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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:57 PM
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What is this form that Hannity wants Kerry to sign?
And why won't Kerry sign it? I need help with a Freep.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:59 PM
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1. Form 180, the same one Bush won't sign
It basically gives carte blanche for the media to inspect all military records, including medical records.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:00 PM
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4. Hasn't Kerry released all his military records?
I know there are quite a few of them posted on his web site.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:06 PM
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12. Everything but the medical records
and I don't blame ANYBODY from keeping medical records private.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:59 PM
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2. Hannity did not love his country enough to join the military
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:00 PM
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3. Shimp Hammity is a jackoff.
And so is the Freep. Tell em to sign your ballsack, or your arse.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:11 PM
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18. LOL!!!!!!!!
That's a desperately-needed laugh! Thanks!
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:01 PM
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5. Kerry may be playing coy with this
There no point in releasing the 180 before Bush does. He may know there is nothing damagaing in his medical records, but why give up the leverage?

And what about CHENEY's CURRENT health records?

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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:01 PM
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6. Oh ghod...
This again. It's authorization to go on a fishing expedition, kinda like allowing anyone to tear apart any records of your life.

No, Kerry does not have to unilaterally have to "disarm" and give them phewls carte blanche to twist the content of those documents.

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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:03 PM
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7. I thought Bush signed it?
I need this info FAST!!!
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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:04 PM
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8. please...fast
I need to show someone who told me Bush signed it that he in fact did not!!!
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:06 PM
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9. Hannity said Bush signed it.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:08 PM
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15. Hannity is a known LIAR
Bush NEVER signed Form 180.
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ezekiel333 Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:06 PM
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31. No Bush didn't, but all he has to do is click here...
Edited on Thu Sep-09-04 05:07 PM by floridapatriots
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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:06 PM
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11. anyone???
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:10 PM
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16. Bush never signed Form 180.
If anybody claims he did, tell them to produce a copy. That will shut them up for good on the matter.
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:15 PM
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22. Here you go Demi_Babe
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:22 PM
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26. Here is another.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:24 PM
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27. Here is your rebuttal with proof.
Bush did NOT in fact sign form 180 as per:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20040818-121345-3874r


"I don't believe he signed any form, but he did authorize making his military records available publicly," Mr. McClellan said. "We have released all the records, and reporters were allowed to look at his medical records as well."


BUT as we discovered yesterday, in fact he NOT release ALL his military records to the public for the press to sift through or the White House would not have been forced to release those documents yesterday concerning Bush's suspension from flight status.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:10 PM
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17. Bush DID NOT sign form 180...He did order the records be disclosed and..
...as commander-in-chief, they are supposed to be disclosed, but as yesterday's "mysterious" release of records show, the Bush administration has not been very forthcoming with the records.
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:18 PM
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35. Make them prove he did....
hard to prove a negative.
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:06 PM
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10. Bush was AWOL, his records were scrubbed,
quit letting some asswipe make you jump through hoops. Grow a spine and tell them that Bush is a chickenshit, chickenhawk, war-mongering, priveleged chimp son of a corrupt old motherfucking NAZI.

Duh.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:13 PM
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20. That's funny . . .
. . . Your description reminds me of a video link my freeper brother-in-law sent this morning with the comment "The democrats are getting pretty desperate." I have to admit I quite enjoyed the vid.

http://www.blackstarsblog.com/bushin41point2.swf

TYY:7
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:07 PM
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13. Bush NEVER singed it
Bush turned over incomplete "packets" of his records, but he has NEVER signed the form 180.
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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:12 PM
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19. Walt
is there a link to prove this that I can show?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:13 PM
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21. You CANNOT prove a negative. In logical discourse, the claimant
Edited on Thu Sep-09-04 01:15 PM by Walt Starr
with the initial positive assertion is under the burden of proof.

Your Freeper claims Bush signed it. It is up to your Freeper to produce a copy of the aforementioned signed document.

Edited to add: IF your Freeper refuses to produce the said document, then tell them that Kerry signed Form 180 and it's up to them to prove he didn't.
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michigandem2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:16 PM
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23. precisely...
if he says bush signed it..than he would need to show you that bush signed it..how can you prove he didn't???

ask him to get you that copy...
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Ted206 Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:21 PM
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25. Or you could just say that
Bush did a "180" on his 180 and said he would release all his records but then didn't, yet another flip flop.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:16 PM
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24. No....
...Bush did NOT sign. All of what has come out recently, came out due to the law suit filed by the AP viz a FOIA request for certain documents concerning Bush's military records.
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:07 PM
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14. Medical Records Are Private.
Same reason Wrong Way won't sign it. Both sides have released "all the records they could find" (that's a snipe at Wrong Way), with the big difference being that all of the records were there for Kerry's side, but Wrong Way's kept being "misplaced/destroyed."

Tell your friendly freeper that both men were honorably discharged, the Navy awarded medals as it saw fit, and if he thinks the country is in good hands, vote for Wrong Way. (You may want to mention the missing Osama, 95% of the containers still not being inspected, and the shabby way the military folks have been treated, but as long as its not really affecting his life, he probably won't care.) Good luck. :)
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DrRock Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 02:03 PM
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28. Kerry needs to start showing some sack!
He's got my vote, but dammit, he needs to start getting in Bush's face. You want to know how to win over the swing voters? You show some personality and some backbone.

This guy served honorably in Vietnam, risked his life, got shot, and received numerous medals for it. His opponent was playing aruound in the National Guard, and can't even prove he completed his duty there. Not to mention most of the people in his cabinet also skipped out on military duty alltogether. Plus, all these bozos like Hannity, Limbaugh, & O'Reilly weren't in the military, even though they all were at the right age during times of conflict. Yet Kerry just sits back and lets them smear his name over and over and over. How can someone whose military record is shaky at best possibly be attacking the credibility of a man who was injured and honored for his service during Vietnam?

Kerry needs to step up and call these pussies out. He needs to show some life, and start attacking the Bush Administration and all its cronies. Let's face it, we live in a country where people love reality TV and Jerry Springer and all that kind of crap. If it's not exciting, people aren't going to be interested. Why do you think Clinton got elected? It was because he was exciting, and charismatic, and got in people's faces. Nobody cared that he was a pot smoker and an adulterer. Kerry needs to step it up and challenge these fools, and he needs to do it now!
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 04:54 PM
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29. Welcome to DU!
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:06 PM
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30. Hannity is an obnoxious junk-yard dog bullying chickenhawk coward
Someone needs to ask him why HE hasn't enlisted.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:10 PM
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32. Hannity: You're a limp-dick and your wife signed
a piece of paper which said you are...at least, some people say she did.

did she?
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:11 PM
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33. Who give a flip what Hannity wants?
The absolute most irrelevant twit on the idiot box...bar none!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:16 PM
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34. bush and Kerry both
allowed reporters to look at their med records, but BOTH bush & Kerry refused to allow the reporters to take copies of the med records, and BOTH bush & Kerry have refused to sign Form 180.

Regardless how much Hannity lies otherwise.
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CityDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:38 PM
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36. Hannity is a right wing jag off
He didn't even graduate from high school.
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DrRock Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:49 AM
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37. Is that true?
I would love to see the proof on that. And again, why doesn't anyone ever call these douchebags out on this kind of thing? Like when Michael Moore was on O'Reilly; Why, when he was asking him if he would be willing to have his children die for this cause, and O'Reilly said, "No, but I'd put my own life on the line." didn't he ask him where he was during Vietnam? It's time for these rich boy, pansy-ass chicken hawk hypocrites to be knocked off their pedestals and be exposed for what they really are. Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, and worst of all, Tucker Carlson. Can you imagine that bow-tie wearing little nancy boy strapping on a weapon and defending his country? Fat chance! He's the kind of guy who would give secrets to the enemy to save his own ass.
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