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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:07 AM
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***OFFICIAL Franken vs Coleman thread***
We have like 10 of them going. Lets focus into one.

http://electionresults.sos.state.mn.us/20081104/ElecRslts.asp?M=S&R=S
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:07 AM
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1. 1:06am update
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 02:11 AM by RL3AO
NORM COLEMAN 1,095,431 (42.20)
AL FRANKEN 1,082,450 (41.70)
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DemFromMem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:08 AM
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2. Ooh, just 80 votes behind
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:08 AM
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3. Franken down by slightly less than 13000 now. will be updated again in 2 minutes.
(they're updating every 5 minutes)
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:11 AM
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9. Per SoS site, down 14,500
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:08 AM
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4. All depends on the outstanding areas at this point...
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:09 AM
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5. 92% in Franken down by about 2,100
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tomnjoy Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:10 AM
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6. Yep
It looks like St. Louis County (Duluth) is one of the outstanding areas, and it is very strong Dem territory. This is going to be VERY close...but I think Al still has a chance.

Come on Al! We really need this one (especially with Bachmann winning - ugh!).
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:10 AM
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7. I'm hoping Minneapolis and Duluth! nt
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:10 AM
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8. 1:10 am update
Precincts Reporting: 92.15% (3806 of 4130)


NORM COLEMAN 1,103,373 42.22
AL FRANKEN 1,088,872 41.67
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:11 AM
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10. Can anyone answer this important question???????
In Minnesota, if neither candidate gets 50% will there be a run-off?

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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:13 AM
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14. No n/t
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:13 AM
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15. no runoff
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:14 AM
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16. I would guess no since Jesse Ventura won the governorship as a 3rd party candidate. n/t
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frankenforpres Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:11 AM
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11. looking bad but im hopeful
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:12 AM
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12. 1500 down with 93% counted
Nervous? Me? Nah!
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neoteric lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:12 AM
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13. 14K
Republican NORM COLEMAN 1103373 42.22
Democratic AL FRANKEN 1088872 41.67

14501 differential... close but not as close as I'd hope. Let's go Al!
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tomnjoy Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:14 AM
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17. CNN vs SOS ... very confusing
There seems to be a big difference between the SOS results and CNN's reporting. It's driving me crazy!!
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:17 AM
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19. Colemans vote is similar
but CNN has 11,000 more votes for Franken than SOS.
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tomnjoy Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:18 AM
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20. Yeah...I wish I knew which one was right!!
I would tend to believe the SOS...but then again, maybe not!

According to CNN, Franken is only down 5,000 but according to SoS he is down 15,000
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illuminaughty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:26 AM
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41. CNN was saying recount for the race
What's up?
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:27 AM
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42. Recount if it finishes with 0.5%
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:16 AM
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18. Down 3515
Coleman 1,103,900 42%
Franken 1,100,385 42

Franden down 3515, per CNN http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/individual/#mapSMN

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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:20 AM
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22. How can a news organization have more recent numbers than the SOS ?
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:22 AM
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27. Telephone vs. Upload machine to SoS n.t
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:28 AM
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44. Hennepin county and St Louis county NOT yet fully counted ...
Those are the most populous counties, and Franken is running a good 15% points ahead in each ....

St Louis county should yield a 7,000 vote gain for Franken from this moment alone .....
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:19 AM
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21. not much from Duluth yet?
odd.
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tomnjoy Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:22 AM
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26. According to CNN, 68% in
CNN is reporting 68% of St. Louis county.
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:23 AM
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29. SOS is reporting 58% in St. Louis
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tomnjoy Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:24 AM
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33. Argh!
Why does CNN seem to have more current records than the SOS? This is a nail-biter!
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:25 AM
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36. Indiana SOS site was way behind earlier. I can see why.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:20 AM
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23. Down by approx 16500
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:21 AM
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24. LOL
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 02:22 AM by prodn2000
Um... Link?


ETA - :sarcasm:

:-)



It is a 1350 - 1750 vote race at this point.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:23 AM
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30. From the Sec. of State site in the OP
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:24 AM
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34. Yep
:extreme sarcasm:



The SOS has old/bad/wrong data.

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tomnjoy Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:23 AM
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31. MN Secretary of State results
http://electionresults.sos.state.mn.us/20081104/ElecRslts.asp?M=S&R=all&P=A&Races=''

Republican NORM COLEMAN 1112508 42.25
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1095947 41.62
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:28 AM
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45. I know where it came from.
It, however, is incomplete.

The lion's share of the remaining votes have not been included in Mark Ritchie's numbers.

Cook County
Itasca County
Hennepin County
St Louis County


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tomnjoy Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:31 AM
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48. Sorry, I misunderstood your post
You asked for a link so I thought you wanted to know where the number came from.

These differences in numbers are driving me crazy! :) Come on Al!!!
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:32 AM
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51. Al is good!
He will win by a very small margin

1500-2500 votes.

But he will win.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:21 AM
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25. I can't believe this idiot Coleman might keep Wellstone's seat
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MN Treehugger Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:22 AM
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28. Because it can't be said enough
GO AL! I can't sleep until I know. I'm serial.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:24 AM
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32. Is Hennepin (sp sorry) in yet? n/t
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:24 AM
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35. 87%
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tomnjoy Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:26 AM
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39. Some of it
According to CNN, 87% of Hennepin County is reporting
According to SOS, 90.6% of Hennepin County is reporting
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tomnjoy Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:26 AM
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40. I should have said MOST of it ... 87-90%
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:25 AM
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37. TIghtened quite a bit since last update - down by approx 10,500
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MichDem10 Donating Member (644 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:25 AM
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38. Where the hell are the votes for Coleman coming from?? He keeps gaining - ARRGGHH!
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:28 AM
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43. SOS down to 10,500
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:30 AM
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46. And HOLY SHIT
We are within 190 votes.


And Hennepin and Itasca counties are not fully counted.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:30 AM
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47. 374 on CNN.com!
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:32 AM
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52. WOW! Now down to 80!!
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:31 AM
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49. Now it is 78 votes
See a trend?

:-)
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:32 AM
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50. CNN down to 80 votes
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:33 AM
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53. HAH ! ... Google has ...
U.S. Senate
Coleman (R) 42% 1,132,571
Franken (D) 42% 1,132,494
94% precincts reporting
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MichDem10 Donating Member (644 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:33 AM
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54. Holy Shit! Down to 74!!
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:34 AM
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56. good news -
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MichDem10 Donating Member (644 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:34 AM
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57. Damn it - now 1572
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tomnjoy Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:33 AM
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55. Oooo...78 votes....come on!!!
Damn...I'm about to pass out! Come on Al - we need ya!!! :)
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:35 AM
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58. Can anyone explain the discrepancy between the MN SOS site and CNN?
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:36 AM
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61. Here
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:35 AM
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59. Please God, this is the only Senate Race I care about...
I cannot sleep without knowing if we have a Senator Franken.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:36 AM
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60. CNN's numbers are more updated and show the race within 80 votes
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:38 AM
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62. was looking at MPR- is St. Louis Co (Duluth area) only 60% in? Plus Itasca 68%? Dems!
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:38 AM
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63. Google Now at 1572 ...
U.S. Senate
Coleman (R) 42% 1,137,591
Franken (D) 42% 1,136,019
94% precincts reporting
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:39 AM
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64. The SoS results are totally different
If we lose this because of third party crap I'm gonna be maaaaad.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:42 AM
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65. JOSH MARSHALL: POSSIBLE RECOUNT
2:32 AM (ET) ... Franken-Coleman race is truly down to the wire. A matter of a couple hundred votes at the moment, with, seemingly, a Dem advantage among the areas remaining to report. Seems very possible this one goes to a recount, regardless of which guy wins.

www.talkingpointsmemo.com

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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:43 AM
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66. Please keep reporting...
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tomnjoy Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:46 AM
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69. CNN at 1,400 down with 95% reporting
Coleman 1,141,916 42%
Franken 1,140,507 42%
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tomnjoy Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:47 AM
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72. And St. Louis County still at 68%
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:45 AM
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67. Google has 1212 ....
U.S. Senate
Coleman (R) 42% 1,138,466
Franken (D) 42% 1,137,254
94% precincts reporting
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:46 AM
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68. One sight has him down by 11,000 one by 1,200 that is a big difference.
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:47 AM
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71. Is it city or country side left to report?
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:49 AM
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74. looks to me like Minneapolis and Duluth and some Dem northern areas left. nt
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:46 AM
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70. 95% in. 1469 votes down.
:(
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:48 AM
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73. argh. n/t
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tomnjoy Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:52 AM
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78. Big Dem area not in yet though
St. Louis County is only 68% reporting. This is big Dem territory and includes the city of Duluth. It will be close, but there's still hope!
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:49 AM
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75. Google has 1075 ....
U.S. Senate
Coleman (R) 42% 1,140,732
Franken (D) 42% 1,139,657
95% precincts reporting
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:50 AM
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76. Damn ... Gordon Smith just took the lead over Merkley in OR
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:52 AM
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77. Google has 1409 now ... DAMN ! ....
U.S. Senate
Coleman (R) 42% 1,141,916
Franken (D) 42% 1,140,507
95% precincts reporting
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:54 AM
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79. CNN: 1365
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:55 AM
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80. Strib gave up and went to press - expecting close enough for automatic recount
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:57 AM
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81. CNN: 1010!
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tomnjoy Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:57 AM
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82. Franken just took the lead!!!!!
Franken 1,150,830 42%
Coleman 1,149,820 42%
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tomnjoy Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:58 AM
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84. St. Louis County numbers coming up
St. Louis County reporting just jumped from 68% to 84%. That's where Al's numbers are coming from.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:59 AM
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85. Itasca and Hennepin too. nt
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:58 AM
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83. Holy shit. Franken is ahead 96% in. CNN
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 02:59 AM by LibInTexas
65 votes.

I'll take what we can get.

GO GO GO AL!

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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:00 AM
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87. Agreed! GO AL GO!
I want the quicky impeachment!
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:00 AM
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86. St Louis County should add about 6000 more for Franken over Coleman
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 03:01 AM by Trajan
YEAH ! ....
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MN Treehugger Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:01 AM
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89. Go Al go!
Keep your fingers crossed for us DUers!
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:00 AM
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88. Would Al put us up to 60 senate seats?
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:01 AM
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90. 59 assuming AK does the right thing. NT
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:02 AM
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92. No, but it will mean that we can get someone to make everyone watch
C-Span.
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:03 AM
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95. H'ah?
:yoiks:
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:02 AM
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93. I never doubted you Al.... 'cept those 4 times I gave you up for dead.
:dem:
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:03 AM
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94. No .... about 57, unfortunately ....
The Senate races havent went all that well ...
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:04 AM
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97. Dang it. I was just looking at the presidential results.
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tomnjoy Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:01 AM
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91. Franken up by 1,065
Whew this is exhausting!

Franken 1,151,156 42%
Coleman 1,150,091 42%
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:04 AM
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98. YEAH ! ....
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:04 AM
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96. **********NEW THREAD*********
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:12 AM
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99. Now coleman is up by 1100
What's going on here
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