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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:30 AM
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Didn't Take Long For the Kitty Kelly book to fall apart
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=811843&mesg_id=811843


How did I know it wasnt going to last? Is it even out yet?

The book will be ignored where not debunked. It will also make Legit books look like they are of the same type of trash as her trash. They will all get dismissed.

Kitty Kelly is a lying hag who did a disservice to Kerry.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:37 AM
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1. Why do you think that?
n/t
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:37 AM
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2. We knew that but we'll buy the book anyways....
only because it'll bump the SwiftAss Idiots book off the top of the bestseller's list. Plus the feeble-minded folks who bought the SwiftLoser's book out of curiosity will probably take a peek at the juicy gossip found in Kitty Kelley's book.

I plan on picking up a copy of it on September 15th and then promptly tossing it in a box of books I have in my closet of stuff I haven't read in years.

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takumi Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:38 AM
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3. "Didn't take long . . ."
As another poster made clear . . . Sharon Bush's non-denial denial means very little (she could have passed on the 'dirt' to someone who then passed it on to Kitty Kelley. You have to remember that the Bushes (and even the ex-Bushes) are very good at lying/deceiving/misleading, etc.!
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Katherine2 Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:52 AM
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10. It's like a parallel universe
when the Republicans can take things that people like the Swift Boat Veterans and that Gary Aldrich guy say at face value, but scoff at this book. They honestly believe the books that said the Clintons decorated the White House Christmas trees with crack pipes and used condoms, and that Bill Clinton had sex with prostitutes in the bushes, that Web Hubbell is Chelsea Clinton's real dad, and that Hillary had affairs with Web Hubbell, Vince Foster AND Madeleine Albright. But somehow this book is questionable? I also find their indignation quite funny.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:38 AM
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4. I'm not saying that anything in her book is true
Edited on Thu Sep-09-04 12:39 AM by khephra
But you do know that there's multiple sources for the book? I've actually only seen quotes from people other than Sharon Bush. The quotes I've seen were from classmates or childhood friends.


Sharon Bush has her own "tell all" book coming out soon, so she might have reasons of her own to disown past comments. But like I said, I'm not saying any of it is true. You might want to read it before you actually form an opinion on it. I have no opinion on it, as I plan on reading it and then checking out the sources.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:39 AM
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5. I see no reason to believe Sharon Bush over Kelley
I imagine that Sharon is getting all kinds of threats from the Bushies right now.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:44 AM
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7. Kelley is a pro at this - I think she may have CYA'ed
Key is did she reaffirm what Sharon said in the followup?

The next day, Herz said, Kelley had a 90-minute phone conversation with Bush in the presence of Peter Gethers, her Doubleday editor. Gethers confirmed the accuracy of the statement yesterday.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6706-2004Sep8.html
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:51 AM
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8. I think so too
Edited on Thu Sep-09-04 01:05 AM by syrinx9999
As far as I know, Kitty Kelley has never been successfully sued for libel or slander. I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong about that.
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:44 AM
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6. I would do the same. I don't want to die. Bush Crime Family.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:51 AM
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9. Whahahaaha...
...sorry, I've never taken a Bush (present or former) "at their word", not about to start now, especially after we've seen so many that have criticized Bush "recant" under pressure. Pfftt...
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:58 AM
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11. Doubleday issued a statement
Saying they stand behind the book and that Sharon Bush had met with someone from the publisher to go over it.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:59 AM
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12. Come On Now...Let's Play A Game
Truth means zero. If it bleeds it leads. Anything with drugs, sex, power, race and fame will sell and sell big. Truth be damned, good dish is what it's all about. Gossip runs miles before the truth gets up.

Shall we revisit Monicagate...all the charges against Clinton...from cokerunning to how many different women to killing Ron Brown and the list was endless. How much was true? How much passed as "fact" despite being debunked? The same for the Slimeboaters. It's one of the right wing's favorite tricks and now it's being used on them.

Let these junkyard dogs fight among themselves as to if this book is true or not and whose a source and who isn't. This is what will fuel this story...and the media will play and be played.

Kelley and her people are savvy. They know what they're putting out there and who they're going up against, and they're betting the power of the pen will reap lots of gold for them at the Bush's expense...but isn't this how this evil family got to where they're at?

Sit back, enjoy the show. The synergy should be interesting. If the media attempts to spike the story or discredit it, people are gonna be curious to see what the book is about and then drive it up the best-sellers lists which will compell the networks to cover it even more. Honestly, I don't care if it's true or not...it won't affect my attitude toward this evil family, but it sure could cause them lots of embarassment and headaches at a very inappropriate time...and that, I sense is a very, very good thing!
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Ruffhowse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:13 AM
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16. Best comment here, I agree completely. Let it ride and
sit back for the show.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:23 AM
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18. Bravo! Excellent perspective. :)
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JSJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:02 AM
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13. kitty's book still stands, intact, as solid journalism n/t
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:05 AM
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14. Did not take long for you to jump to that conclusion.
Wrong as it is.
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:07 AM
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15. Do flowers wilt when you walk past?

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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:21 AM
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17. I don't agree at all.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:32 AM
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19. Who could take someone named Kitty seriously?
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JSJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:37 AM
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21. me- but, then i've actually read her stuff n/t
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:35 AM
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20. It ONLY has to change 1% of the peoples minds to make a huge difference
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:53 AM
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22. Sharon doesn't want to have an untimely "heart attack".
Or "plane crash". I wouldn't be the least bit surprised that they got to her.

Around the time of her divorce, she was making all kinds of noise about writing a tell-all book about the family, but then suddenly changed her mind.

I think you're wrong about Kelley.

And it doesn't hurt Kerry at all. She'a a gossip writer, not a political operative, and he didn't sic her on the Bushes. The fact that she doesn't have a political axe to grind gives her a little MORE credibility in this case than say, Michael Moore, who we know will present the facts in the way most favorable to his cause.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:58 AM
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23. Oh yeah? Then why this...
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x774571

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