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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:44 PM
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As happy as I am over an Obama victory, I can't help but
remember that gay Americans suffered major blows to their basic rights and liberties. I hope that we can all work to help enlighten our nation's citizens and achieve the equality that is their birth right.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:45 PM
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1. +1
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:46 PM
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2. The likely passing of Prop 8 has ruined all the joy I was feeling over the Obama victory.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:46 PM
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3. Kick, because this is so right. n/t
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:47 PM
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4. It also happened in 2004. It was compounded by Bush winning.
I'll take today's scenario. At least we still have hope.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:49 PM
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5. Absolutley, last night was just a small wave of change to come....
the rights of all Americans shall be once again be assured...the fight is by far not over.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:50 PM
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6. Thank you. As a lesbian, I ask one thing of my fellow Democrats today.
Don't let this divide us! The majority is always trying to divide minorities from one another, because they know if we all band together, we can accomplish amazing things.

Proposition 8 and similar measures are deliberately timed to divide GLBTQ people from everyone else. Don't let them succeed. Continue the fight for human rights.

Thank you.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:54 PM
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7. I hope that we will stay united
I like to think that Obama's election shows anything is possible.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:19 PM
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11. If DU is an indication,
Scapegoating one minority for the broad based discrimination against another will have Democrats divided and battling and vilifying each other before inauguration.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:58 PM
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15. The Republicans would love nothing more.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:43 PM
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16. What would you be saying
If gays had voted 3-1 to deny blacks the right to marry?
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kdpeters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 06:54 PM
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20. You are so right on target
I have absolutely nothing else to add.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 06:58 PM
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24. yardwork. I am ashamed that I didn't realize that this was a possibility.
My friends and family in CA worked to prevent this from becoming a reality and I wish I had done more.

I just didn't know. I got complacent. I thought that in CA saying no to Prop 8 was a given.

Forgive me. I will do whatever it takes to make this right.


:hug:
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:03 PM
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8. AGREED! Equal Rights for all! K&R
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:05 PM
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9. Like you
Last night, was a time of great joy on Obama winning, but this morning, as I read my local paper and the state's election results, some of that happiness has been replaced by disappointment and frustration.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:16 PM
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10. Exactly
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cameozalaznick Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:21 PM
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12. I feel for you, but...
At least Obama and Biden spoke more openly about gay rights than any other candidate that's gone that far. It's just a matter of time. Remember, don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:27 PM
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14. I am not gay, I just feel very strongly about gay rights
I have a hard time celebrating a victory, when this happened as well.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:48 PM
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18. They equivocated. They did not lead. There is no party unity on gay rights.
Rights were removed and denied. Shame on the Democratic party.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:21 PM
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13. for me it's like when Lieberman beat Lamont here in CT in 2006.
I couldn't be happy about whatever good came from that election cycle because he won after he LOST the primary and ran as an independent ("CT for Lieberman" was the party listed on the ballot) and all the CT GOP voted for him.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:47 PM
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17. I concur. There's still a LOT of work to do for civil rights and equality in this country.
One of the best parts of Obama's platform is to improve education, and make HIGHER education possible for all Americans. Education is going to go a long way in helping to take the superstition (which many religious beliefs are) and bigotry out of fashion.

:grouphug: To all our GLBT friends, we'll keep working with you until you are truly free AND safe!
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Psst_Im_Not_Here Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 04:56 PM
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19. Absolutely
I'm so disappointed and pissed. There needs to be legislation against money coming from out of state sources to fund in state initiatives.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 06:55 PM
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21. 960 Green says they're still counting absentee ballots on Prop. 8.
A glimmer of hope perhaps?
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PolNewf Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 06:55 PM
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22. Is Prop 8 reversable (say in 4 years)?
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 06:57 PM
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23. it shows how the real enemy is
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 07:00 PM by Neo
not the neocons, they are soundly defeated, but the Christian right. They are beyond any realm of tolerance or reason. They are not the opposition, they are simply the enemy who needs to be silenced once and for all.
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