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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:23 AM
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Do you think that the recently released pilot's log of Bush indicates
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 04:23 AM by saracat
he was as afraid of flying as he is of horses????
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:29 AM
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1. or
bicycles.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:39 AM
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3. Makes the windsurfing photo op not look so bad
doesn't it? LOL.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:43 AM
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5. LOL
sure doesn't. At least Kerry can ride a bike and windsurf. bush has shown us he can't ride a bike and do a photo-op at the same time let alone chew gum.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:38 AM
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2. Not afraid but
he flys as well as he walks or rides bicycles.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:44 AM
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6. has
his bicycle status been pulled?
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Heath.Hunnicutt Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:41 AM
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4. I want to know...
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 04:42 AM by Heath.Hunnicutt
if it matches the maintenace records of the F-102s in terms of total hours accumulated, when, and so on.

I have been in modern planes that had things like odometers that counted off the hours. It was normal to write the hours down in the log book, and to overhaul the engines at a certain number of hours. According to Kelley's report, there were only 6 or so possible planes involved, and their tail numbers should be available.

I recently read the book Convair F-102 Delta Dagger by Wayne Mutza, ISBN 0-7643-1062-3. It is an excellent read and contains an appendix with information per-serial-number relating to deployments. Information in the chapters gives dates for certain special events.

I have a spreadsheet of all 1130+ F-102s, by serial number, with some information. Only 86 serial numbers are worth looking into. Six of those should fit the dates involved. This is related to my posts in Alabama and DC-area forums asking for a 1-day volunteer to volunteer and do research:

Alabama message:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=137x283

District of Colombia message:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=148

Edited: add ISBN to title.
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Ruffhowse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:49 AM
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7. He's afraid of Segways now since he took a tumble on one.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:01 AM
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8. Kerry Rode - Bush Dived

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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:36 AM
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9. Funny, pilots love to fly....
Flying airplanes is a big high for pilots. Look at poppy bush, he loves to parachute. John Glen has a passion for flying. John Travolta flies his airplanes everyday. I just don't know of any pilot who out of the blue just stops flying, like little bush has done.

Maybe little bush was just trained on one of those simulators, like movie studios use. He's the son of a powerful man, whatever he demanded, he got. Aren't bushe's twins doing the same. They order their CIA bodyguards around and threaten them. The little bitches.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:55 AM
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11. Maybe Bush loves to fly, too
What could possibly be a strong enough threat to motivate an aviator to deliberately miss a routine flight qualification physical?

Maybe the threat of detection of drug abuse? Some people have said that is what happened; me, I don't know. It could be a lot of things.

Here again, The Public Has A Right To Know about Bush's military aviation career, just as we have a right to know the minutiae of John Kerry's life.

--bkl
PS: Glenn and Travolta are high-profile Democrats. Well, maybe not Travolta to the same extent as Glenn.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:36 AM
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10. I heard Shrub freaked when an instructor went into a stall
I don't know that much about flying airplanes, but my husband does, as his father ran a flight school. At age 13, my husband knew how to fly a plane, and what to do in case of a stall. When he heard that Bush had freaked out, he said that the man has aerophobia.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:55 AM
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12. There have been alot of reports of aerophobia,
and some casual remarks of bu$h senior at the time, who said junior found flying "frightening".
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:59 AM
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13. Full power on Stall...... Fun
The drop in a monster rollercoaster ride is between 50 and 100 feet. The drop in a full power on stall is ~ 500 feet.

Been there ... dropped like a brick ..... many times..... hehehehe




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rullery Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 06:21 AM
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14. Georgie Boy became Georgie Girl flying in his (her) airplane!
News article says that the last months Bush flew, he needed multiple attempts to land his single-seater plane. He also flew two-seater trainers, several times as a passenger. After that he stopped flying altogether. Now we know why he didn't report for his flight physical, even though ordered to do so by his superior officer. It was so that he wouldn't have to fly those scarey airplanes anymore!
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