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:38 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. OVER? |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:54 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. It rocked--check the link above to see the summary on the 60 Mins |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:41 PM Response to Reply #44 |
55. Barnes was also the chief fundraiser for White House spokesperson... |
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Darby (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
49. Bartlett gave evasive answer as to why Bush did not take medical exam |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #49 |
73. The point is, in the military, you don't get to "discuss" your "personal |
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A_Possum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
53. So the late Killian is accused of a "partisan attack?" |
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Philostopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:42 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Cover ye'r ass! |
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A_Possum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:43 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Ohhh now I'm laughing even harder |
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misterphelps (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:45 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Didn't mention black mail + Texas lottery contract |
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Flubadubya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
64. Cover Your Ass... |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
71. CYA - Cover Your Ass |
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CornField (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
60. The Shrub purposefully disobeyed a direct order |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:02 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. Penalty would have been immediate activation to 'Nam! |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:23 PM Response to Reply #60 |
86. Welcome to DU! |
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canuckybee (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
65. Barnes was so impressive |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
66. I thought it was a good segment. Especially since there was documentation |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
70. This has to last more than one news cycle. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
72. For anyone who missed the show, info is at this link! |
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AmerDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. I hope they put up the full video! |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:16 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. Here it is!!! |
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AmerDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:19 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. wonderful |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
84. I don't understand Joshua Marshall's reaction - Rolled by WH? |
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AmerDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:27 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. Apparently he feels that |
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alcuno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:53 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. I thought it meant that Rather didn't challenge Bartlett. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
92. Deleted message |
RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 08:55 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Because he was Speaker of the House then, DUH! |
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alcuno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 09:33 PM Response to Reply #94 |
105. It's just a COINCIDENCE that the son of a Congressman got a boost |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 09:27 PM Response to Reply #92 |
101. Barnes has already said he got Bush is.. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 09:51 PM Response to Reply #92 |
109. now how do you try to explain Bush trying to shirk his responsibilities |
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cheshire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
99. Shrubs spokesman eye is twitching something fierce. LIar. |
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AmerDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 09:28 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. where, when? |
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crickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 09:37 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Direct link to streaming video |
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AmerDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-04 12:11 AM Response to Reply #106 |
112. that doesn't show Bartlette squirming. |
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crickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-04 12:22 AM Response to Reply #112 |
114. Apologies |
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crickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-04 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
104. The file video of soldiers in Vietnam |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-09-04 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
113. Kick. |
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