I can't stand Bush, but I have to admit

[lancdem]

the GOP is much better organized than the Dems and stays on message. Compare the SBVT ads and Kerry's nonresponse to them until the damage was done to the CBS AWOL story, which has become a debate over the memos' authenticity in less than two days. Notice we're no longer talking about what Bush did.

I think John Kerry would be a fine president, but he did not assemble the best campaign staff he could've, and we're paying for that now. I'm glad he brought in new people (I hope they really are in charge), but we've lost so much valuable time already.

I'm tired of seeing us being beaten like a drum by Rove. Why can't we manipulate the media like they so? :grr:

[Dawgs]

1. Relax dude, there is plenty of time..

You are right that we are looking like fools... talking about typewriters. It's exactly what Rove wants, but it will be okay.

[Gato Moteado]

6. we don't look like fools...

it's hard to look like a fool when you're standing next to an idiot like bush. kerry and the dems look like einsteins compared to him. it's just that half of the voting public is comprised of rednecks, religious fanatics and undereducated morons and they want someone just like them in office so they vote for the chimp.

if the dem voters go out to the polls this year and there are enough watchdogs in place to keep the filthy repubs from stealing another election, we'll be ok.

[Texas_Dem]

2. Well... its because we actually think

and question, and scrutinize. Sometimes we do it when we should not have to or there is no need for it. We should not over-think this election. Remember "It's the economy stupid" from '92? It still is the economy in 2004.

It's how this administration has scared the American people into wasting their hard earned tax dollars on a war we should not be paying for. It is how this administration has lined their friends pockets with no-bid contracts all in the name of "fighting the war on 'terra'." All this at the cost of jobs, healthcare, envonmental preservation.....

[Gato Moteado]

3. because they own the media.

nt

[seabeyond]

4. they are willing ot be crooks and liars

not something to be proud of. lordy what a retarded society we have become

[JI7]

5. The media took Bush's side , why act as if the media is objective when

it's not.

some people on du act as if the media is independent and objective. it's the media who took to defending bush on their own. the republicans weren't out in force. they didn't even claim the forgeries.

just as with kerry, the campaign DID respond. but the media even with facts of the swift boat liars being liars kept pushing the lie.

[irancontra]

7. Why can't we manipulate the media like they so?

I wonder.... GE & time Warner want WAR. They love the war on terra. They love manipulation... great for ratings. The more cnn tries to be like fox, msnbc tries to top them for ratings. More mud, more fuzziness around the stories. THey never come to any conclusions, and they take their lead from the top (right-wing talking points)// Stop asking why & start sending some emails to the networks. or boycott them. I have stopped watching anything but c-span.
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[RethugAssKicker]

8. Its Kerrys own fault

.. Lets face it, He's mediocre at best and his team is the same. But we have no other choice. We can only hope that Kerry will finally pour the heat on Bush and keep it going through the election.

[Gato Moteado]

9. mediocre?

sure he wasn't my first choice, but compared to bush you think kerry's mediocre?

bush is an idiot. the guy can't form a regular sentence let alone string 2 or more together. you saw the footage of him in the classroom on 911.....he was waiting for someone to tell him what to do. he's an empty suit....a puppet. if kerry's mediocre, then what does that make bush?

the problem is the media is a propoganda tool for the right (watch "outfoxed") and the voting public is not very bright.

[RethugAssKicker]

14. Compared to Bush

Kerry is a genious. You misunderstand my point. The problem is that he's just not appealing enough. Unfortunately in America elections, its not the substance of your message, but the messenger himself.

[Gato Moteado]

16. i see your point....

but is bush more appealing than kerry? if so, to whom?

i contend that bush is only appealing to white trash, religious fascists, uneducated people and corporate criminals. if you think kerry is less appealing than the filthy, incompetent, corrupt bush administration then the corporate media has you just as fooled.

[irancontra]

10. yeah it's kerry's fault

for being a REAL person, a genuine war-hero, a fighter for america, and trying to be ethical in the sleaziest most low-set crud-fest that is the 2004 election. Aww Kerry is the one to blame because he doesn't reduce everything to a soundbyte & he actually responds to questions. It's his fault because he didn't make side deals with TW & GE, and because his best buddy is not Rupert. It's his fault cause he actually has a plan & is not willing to treat Americans like children.

He's mediocre at best?? WHy don't you list you're achievements buddy before insulting a man like Kerry who is taking on the hardest campaign ever & who has done incredibly well considering the odds & the people he's up against.

Stop talking out of your ass & be a bit supportive or go out and register people to vote.

[bigtree]

11. I disagree

This story is just getting legs with possibly more revelations to follow. Bush hasn't been exposed to a daily drip of accusers as Kerry was. Also the documentation refutes Bush's excuses as the documentation supported Kerry. No way should we unilaterally declare this over and Bush as unscathed. Wait and see. Bush's campaign has had to respond and I don't believe that anyone is interested in the crap that he has been presenting, warmed over, rejected proposals like privatization of SS, and health savings accounts. Anything that forces Bush to respond outside of his agenda serves to obscure any positive message from his camp, and forces him to hunker down into his poorly scripted defense of his presidency.

[Rambis]

12. It is really easy they only have one message

Vote Bush or be killed by TERA! It makes me sick! Stay the course, thousand points of light blah blah blah-

[bigtree]

13. Bush brought in new people yesterday and got rid of one

His campaign looks to be in danger of losing their pitiful 'bounce' from their late convention. I think they realize this and are scrambling to assemble a team that will bolster his weak, tired, flagging campaign

[chookie]

15. Were they ready for what was to come?

Since 2000, I have been asking, "Are we ready?" "Do we have a plan to use against them?"

I have recently come to the conclusion that no, we/they do not. They are NOT running against Rove. They never, or have poorly, anticipated him to be the adversary that he always has been. Sadly, in the interest of appearing to be "gentlemen" they are not calling Bush by the names that he deserves to be called by. Indeed, even honest discussion of Bush's record is decried as "hate speech", and we/they fall for it time and time and time again.

Clearly, it was foreseeable that this was going to be an electino to be won by the dirtiest fighter....

It's tactics that are going to win this election for Bush -- not his ideas, not his crazy plans. If people really knew what they were getting into, they would be repulsed by him; that is why they have to lie about EVERYTHING. While there may be a small minority who support a fascist America, the majority of Americans do not. Bush may well win, but he will NOT have popular support. Sooner or later, all the shit he has pulled is going to catch up with him -- mark my words. The best case scenario will be impeachment during his "second" term, as is the historic precedent for divisive presidents -- and it may be the sane Republicans who ultimately bring him down, as the Dems don't seem to have the guts. There is of course a worse case scenario -- that the shit he has pulled is going to catch up with you and me and our country first, in the form of troubling widespread economic hardship, a corrupt judicial system, and world war.

I sure hope the Dems realize that we are running against the fucking Nazis....

But maybe I am being pessimistic. But Kerry is playing it WAY too safe. It's time to inflame and inspire his side by REALLY putting up a FIGHT against the worst president in American history -- not try to appeal to "undecideds".